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are you smoking something ........... this thread as far as I can tell was about the 10 year celebration...... what is your post on about badpenny. How is zorg a cow god. Are you saying he has been working in hunted cow studios for 10 years ?

I dont know if it was "reported" or not, but from the first day of completions it has been brought up quite a few times that the loot from ICC is going to:

 

make rich richer

increase the gap of top players

only be available to a select few unless you get a lucky invite or manage to find a group of people to do it

 

Anyway, moving on from ICC, how about changes to the other ones?

 Point one  "make rich richer" ......... NO  cutting off icc and nerfing the loot makes the current gem holders richer.

"Increase the gap of top players"  NO cutting off icc and nerfing the loot makes the current gem holders strongest with longer times to catching them and yielding them more ep.

"only be available to a select few unless you get a lucky invite or manage to find a group of people to do it"

NO ....... same situation would occur to your last point even if the rewards were nerfed. I only see the benefits to the current holders no matter what way you look at it.

The horse has bolted, if these things were worrying you and all the other people in ICC on the first few days of you all doing it. The issues should have been raised then. I saw no big alarm bells thread. Now it just looks like some have gemmed up and gorged and aquired rakes of infernal flakes and now want the well to be locked up to slow others that follow.

ICC

4 great drops + relics (+ weekly cores and bag)

5 people

4-8 mins

 

These are the main things being run at end game. Right now ICC is way ahead in terms of reward for time. Sure it needs a bit more effort/tactics to do it well. But it is very profitable if you are lucky enough to be in a team that can happily grind there for hours.

 

Coming from one of the lucky ones who gets to run it most days I think there should be a reduction in what it gives out. I think ICC should be changed to 5 drops but defined instead of absolutes, and keep the flakes/horsey in there. At the same time, the weekly reward has been nerfed to the extreme, that needs a look at too.

 

Not only would that not over-saturate the large gem market with players grinding ICC it would also drive prices back up for those running RG/BT and give them a bit more coin for their efforts.

 

All that being said. I am happy for it to stay the same, and I will continue to benefit from ICC and build my gems

how long has it been opened...... and now a thread. The people who got ICC and grinded it made out like bandits so the only people that suffer are the late adopters with the nerfs. The people who grinded it are minted and sorted. Now lets nerf it for the people that follow   . How noble of you to be so concerned about them.

It is a situation of leave it as it is, the people who benefited ......... well ...... benefited and the late adopters are the ones who are back handed because they were late to the party.  So they should earn less because the people before now have their fill. Reminds me of all those times people called for nerfs as they were hardcore grinding solo dungeons as they were calling for nerfs...... who benefited from that again ..... hmmmmmm.

well done awies, I bet that feels like a weight off your shoulders and you saved all these lost souls who might be tempted by the devil and use this trick or are using it. Awies has saved your virtual soul.

So you essentially want the rich or people who spend ep on silly builds to have achievements. If things like this ever did come in, I think it would signal the end of eldevin days coming.

Get all her toys and break them tell her you thought it would be funny and cut up her clothes and say you are deleting them ................

5 months later......... Ice gets out of the mental home his parents put him in to get better

Just tell your sis you like your stuff and not to delete it. . Why would she do this

Lastly, I've mentioned this to some HCS staff previously, but I think taking the time to remove all accounts inactive for over 2 years under level 10 would aid in reducing data being retained on servers and help to a degree with as much burden being placed on them.... particularly given how many thousands of the low level junk gear are being held in BPs taking up more data on top of that.... just a thought I'd like to put out there.

Could not agree more with that, plus think of all the cool names that will be released, potentially, for other players.

We need a complete overhaul of the four gangs and REALISTIC STATS to represent them. All the inactive accounts from lvl 80 to lvl 1 are clogging gangs and the true representation and their realistic activity and standing.  Can we get all the inactive accounts beyond a certain time point removed from being added to figures.

Also zorg said years ago he would remove accounts after they reached a certain time frame from gangs because before they used to be deleted and now they can't be. Can we put them in some holding area and if they return they move back into the main rosters.

We need alternatives to vent gear for the less fortunate. The game is very unbalanced. So I vote warfare shop. PLUS STEVEN HAD PICS FOR THESE. = a quick add on.

Please try to understand .......... some people want to solo. Don't throw your toys out of the pram because you want to force others to do groups because you want to feel special.......... and the laws of averages are you will not be running with these people and probably have your own crew you would do dungeons with anyway and are comfortable with. But at least you stopped the others enjoying the game and now force them to stand around begging for groups while you happily chug along.

