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Kito please explain to me the advantage from having more guild mates join an arena (Outside of guild tagged gear which i addressed)? Afaik none exist as it would make sense because arena is a solo activity.

ok, I will giving you explanation but in return you treating same and giving explanation too and not ignoring it please, I give respect and you give respect back

my english not good and I using translator for helping

because you OP, I will using your guild for example I writing here, it simple:

this only players from your guild who having around or more than 1000 arena wins

ArtziK, 2zina, PowerLegi, Tilley10, leos3000, SuOkWinter, shindrak

arena having 8 and 16 players who can joining

your guild having 7 members who having around 1000 arena wins and they having most own gear

Joining with all your own gear = bypass 25% rule

Joining with Guild Tagged gear = 25% rule applies

because you know your rules not existing in game I can only give theory like everyone else but I using logical thinking that everyone can easy see too and understanding

if we adding your 2 EP rules for 8 player arena:

it meaning 2 (25%) can joining with guild gear and 6 who having own gear can filling all 8 spots from same guild (100%)

if 16 player arena:

4 (25%) can joining with guild gear and 7 who having own gear can filling 11 spots of 16 from same guild (that around 70%)

that meaning for 8 player arena your guild can having 100% spots and for 16 player arena around 70%

this can leading to monopoly because it will increasing your guild chances very much (best example is before cooldown only 1 guild in game was having monopoly of epics, this everyone knowing and can asking admin)

but this is not worse what your 2 rules do, if you adding other top guilds who having many top arena players with own gear it becoming very difficult and hell for other guilds

there many worst case and one of worst case is this:

ffs, mom and ted joining and will having most and fighting each others for monopoly 

if we adding your 2 rules for 8 player arena with other big guilds ffs and ted too

it meaning 6 (75% from only 3 big guilds) can joining with guild gear and very many who having own gear can filling all 8 spots from same guild (100%)

if 16 player arena:

12 (75% from only 3 big guilds) can joining with guild gear and very many who having own gear can filling 4 spots of 16 from same guild (100%)

this examples I giving very simple and easy understanding if using little of brain and math for 10 year olds

I can saying truth and it will increasing activity but you need to understanding for whom it will increasing activity and this is why I keep asking epicpiety to answering because he knowing it will increasing actity for his guild (big guilds) and if you use logic then what happens to players in smal guilds whos chances will decreasing (because of this 2 rules)?

logic saying that when chance decreasing then high chance they will stopping 

if you still not undertanding or want to give excuse that arena is still solo or other excuses then this:

everyone in game knowing you can not doing bountys on your guild members but if wanting only increasing pvp activity then allowing guild members doing bountys on each other would increasing activity

this will increasing activity very much but at what price?

yes bounty board is solo activity but why do you think HCS make rule that same members can not doing bountys on eachother? yes, it is because of abuse

players can trying arguing (same argument with arena that you can giving friends outside guild the items to wear) I having friends outside guild that can doing my bounty, that true but because of this HCS rules (guild members can not doing bounty on same members and 25% arena rule) abuse becoming more difficult

we can doing extreme thing:

as much as I wanting seing removing pvp attack ranges I knowing it will bringing very high activity but is this really good for game and at what price?

everyone here knowing it will increasing pvp activity but it will benefiting one group and not all of comunity and making abuse more easy because of many things (eoc can hit level 1, stat difference, no pvpers .....)

question for everyone:

will you accepting if a idea will increase activity (for certain groups, not for comunity) but increases abuse very high?

yes or no?

for epicpiety:

if we adding your 2 EP rules for 8 player arena:

it meaning 2 (25%) can joining with guild gear and 6 who having own gear can filling all 8 spots from same guild (100%)

if 16 player arena:

4 (25%) can joining with guild gear and 7 who having own gear can filling 11 spots of 16 from same guild (that around 70%)

that meaning for 8 player arena your guild can having 100% spots and for 16 player arena around 70%

1) is simple thing what I writing above this true? yes or no, it very easy question that can saying yes or no with explanation

2) for who exact will your 2 rule increase activity, give details because I showing it will not increasing for comunity but certain (big groups) and with more players from same guild can joining then logic it meaning higher chance players of this guild can winning

3) with your 2 rule will it be possible for 1 guild to get all 8 arena spots? if yes then logic saying it will increase abuse

I taking long writing using translator helping with words because you saying you not understanding 90% of what I writing but picture postings of shindrak, biggrim and hoofmaster in other pots you and everyone should having no problem understanding

I have asking this 3 very easy questions that simple on purpose and willl waiting if you will ignorning them, only saying no and ignoring explanation or this time answering like I doing with yours with full explanation

NJ posting stuff from over 6 years ago. Didn't understand about 90% of it but irrelevant regardless. Also keep in mind there is a fresh HCS team with fresh idea's about modern gaming .

