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[yotwehc]

So what you are saying yotwehc as you actually did quote that your bounties weren't touched for hours. So if someone had touched and finished them as don't see any there anymore. Is you got hit with a 100 stam and in return boarded them so they were hit 10 times on board which does more damage. So basically the person had just lost more xp than you did. Now maybe they 100 stammed you 10 times as you were on the board which would be different scenario, but if not justice would have been done.

All I am simply saying is there was coordination between attacker and and attackee (?) on the BB. Isn't that what all of this is about? Your making a big fuss about how the EOC'rs are doing this but no one cares when non-EOC'rs do the same exact thing. MY mention that the bounties weren't touched for hours is the benefit of being in a PVP guild. No one messes with those in the PVP guilds as either they are scared or not worth the mischief that comes with it. I could go on about Justice too but we're already in Siberia as far as the derail is concerned.

[datman67]

All I am simply saying is there was coordination between attacker and and attackee (?) on the BB. Isn't that what all of this is about? Your making a big fuss about how the EOC'rs are doing this but no one cares when non-EOC'rs do the same exact thing. MY mention that the bounties weren't touched for hours is the benefit of being in a PVP guild. No one messes with those in the PVP guilds as either they are scared or not worth the mischief that comes with it. I could go on about Justice too but we're already in Siberia as far as the derail is concerned.

No one currently messes with with pvp guilds because they have currently messed with no one. If they hit you and you say please no they will hit you again as is their code. Turn the other cheek and play on with the game, as 100 stam hit is their game, and they continue on to next player. As to scared oooh am so frightened to lose and gain levels lol. As too mischievous sorry Calista but guilty as charged lol.

[Calista]

 As too mischievous sorry Calista but guilty as charged lol.

*holds up her halo*    I plead the fifth!   

[Shadow19231]

People keep dancing around the real issue. Now, everyone please hush up and listen to what's really going on :

 

EOC players claim to want to relevel, but are apposed to making this exploit fixed. Why? Because they clearly do not want to level a second time, but merely want to abuse a bug. With that said, take it as what you will, but that is the sad reality of it. Thanks for your time

Edited by Shadow19231, 08 December 2013 - 07:03.

[sweetlou]

But from the bounty hunters side of things, I feel like I've given the impression that 'all' EOC delevelers are going too far with their 'demands'  That is not the case. For example, FFS, TED, and even LoFG haven't given me any drama over any bounty clears. And I've cleared more then 230 in the last few days, though I lost count the first day in. FFS and TED even went far enough to help keep me buffed up on the board and message me to make sure their members haven't been the issue. Thank you to those of you who are working with the community to keep all styles of play working.
It is really just 2 guilds that I have had issues with.  Nasty messages, multiple bio threats, bounties placed (in bulk lol), 100 stammed... and I'm not the only BH these 2 guilds are harassing. I won't name them so I'm not accused of negative attention. But it isn't hard to figure out who they are if you look at the board or read this topic.

You made many beautifully valid points. I wanted to point out also that the players who weren't making a stink have been losing MORE levels, faster. Ironically, they are also not ones that oppose some sort of closure to the exploit. Basically they will find another way to regain levels for their guild, even releveling through realms. I agree with Calista that you cannot paint every EOCer who wants to delevel with the same brushstroke. The ones who are making demands and looking for the easiest way are generally the ones who want the exploit to remain. Now the question remains how can the devs bring some balance back to the game?

[RED]

See, it's obvious you want the exploit because you think you're entitled from "I already did it." So why can't you relevel through realms again without the cheat? Would it take too much stam? Is it too hard?

I don`t have a problem releveling through the realm at all,,,Thing is we still gotta lose levels and you guys want to take the bounties and that is what this post is all about ...RIGHT.....So, what is gonna change, you want to 100 stam and delevel your enemies and 10 stam your enemies when you know they don`t care... 