Also sdcricy, how many people have EIGHT LVL 45 alts to grind all those flakes. If anything you should be limited, not me, I am fine, you need to be reigned in. Like if you run the dungeon on 3 alts, after that on any alt it gives NO BONUSES ANYMORE OR FLAKES OR YOU CAN'T RUN THE QUEST if it is not first time or story related.

Also go run BT again and see the loot you get. Chest do not even drop regularly now or anything. What exactly do you want. Nothing to drop. Let people play how they want.

this is not the Eldevin I joined back in Beta or on release.

Now this point is a very vailid. When you really think about it, so much has changed from the grinding aspect, browser based game, story driven dungeons, exp, job exp. Grouping. Gold payouts, gold decline. Weapons such as sword giving sorc etc which lol and a bit of a gimmick if we are all honest. Shields being used for block and giving sorc. Rolls on weaps packing an insane punch to gems. Pvp changed, trappers atoll becoming a gathering area. Man so many things.

Everything all just went off the rails really, or were put on the rails if you so viewed it. The vision posted in the beginning of guilds and a medieval setting, to now mounts that fly around and other wacky things. It has turned more into a cartoon parody world. The vision then being changed to steam from always being focused on browser, I can only imagine a lot of updates were shelved for steam opening and we lost a lot of players who waited and waited and vanished. So I guess the devs are gambling and betting it pays off big. Who knows what is in store. But I would agree the game has changed a lot.

Edit in : and best of luck on your travels mongo.

repost from another thread

The loot boxes only contain reskins in most respects. You need to have an incentive for people to spend money on the game and buy the 20% ep bonus. This is the circle of life sometimes. People like ant buy the loot boxes open them and sell them on. The founders packs for example, would you of liked to find out founders packs back in the day got a change after release and could be grinded ??

What are in these boxes, junk in essence. Broomstick which is just a reskin of another broom stick and a few costumes. None are essential to play the game. I understand we all want everything to be free 100% of the time, but sometimes hcs need some route to make ep useful to buy some things. Depending on the items, my stance will change if it was giving paying players edges etc and every case will be different I am sure. Maybe they can re work the achievements to not include paying items........ but will the loot crate items sell then is the question, as they are so basic. I assume ant would not be a happy bunny.

But the ant dude and others who bought assuming these items were exclusive to paying etc, should get a refund, I 100% beleive, if they change them to game grinding. Only fair.  As stated every case will always need to looked at seperately at what comes up in the store. But maybe hcs really need money ???

The loot boxes only contain reskins in most respects. You need to have an incentive for people to spend money on the game and buy the 20% ep bonus. This is the circle of life sometimes. People like ant buy the loot boxes open them and sell them on. The founders packs for example, would you of liked to find out founders packs back in the day got a change after release and could be grinded ??

What are in these boxes, junk in essence. Broomstick which is just a reskin of another broom stick and a few costumes. None are essential to play the game. I understand we all want everything to be free 100% of the time, but sometimes hcs need some route to make ep useful to buy some things. Depending on the items, my stance will change if it was giving paying players edges etc and every case will be different I am sure. Maybe they can re work the achievements to not include paying items........ but will the loot crate items sell then is the question, as they are so basic. I assume ant would not be a happy bunny.

But the ant dude and others who bought assuming these items were exclusive to paying etc, should get a refund, I 100% beleive, if they change them to game grinding. Only fair.  As stated every case will always need to looked at seperately at what comes up in the store. But maybe hcs really need money ???

I am not seeking out the troll currently. I killed him in groups the few times I faced him, so I have 0 benefit and I am in essence an outsider perspective. But this all sounds more like not wanting to fix it and more like a select few and friends getting the drops. You know you all have crews so it stacks the odds more in your favor. For some of you it is not hard at all to find crews. Also if you arrived at this thing alone, according the what some are saying, you would be excluded as you have no chance to outmatch a group dps. you get more loot chances in this group. The top 3 groups make the grade for stuff............. sooooooooo pretty soon a few teams will have worked out for themselves they will group together well in advance and then repeat rinse repeat. Stalemate.

Remove the tagging option and don't let one person hog the thing and I guess do whatever the system is for plasma lord, I know    shudders haha as that is horrid also or do like world bosses everyone comes along who makes it in time and let faith decide who gets it, AND REVISIT THE SITUATION when steam is released and the pop increases and revenue increases and the staff team can come up with proper mechanics and finally solve the issues.