Arena has nothing to do with your guild aside from what i laid out. Bring out any point proving this and i'll join the conversation. If you have nothing to say point taken.

I knowing you understanding what I writing and pictures I posting of your guild mate, biggrim and hoofmaster quotes but you deciding in your head to not accepting it because shindrak, biggrim and hoofmaster having very good english better than me

thank you for showing again your character, you always doing it, it not mattering if it is logic or fact, you not caring, your guild creating many times forum for changing 25% rule and everytime biggrim saying no but you ignoring and making after some time same topic, even you getting into argument with hoofmaster after he making poll and telling you no, he explaining to you but you deciding ignoring again like always

you not wanting understanding that what good for your guild, it not meaning it good for comunity too

even after biggrim and hoofmaster will telling you again 25% rule will not changing for reason, you will ignoring because it your way or no way and this reason why continue posting here will be pointless

I will always supporting ideas that good for comunity but never only for certain group like this idea

all having good day

Well I know some players will say it will be open to abuse but if someone want to abuse they can just do it outside guild ... 

 

Arena is big part of the game !  give everyone chance to play smoothly without this restriction , its a game at the end and  Arena pretty much clear if someone wants to abuse they will get caught and what's the point of play a game without integrity !   This will boost Arena and the market pretty much ...

 

I hope HCs to rethink and open serious discussion about it ..

I will answer you with your own postings before you joining mirkwood guild

you was one of players who against changing 25% arena rule and using logic, you having very many postings and everyone can looking in forum for seing

I'm sure more players from biggest guilds will jump in and will have no time to join before tourneys start if you weren't active enough !

Not to mention how this will make a move in the market very well more players will buy gears and gold to forge and craft...

Result is More Activity and More donations for HCs and More updates to FS.

bro, I knowing 100% that you knowing what you writing not true because in other forums you posting you writing opposite of this. I thinking in last years all forums creating to changing or removing 25% arena rule is from only 1 guild calling minions of mirkwood and many players saying this is not game problem, this is minion of mirkwood problem and why should game changing because of 1 guild? everyone can going to forum and search it

you saying it bringing more activity but you only writing half truth, you not saying who it bringing more activity, the more activity will coming from those who have problem with 25% arena rule and that meaning it will bringing more activity for minions of mirkwood

I mean who is going to put that much effort to ask other players to join without gears or something , Not worth it and those players will lose their integrity for FS community ...

please not talking about integrity, there players who are knowing in community for losing integrity because they doing cheating, scripting, hypocricy, lying, trolling for getting ill satisfaction from others misery ............. or players / guilds knowing these players wrong (cheating, scripting, hypocricy, lying, trolling for getting ill satisfaction from others misery) and still accepting

worst example is santa who everyone in comunity who was titan hunting knowing is worst scripters, he doing many times cheating and worst time was he alone hunting against over 40 titan hunters from different guilds, big guilds was ffs, ted, wal and many others and santa got epic drop doing more than 50% kills alone against over 40 hunters lol, 1 player doing more kills than over 40 players together lol, everyone knowing this because fs box and shout box was crazy with postings about cheater, you remember? this was around time where you and your friend eviltrace was titan hunting and I hunting against you times

if you saying this old then I having recent one, everyone knowing about AH bug but is everyone knowing that there was not 1 AH bug but 2 bugs? first one I not needing explaning it giving you free fsps but second one was giving you free items, I will not saying players name but he your guild member and he selling cheap epics to my friends, after he getting banning by HCS and it coming out that he was abusing bug to getting free items my friends afraid they would getting banning too because they buying from him, they not knowing he getting these epics with bug

if you asking why I telling this story it because you saying Not worth it and those players will lose their integrity for FS community  but that not true and you having proof in your guild

after hcs banning this player more than one month he sudenly coming back and how did he lose his integrity? very short he becoming leader in your guild

prove what I saying is truth is HCS (hoofmaster) and many in your guild who honest want saying truth