[RED]

We have a bounty board supposedly to take xp from your attcker/enemy(whatever)>>>>>It seems that as long as the ones doing the easy bounties don`t get rebountied everything is fine. So, what is this all about anyway. If you take a bounty it`s always been up to the person that you hit 10 times to either rebounty or forget it. IF YOU WANT TO HIT PEOPLE ON THE BB, THERE IS A CHANCE THINGS WONT GO WELL FOR YOU.  RED 

[spons369]

Think this topic is sooo funny. Other players crying about this, even players that have guildies in there own guild doing it as well! There so many "not fair" things in this game for years and never have handle those either. I see no problem with some EOC players doing this though, everyone has the option. What do we need to do? Wait on HCS to make new content?!?!?

 

Is it bad for the game? Not really in my opinion, even better we have been creating way more activity with doing this. Bounty board whas almost dead, well the last months you could find PAGES of bountys to do. A bad thing? Not really right?

 

Players have send me thank you notes that they could work on there smasher medal without being trash talked or get counter bounty on them. Bad thing? Not really

 

Doing this cost us a lot. Losing levels has cost me like 500fsp, the potions i will use will cost me about 600fsp and buying current stam will cost me about 1500-2000fsp. Bad thing? Don't think so as the game need players to spend some money so the game can evolve and become better.

 

So all together, we have create lots of activity for FS with doing this which this game need a lot if you compare the current activity with the activity of years ago.

 

HCS, you can change this and bring activity even more down again, let the game die even a bit faster OR you can wake up, put a extra team member on making us new content like 10X faster then we currently getting content and this entire issue would never be here as we will be needing our stam and funds to keep up with content! Waisting your time on this issue is allready ridiculous enough. Focus on what you promis us to get it done on time would be way better!!

 

[RED]

I believe Spons just summed this whole thing up!!! Look at the activity and the money spent the last 30 days verses the last 6 mos.

[dah342]

People keep dancing around the real issue. Now, everyone please hush up and listen to what's really going on :

 

EOC players claim to want to relevel, but are apposed to making this exploit fixed. Why? Because they clearly do not want to level a second time, but merely want to abuse a bug. With that said, take it as what you will, but that is the sad reality of it. Thanks for your time

 

How in the world is this a bug? They aren't abusing anything, as both spons and bigred have just said, this is making the activity of some players and some guilds go through the roof. It keeps them busy, it keeps them buying FSP, and it helps them getting more knowledge and experience. Which in my case is something I really appreciate. 

Hearing  a level 1800 has gained theoretically +3000 levels means I can ask about the best buffs, the best stats, what to look for in  a creature, what to aim for in a hunt. 

You people that are bringing up the issue aren't thinking about the big picture. I can probably see where you are thinking. If a player from the top 5 guild can manage to bring in another 10 billion GXP, it's pushing your guild's rankings that much farther away from being in the top 5. 

Well oh well. I'm sorry, but the EOC'rs have earned that right by getting there. If HCS wants to take 2-4 weeks, if not longer to release another 25 levels, then they (EOC'rs) have a right to do something.

Wanting to help the guild, is no harm. What is wrong is how you guys bash on these people trying to do something. 

If you're getting butt hurt oh well. The Christmas Special is out, go buy yourself some FSP. See where that gets you. Stop being such a bunch jealous girls. 

This is no bug. This is a way to spend stamina, and this is a way to push guilds into more activity.

Heck, we have had about another 5 people come out of inactivity just to be entertained by this, to see what was going on.

So many people's activities are raising, heck, there is hardly a time when Spons isn't online. 

 

To be short, you guys just need to get a grip and start worrying about yourselves.

[bilops]

I believe Spons just summed this whole thing up!!! Look at the activity and the money spent the last 30 days verses the last 6 mos.

Christmas offer and event xp coming, I'm sure the current donations do not have much to do with de-leveling and re-leveling players!

 

 

My opinion is that if a player wants to lose levels, placing an option on upgrades:
drop 100 levels =50fsp
drop 250 levels =125fsp
drop 500 levels =250fsp
drop 1000 levels =500fsp

in exchange you will not be able to continue sitting on a champion, same if you want lose levels on BB you'll be teleported to to krul island and if you is losing levels on BB because u want releveling you will be penalized for exploit bounty hunter and pvp.

