sweetlou

Servers are working perfectly well I'm afraid. Could this be on your end?

Sorry Grim, it just isn't so. It comes and goes but appears your system is under attack periodically. And check this thread: http://forums.hunted...017#entry825396

Threatening not to donate never has made any difference. It is a last ditch attempt when no other arguments work.

Without VL and the ability to regain levels the second time a bit easier than the first PvP'rs will drive a great many away from the game and the ones that stay will all eventually be back at level one .. VL/releveling balances the playing field so that PvP'rs cant just run rampant on folks that don't enjoy that aspect of the game...

So now your reasoning is that 'PvPers' made us exploit releveling? Please. You guys want to relevel to stay #1 on the XP ladder and players that level-only have nothing else to do with their stam once they've reached EOC. So really the blame is on yourselves. Stop pointing fingers. Players should still be able to relevel, just do it by not exploiting the BB and hiding on a Champ. Go EARN that gxp again. There should be no win buttons! The uber pots have made the game easy enough.

The VL's usefullness has run it's course. Time to lose it. Combined with teleporting players to the Mountain Path Coliseum when 0d on the BB will simplify and fix the exploit. No one deserves any 'right' to a level they had attained at some point. That player has lost that level through whatever means. If they've been 'punished' on the BB and 0d this is a way to punish the offender more, something players have been after for a long time

@luis they intended us to play the game how we wanted to. Whether it be Delevel and Relevel on a champion or whatever else we feel like. But there are players out there that wanna dictate what others can and cant do, so sadly doing what we want isn't really a reality anymore. Prime example of this right now is this thread. Also not every De-leveler threatens people to not to 10 stamina clear anyways what does that even matter?

I look at this argument being about the game's integrity, something that needs to be revisited from time to time. Without integrity this game would fold quickly. If you want to continue seeing the game become a joke, like promising(and even advertising) free stomper and bountys so that you can be deleveled, then go ahead and argue that you want to do what you want to do, like anarchy. I think there is a reason free RPs from GvGs are prohibited and so should this farce. And no, not everyone deleveling threatens players. The ones that don't actually lose many more levels because they aren't cheap. They will pay the poster regardless of 10 stam clears or 100s and be happy to lose the xp, regardless of being 0d out. I'll say it again: I don't care how many times players level and relevel, just don't exploit the game to do it. If these players went and sat on an SE and lost intentionally they could lose as many levels as they wanted for FREE. But that takes work, same as running through each level again instead of sitting on a champ. So, the leveling-only players should be able to grind out as many 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 combos as they want, just don't use an exploit to do it AND don't turn other parts of the game like the BB into a joke!

What people are forgetting/in denial about is that it IS an exploit. Players, many of these delevelers, are sitting on a champion at the level they started deleveling at and saying I want, nay demand, to be deleveled. In the process some, not all, are telling players come and get rewards for bountying and smashing. Please explain to me how it's different from saying we wont fight back in a GvG so you can win RPs? Again, I have no problem with players deleveling. There should even be a medal for it. But I do think there should be some detriment to it so as it isn't just a simple 'win' button to relevel. They need to go through the realms and properly relevel, not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 with AM and globals. They should even gain more gxp, no problem there either. That's not my argument. My argument is that the curent process makes a joke of the BB and the smasher medal. If you're going to go ahead and do that, sacrificing yourself to gain more gxp, then you should have to relevel all over again. There is a reason there is a penalty for subleveling. There should be a penalty for making a mockery of the game to gain more gxp. The players can level insatiably until there heart is content. The cows will still cause players to use more stam(ie spend $$) and the deleveler/releveler will have to EARN that gxp all over again!

 

Come on. Make the game at least slightly challenging and not always about the path of least resistance.

I actually don't have a problem with ppl losing xp. It's really the manner in which they do it, by saying spend 100 stams on me or else. It's a threat!!! As I know the game rules it is unacceptable. Go die fighting an SE. You will also lose xp. Btw getting 10 stam cleared on the BB does a pretty good job taking xp from you with just 10 stams. The players demanding and threatening aren't happy because they pay for others to post them and they don't think they're getting their money's worth. So let them rot on the BB.

 

There are some great proposals how to deter this mockery of the game. Anytime a player is zeroed on the BB they should be teleported to the Mountain Path Coliseum. Just like in Clash of the Titans!! (That was Stangs idea and one I love.) There are many more out there. Post them!

Sounds like HCS didn't cave to the DoS exhortationist. Now would be nice to see Zorg's stam magic...

I think not showing the Loyalty and Guild Loyalty medals makes sense - maybe also the Global Event medals.

How about adding a toggle switch for titans? I just hate thinking there's important news, only to see the very anti-climatic normal posts about a titan release or kill. Also, the news posts that need to be scrolled till the next day are also cumbersome. The whole howepage could use a facelift.

the big question will there be enough people joining this because there are plenty of people who are scared of losing exp/gold?
 
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the more rewarding the more people

You answered your own question of doubt. Please don't make any rewards that'll be obsolete quickly like those of the Ladder. The ladder gear is essentially worthless. The rewards need to be valuable enough that players will risk losing xp. Kind of like Prestige, only Prestige is too weak. The higher the +% of xp, the more players would participate gaining it.

As part of the reward, just allow players to gain XP!! It's experience. The opponent is potentially much more difficult than a game mob. The possibilities to do this well are endless. The hardcore "I won't attack another player" because of xyz moral reasons will probably never get converted, but the more appealing the rewards the more participants. Let's see some old-fashioned game development.

I like the idea!

 

A few thoughts:

 

- xp loss(and maybe gain) must be included. No fakes.

 

- No deflect!

 

- there must be rooms according to level. No way can a low level compete against a high level.

 

- only buffs you can buff on yourself should apply.

 

- I like the idea of a short amount of time that you MUST participate - 10, 20, 30 mins, whatever.

 

- I'd also like to see attacks every 2 mins like the bounty board.

 

- No bounties from attacks in the Coliseum allowed.

 

- Rewards would be tricky. I'd like to see pots, gear and gold like the arena.

 

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head...

Non-PvP gamers in a PvP game is what doesn't make sense, I think... Besides the fact FS players can now BUY PvP protection, not enough emphasis has been put into making players PvP by the devs -- EVER!!! It is the same fear that had the devs hesitant to cap buying the +1% upgrade at EOC years ago. It's a fear of diminishing revenue! Now only the devs can know that players spend much more buying stam then they did buying the +1% upgrade, just like players will continue playing even if they are forced to PvP. And yes players buy stam to PvP, even donating!!


Two.

Don't even risk it,say NOTHING. I'm so tired of being micro-managed to protect an overly sensitive player about what I can or can't say in a PM. I will defend any relic our guild is protecting through PvP. Nobody has said I can't PvP. I am not threatening anyone. I am reacting to harassment of our guild just like I know I can lose 5 levels from any attack. I will be accountable and responsible for my actions. Just because some players CHOOSE not to accept PvP is part of the game, it shouldn't cause me to have to play differently. Maybe the perpetrators should take less defended relics. In fact I believe if you have opted out of PvP you should be prevented from taking relics. Go play in a shell!!!

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I don't care how many issues the game has, if the game is inoperable we can all say goodbye.

Congrats on the nuptuals to the happy couple! There've been others married meeting through the game as well.