Thanks, I understood Melons post just fine. I even said that some buffs could be tweaked a bit to balance them out between themselves. Only needing one setup to win suggests the stats on setups available need to be varied a bit more as stat increasing buffs only compound an issue that is already there.
do you mind explaining in DETAIL what you mean? maybe with an EXAMPLE & a possible Sollution?
I think once you start talking about it in detail you will realize that it is a skill issue !!!
for EXAMPLE: if I & my opponent use the SAME PvP setup (same forge / craft) with the only exception that I use OP pots & he / she uses only castable buffs then his / her chances to win are almost NONE !!! EVENTHOUGH we are using the same PvP setup => thus further proving it is a SKILL ISSUE !!!
it has ALWAYS been a "SKILL - ISSUE", if you remember at the "early stage of the game" when people rushed to level in order to get castable 175 buffs !!! EVERYONE back then (regardless of being a PvPer or NON-PvPer would tell you that the skill level matters a LOT !!!
Maybe you didn't understand what I was saying. It was about the players who feel castable buffs should be able to compete with composing buffs. Not about buffs being an issue themselves.
castable buffs hardly stand a chance against OP Composing as castable buffs hardly stand a chance against EPIC Pots !!!
that is the main point of this thread => It's about time to balance out those overpowered pots in PvP.
I fail to see how being required to match another players efforts to beat them is an issue.
please let's not start talking about "efforts" to simply justify anything regardless of the "effects" it causes !!!
if you wanna talk about EFFORTS then what about the PvP Efforts????
what about the YEARS of PvP Efforts, the resources (FSPs, Gold, Stamina, lost XP, lost Levels, Time, .....) they put BEFORE OP Composing was released & **** it up for them???
I have put a LOT more "effort" into PvP than into Composing, PvP has cost me X times more than Composing & I know many PvPers were it applies too !!!
the "efforts" PvPers have put over the years hardly mattered AFTER OP Composing !!!
how do you think these PvPers felt after engaging OP Composed players in PvP & to find out that their years of PvP efforts hardly matter & they hardly stand a chance?
many PvPers went complaining into the forum (incl me) but unfortunately we know what happened if you posted any negativity about OP Composing
some either quit the game, left PvP or just like me started to level up Composing in order to be able to compete in PvP !!!
there are many things to add to the PvP efforts that the Composing efforts can not even come close to BUT like I said before let's not start talking about "efforts" here because you will lose the "fight" before it even starts .....
when years of PvP "efforts" pale in comparison to the Composing "efforts" in relation to PvP (PvP Ladder, GvG, ......) then something has to be wrong !!!
& finally: acknowledging ones "efforts (Composing efforts) while disregarding the others "efforts" (years of PvP efforts) is just wrong / ..... !!!
the only honest arguement I heard so far to keep OP Composing was: I have put a lot of effort into Composing so it should stay !!!
BUT even that only honest arguement does not hold a candle when PvPers talk about their years of PvP efforts !!!
afterall this is about PvP !!!
This is PvP
@hoof: you do not have to listen to anything I or anyone says, since you are an admin & have access to see things "behind the scenes", you can observe how players use OP composing almost as a "WIN - button" on the (PvP Ladder, BB, GvG, relic battles) & "wiping out" any players who are not using OP composing themselves !!! access player logs, see for yourself the frag amount some players have (millions of frags to create TONS of EPIC OP Composing skills), the person you should trust the most should be yourself, trust what you see / observe
I really hope you will do this to see for yourself what is really going on & if you do then I am confident you will "unfortunately" know how OP Composing has affected PvP (PvP Ladder, GvG, .....)