 

 

 

What really can not keep is pvp of way that is currently, many players pvp are retiring because of this system pvp and so far hcs did not nothing, i'm a pvp player old and I've thought about retire many times because of this joke pvp, free smasher, free bounty hunter medal, free smasher medal, it really makes us regress as players, i'm trying find new way to play because the pvp really is a joke!

Edited by bilops, 08 December 2013 - 18:31.

[lakjack1]

Christmas offer and event xp coming, I'm sure the current donations do not have much to do with de-leveling and re-leveling players!

 

 

My opinion is that if a player wants to lose levels, placing an option on upgrades:
drop 100 levels =50fsp
drop 250 levels =125fsp
drop 500 levels =250fsp
drop 1000 levels =500fsp

in exchange you will not be able to continue sitting on a champion, same if you want lose levels on BB you'll be teleported to to krul island and if you is losing levels on BB because u want releveling you will be penalized for exploit bounty hunter and pvp.

 

 

 

What really can not keep is pvp of way that is currently, many players pvp are retiring because of this system pvp and so far hcs did not nothing, i'm a pvp player old and I've thought about retire many times because of this joke pvp, free smasher, free bounty hunter medal, free smasher medal, it really makes us regress as players, i'm trying find new way to play because the pvp really is a joke!

Had already mentioned something similar and very fair for all earlier, but seems nobody that says they want changes really wants them as have seen no likes on  the posting which is only way will get notice from the team!

 

http://forums.hunted...=60000&p=826744

[gomezkilla]

I'd like to interject another point here.

 

At ALL levels we have PvPers hitting others, getting on the BB, and losing levels. Eventually, they will all level back up to their VL so they do not lose the ability to wear their favorite PvP setup. With them leveling up, most likely staying in their original leveling map, they gain extra XP that they would normally not get from each creature.

 

Now, why is this acceptable with everyone but the second an EOCer does it at a bigger scale, its an exploitation of the game that needs to be removed?

[RebornJedi]

because they are farming the same champion for hundreds of levels...

[aryann]

really no problems here...

#1 as i recall it was the pvp "CREW" that whined about the bounty being accepted and never being hit in 1st place now u are doing opposite and whineing that it shouldnt b posted unless a hits made lol...it goes back to old way guess what i do and guess who starts whining

 

#2 calista youve been bounty hunting long time now u know u can b countered for 10 stam clear thats how it is u dont like it use 100s .....if someones threatning u report it and if u find bio offensive report it....thats hcs job not yours

 

#3 hi louie howve u been?

[gomezkilla]

because they are farming the same champion for hundreds of levels...

So if they weren't hitting the a champion and hitting a common creature instead then it would be acceptable?

[wil72]

I'd like to interject another point here.

 

At ALL levels we have PvPers hitting others, getting on the BB, and losing levels. Eventually, they will all level back up to their VL so they do not lose the ability to wear their favorite PvP setup. With them leveling up, most likely staying in their original leveling map, they gain extra XP that they would normally not get from each creature.

 

Now, why is this acceptable with everyone but the second an EOCer does it at a bigger scale, its an exploitation of the game that needs to be removed?

 

because they are farming the same champion for hundreds of levels...

 

 

Also, those PvPers are losing levels on the BB as intended. Not getting themselves intentionally placed there, going naked and advertising free 100 stam hits without repercussion.

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

[RebornJedi]

So if they weren't hitting the a champion and hitting a common creature instead then it would be acceptable?

not if it was the same one for hundreds, even as little as a dozen levels.. you shouldn't be able to farm the same creature to gain 10+ levels.. that's just a ridiculous game mechanic.. 

[Mister Doom]

not if it was the same one for hundreds, even as little as a dozen levels.. you shouldn't be able to farm the same creature to gain 10+ levels.. that's just a ridiculous game mechanic.. 

 

My sentiments exactly, that's why I think the creature stat modifier based on your AL would be a perfect fix for this.

[Hoofmaster]

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