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[SirAdmiral]

Kinda dumb that I can only make progress on this in the ladder and bounty board. I'd probably be about done with the stupid thing if it would count regular PvP hits. Instead, I'm encouraged to prey on weaker people on the BB, because that makes sense. That's the one place it SHOULDN'T count progress, if anything.

 

Any good reason that it DOESN'T work the way it should?

[xxlooperxx]

It used to I believe. Resulted in a ton of random 100 stamina hits and people complained. So that's why it is like it is now, which I completely agree with

[cucullainn]

I to agree with the way it is. As I have just recently acquired mine.

00:01 29/Nov/2016 You have just been awarded a Bronze PvP Smasher medal!
For the OP to have joined the game the same time as I have. They should have acquired theirs, or be close to getting it.

Then again, if they have been playing as along as they've been registered. You would think they would be of a higher level? I don't understand how someone could be playing for 9 years, and not have accomplished more than level 260. Unless all they did was PVP and GVG and not have received this medal

Oh wait. They have only been playing for the last year. My bad

Edited by cucullainn, 16 January 2017 - 15:57.

[SirAdmiral]

Yep, took a break. Played from 07-11/12 and then not really again until last year-ish. My levels are like a rollercoaster, up-down-up-down-up-down...

 

Edit: It promoted PvP so it's good that it was removed? I don't understand how that's a good thing...?

 

I have it at the Silver level, btw.

 

 

Again, it just seems weird that the most balanced (+/-10) attacks don't count, but the less (+/-100) and least balanced (+/-3000) do. The bounty board was created for people who get butthurt about being attacked. It's basically a second Bounty Hunter or to a lesser extent, Ladder medal.

Edited by SirAdmiral, 16 January 2017 - 17:11.

[TxLxS]

Join ladder or bounty hunt people at higher levels it's not necessary preying on lower level people and even if you want to hit lower level people not really worth 100 bounty tickets plus it allows you to a get 10 ticks for price of one bounty and ladder allows you to get as many as you want without bounty..

[SirAdmiral]

What's the ladder?

[yotwehc]

Kinda dumb that I can only make progress on this in the ladder and bounty board. I'd probably be about done with the stupid thing if it would count regular PvP hits. Instead, I'm encouraged to prey on weaker people on the BB, because that makes sense. That's the one place it SHOULDN'T count progress, if anything.

 

Any good reason that it DOESN'T work the way it should?

Yeah it makes so much sense... normal pvp against players who don't pvp vs players on bounty board or ladder who are willing to pvp... the ones on the BB and ladder are the weaklings? really? lol.

 

I presume, you weren't around when the smasher medal was introduced. It was a disaster. normal pvp hits did count... sure, it was great for pvp as there were pages and pages of bounties but it was an unqualified disaster. HCS reversed course after stating they wouldn't the first several hours after implementation.

 

I do love your statement though.. weaker people on the bb... lol...

[Egami]

Any good reason that it DOESN'T work the way it should?

 

Not that I can think of.

[SirAdmiral]

Yeah it makes so much sense... normal pvp against players who don't pvp vs players on bounty board or ladder who are willing to pvp... the ones on the BB and ladder are the weaklings? really? lol.

 

I presume, you weren't around when the smasher medal was introduced. It was a disaster. normal pvp hits did count... sure, it was great for pvp as there were pages and pages of bounties but it was an unqualified disaster. HCS reversed course after stating they wouldn't the first several hours after implementation.

 

I do love your statement though.. weaker people on the bb... lol...

 

Was that an intentional misinterpretation on your part?

 

Edit:

 

What was so disastrous about it? Did people start having aneurysms? 

Edited by SirAdmiral, 17 January 2017 - 00:10.

[yotwehc]

Was that an intentional misinterpretation on your part?

 

Edit:

 

What was so disastrous about it? Did people start having aneurysms? 

Did I misinterpret? "I'm encouraged to prey on weaker people on the BB"

 

I'm impressed if you can take those "weaker people" on the BB. lol.

 

It was disastrous because  HCS reversed course soon after release. They were pretty adamant in the beginning to stay the course but I imagine the outcry was so huge that they had to change it. read the forum topic for it... it was flooded. I don't know how the idea got started but it was probably something that came from like minded folks thinking, you know what would be a great idea? a medal for smashing... yeah yeah! there would be very little outcry... it would be so great... lol. it was great indeed... but not for the community in general... just for those like minded folks who to this day cannot understand why HCS backtracked.

[SirAdmiral]

Did I misinterpret? "I'm encouraged to prey on weaker people on the BB"

 

I'm impressed if you can take those "weaker people" on the BB. lol.

 

It was disastrous because  HCS reversed course soon after release. They were pretty adamant in the beginning to stay the course but I imagine the outcry was so huge that they had to change it. read the forum topic for it... it was flooded. I don't know how the idea got started but it was probably something that came from like minded folks thinking, you know what would be a great idea? a medal for smashing... yeah yeah! there would be very little outcry... it would be so great... lol. it was great indeed... but not for the community in general... just for those like minded folks who to this day cannot understand why HCS backtracked.

 

So people had aneurysms, got it.

[yotwehc]

So people had aneurysms, got it.

Are you having one now ;-p

[SirAdmiral]

Are you having one now ;-p

Yes, 5 actually.

Edited by SirAdmiral, 17 January 2017 - 01:30.

[Belaric]

 

Any good reason that it DOESN'T work the way it should?

 

Not that I can think of.

Because on implementation and shortly after game numbers dropped like a stone.

 

I'm sure the devs have not forgotten that loss of income stream.

 

The devs killed the smasher medal in its full on mode because of, (in my opinion)  shall we say, over zealous indulgence in 100 stam hits in every available direction by those seeking the medal as fast as possible.

 

This upset players not used to being hit as often, or as hard as before. All the 'rules' for avoiding PvP hits went out of the window. Hiding gold etc. not relevant. Everyone in range got hit at 100 stam so a medal could be gained. If you were in range of multiple players who wanted their smasher medal? Unlucky.

 

I suspect support received a lot of messages.

 

The activity at the outset, and its effect upon player participation, was enough to make HCS quickly change direction.

 

*This is important to recall, without direct HCS confirmation or denial. HCS reacted very quickly because they saw that a mistake had been made, and it affected their business adversely. The assumption is that people abandoned the game and they (HCS) saw online numbers dropping in real time, so they reversed course. This assumption makes sense, but might not be true. Another narrative may apply. HCS would have to clarify.*

 

For whatever reason, the reversal came too late to save the players who had already left because of all the hits they had received, and their perception that the game going forward under those rules would be untenable for them. They were already gone.

 

Of course what did the change to the smasher medal do, but disillusion other players, who had loved the medal, and the activity it had brought, and who then abandoned the game in disgust after it was nerfed in their view.

 

A double blow to HCS and their player base, therefore income stream. Advertisers don't want to spend money on games that are poorly inhabited.

 

So game numbers dropped again.

 

Perhaps the smasher medal should have been run on a beta server?

[SirAdmiral]

Jeez, that's kinda sad actually. ):