Posted 06 August 2016 - 04:07
To expand on the thread (https://forums.hunte...e=1#entry964147) started by Luis, this is my attempt to break it down and get a more in-depth response.
Luis's thread pretty much descended into anarchy and vitriole, let's TRY to keep this one (and the others, regarding other mega-potions) civil please ?
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Posted 06 August 2016 - 04:32
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Posted 06 August 2016 - 15:59
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Posted 06 August 2016 - 19:07
I think they should all be increased in power, lmao.
I don't believe they're a win button. After all, I have tons of ladder tokens.
So, PvP out. And PvE, not too sure how useful, though I guess the balanced draft could go there. Better leveling pots than what the Ladder pots offer, but they could be used.
In a nutshell, these pots are "readily" available to all. Grant it, there is a "huge" sacrifice. Please note that "huge" is in quotes.
Posted 06 August 2016 - 22:29
My opinion is widely known, they need to be nerfed across the board.
(Of course many won't be willing to let go of their win buttons, so they won't be...)
Doom, I concur. The problem I see isn't about how the pots are gained, whether it be through GEs, Ladder play or Composing. It is how negatively effected the game is because of the triple and quadruple increased skill levels now available to a select few compared to what the standard levels are. Sure everyone has the potential to earn them but the reality is much different. I seriously believe Hoof has been so busy running the Company he doesn't know what's going on. Meanwhile Grim has been busy cranking up the skill levels like he's feeding goldfish - they will keep eating until they die. PvP is much more hyper sensitive to the discrepancies but it has a big impact on PvE as well. Now there is a group of players who rightly claim they worked hard to earn these Composed pots. Why should they give up the omnipotence? Ironically to play the Ladder it is almost a requirement. Global Event pots have only made the game focus on pot management. I'm in the consensus with others that the skills need to be nerfed way down, maxing out about 200-250. Those level 60 composers and Ladder token holders can be given some other skills, be it higher levels or something new, as long as the stat changing skill levels are left reasonable to play against all others and the game! Now that we've all had a taste of God-like stats pushing donation drives where the pots are also crazy would be a windfall.
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Posted 07 August 2016 - 04:26
Doom, I concur. The problem I see isn't about how the pots are gained, whether it be through GEs, Ladder play or Composing. It is how negatively effected the game is because of the triple and quadruple increased skill levels now available to a select few compared to what the standard levels are. Sure everyone has the potential to earn them but the reality is much different. I seriously believe Hoof has been so busy running the Company he doesn't know what's going on. Meanwhile Grim has been busy cranking up the skill levels like he's feeding goldfish - they will keep eating until they die. PvP is much more hyper sensitive to the discrepancies but it has a big impact on PvE as well. Now there is a group of players who rightly claim they worked hard to earn these Composed pots. Why should they give up the omnipotence? Ironically to play the Ladder it is almost a requirement. Global Event pots have only made the game focus on pot management. I'm in the consensus with others that the skills need to be nerfed way down, maxing out about 200-250. Those level 60 composers and Ladder token holders can be given some other skills, be it higher levels or something new, as long as the stat changing skill levels are left reasonable to play against all others and the game! Now that we've all had a taste of God-like stats pushing donation drives where the pots are also crazy would be a windfall.
TL:DR just scale them down proportionately... Composing will still be strong. etc...
Edited by EpicPiety, 07 August 2016 - 04:27.
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Posted 11 August 2016 - 16:11
I think they're fine as the are... 
Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:11
In my book, the pots from the ladder are not a really game breaking. Sure they give an advantage, but no where near what you get from composing/global pots.
I do have a Q though.... why is the options only about "being fine for PvE..." These pots are "earned" though playing something that is similar to PvP, so shouldn't the question be about these "being fine for PvP..."
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Posted 12 August 2016 - 10:26
I seriously believe Hoof has been so busy running the Company he doesn't know what's going on. Meanwhile Grim has been busy cranking up the skill levels like he's feeding goldfish - they will keep eating until they die.
Actually, these are discussed between Hoofmaster and I when designed so please don't try any divisive comments or play a blame game.
Posted 12 August 2016 - 14:43
Cow tipping? They do better on their feet than on their side trying to get up. lol
Posted 12 August 2016 - 18:19
Actually, these are discussed between Hoofmaster and I when designed so please don't try any divisive comments or play a blame game.
Out of pure curiosity when this was being discussed why was it thought to be viable or a good idea. Not bashing just trying to see both sides.
Posted 12 August 2016 - 18:33
How I think it comes to be: The cows make a "What would you like to see," thread and ask for input from the community.
Sooo, I think this is the admin's response to ideas put forth by the player base.
I have noticed that more often than not, potion levels suggested are on the high side. Higher and higher.
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