I giving 2 storys about your guild to showing you that argumenting with players losing integrity of fs comunity meaning nothing, it can happening in other guilds too, some guilds accepting or even rewarding these bad players, integrity is free to interpretation of players (I not knowing if I writing this in good english language but meaning is clear) and that reason why there need be HCS rules

Defender medal is actually extremely difficult and takes alot of time and investment. Also almost nothing would change in regards to arena medal difficulty. 

that not true and you knowing it, getting defender medal is very easy, I 100% sure you was getting messages from players who asking if your guild wanting improving defender medal because they send messages to many of the top guilds

some guilds accepting and getting 2-3 hours from no defender medal to highest diamond medal and only needing little stamina to do it, I will not writing how because I not supporting that way

The 25% Guild mate arena rule should be changed to the following.

 

Joining with all your own gear = bypass 25% rule

Joining with Guild Tagged gear = 25% rule applies

like others telling you years ago in many forum postings it is not FS problem it is minion of mirkwood problem, why need game changing for 1 guild if others not having problem and ok with them?

with your bypass 25% rule if own gear you can getting in theory all your guild members taking all arena spots, if this is not abuse then your interpretation of abuse is not normal

what happen if big guilds like ffs and ted do same too then it becoming arena only for mom, ffs and ted and very bad for all guilds in comunity

EpicPiety, I even posting picture of your now leader shindrak who telling you that your changing 25% rule will be benefiting for big guilds but very bad for all other smal guilds in comunity

HCS will never accepting it because this very easy abuse and they already saying no to you many times

everyone in game can looking in forum for proof and I will always saying no to abuse

I will leaving high adept learner, animal magnetism, conserve and librarian to HCS deciding because it will having for future interests of HCS

if HCS really deciding going with this high levels then for me logic that HCS will suffering donations and to return they will be forcing increasing high levels in donation chests but again I saying I will leaving this deciding to HCS

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

 

this is danger and not logic why you bringing distil more than 150 and brewing master more than 300 and showing little understanding of game, I will explaining a little because distil and brewing master making problems that is in game more problems, reading here:

1] many players saying how for years how bad big skills have destroying pvp, conficlt gvg, leveling too boring because very easy with crazy high level skills and still you doing this very big mistake and ignoring problems?

2] I knowing bm 500 was removing by admin because I making picture proof in it admin saying why he removing bm 500 and inventor II 500, can I posting it?

3] why admin want returning bm 500 that is saying bad for game back to game? that not logic

4] sorry for saying but need saying truth, it showing you little understanding value of skills, I giving 2 examples

• look up at picture: distil 250 and bm 500 only cost 750 token (375 token each) but global booster 2000 cost 5000 token, gb cost 13,3 time more than distil or bm, this not logic, it should be opposite because bm 500 and distil 250 having a lot more value than gb 2000
• second example I showing with picture too and explaining text

• Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

   

  Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

  Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

  Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

  Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

  Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

  Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

  fury 200, berserk 200, dc 200, ew 200, wither 200, sa 200 cost here 750 token, that too expensive because it will costing only 50k gold (for buff enhancer) and only 90 stamina for getting same fury 200, berserk 200, dc 200, ew 200, wither 200, sa 200. is 50k gold and 90 stamina worth 750 token? if adding only 10k gold for buying distil 50 you can buffing level 201, it then higher than potion that costing 750 token.

• you are judging by skill level not by value of skill, go comparing this 2 skills: ew 1000 potion cost 2400 gold in ah and how much you thinking will cost treasure hunter with same skill level 1000? 2400 gold too? no, it will never reaching this high level because need judging by value of skill

5] we wanting making game better not worse and it knowing for years players screaming about crazy high skills very bad for game, distil will increasing crazy high skill levels more and bm will making longer duration of crazy high levels, this like increasing level and duration of torture

delete bm and distil for good future of game and please not saying we will trying and seeing like you doing with crazy high composing, pvp and gvg have becoming joke because of it

there no excuse for bringing things back that you knowing is bad for game and hoping it will be good, it not logic

other token potions you can doing but bm and distil need deleting and better please bring hoofmaster, he knowing and understanding how skills working and having admin info and knowing more than us about it 

I will saying yes for everything that make game better and no that making game worse

guild leader chat is not showing here any more - only white page

this error for weeks, all leaders and guild founder having white page

I asking many and they saying they not having problem, only my guild having error with white page in leader chat

please fixing it, thanks