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#181 Belaric

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 22:15

My bad  :ph34r:

 

Apparently I forgot to check the actual community tier before it allocated the tiered rewards. The system for completing the events recently got changed so it was easier to manage the events (and hence run them more frequently). I'll get it fixed for the next one, but everyone can keep the rewards they received this time since it was our mistake :)

Thank you Hoof.

 

This resolves the question about the reward at the end. I hope you and the team can still get together and try to ensure clear communication with the players in future, and avoid things like adding rewards or time after an event has started or changing tier targets after an event has started. Or, if you do, that you provide a clear rationale for your actions so people do not feel hard done by/ picked upon.

 

I really think these kinds of missteps can add up to a lot of player frustration that could so easily be avoided by sticking to initial stated terms. Not just in Globals, but in all aspects of the game, including and especially any changes to game mechanics - as those cause the most angst generally.

 

Thanks again.


Edited by Belaric, 31 March 2014 - 22:17.

Good-bye and hello, as always.


#182 wil72

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 22:15

Well my brother, you know what I think about you... others will take that statement the wrong way... unless they check my ally list, lmao ,oP

 

In this case, I believe you "overestimate"... I do get the argument. My take is simply different and doesn't apply to my personal case, but here goes:

 

Anyone who found the incentive to use more than 5k stam to get the one bonus chest for the top 100, meaning an additional 20k stam "at least"... They are now incentivized to sit back and just "see" what HCS does.

 

This is a big negative. The "prize" for what the community didn't deserve only makes it so that I take the chance on just doing the min and getting a much bigger prize. Why spend more stam?

 

Game theory. Short and sweet.

 

Mate, alas, Hoof has killed my retort. :P

 

Cheers.

 

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#183 vamunre

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 22:17

I am so sad I missed out on top 100 by only a few kills only do me being at work.



#184 wil72

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 22:24

My bad  :ph34r:

 

Apparently I forgot to check the actual community tier before it allocated the tiered rewards. The system for completing the events recently got changed so it was easier to manage the events (and hence run them more frequently). I'll get it fixed for the next one, but everyone can keep the rewards they received this time since it was our mistake :)

 

Should we believe you, or is this statement yet another cunning plan to throw us off in the future? :D

 

Cheers.

 

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Edited by wil72, 31 March 2014 - 22:45.


#185 lapdragon

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 22:39

i just want to say thank you!  thank you for everyone that did hard work..thank you for rewarding top 100 thank you for the BUG, and thank you for allowing the rewards to stay as they are....I am happy!  I also put in my hard work...spent much FSP on stam not only for the Community but also myself to stay in the top 100.  I just want to say THANK you!  I believe kindness, in any form shud be thanked.  the chests are a fine reward~



#186 JBKing89

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 22:46

Thanks Hoof.

 

Next time, just blame it on Zorg :P



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Posted 31 March 2014 - 23:51

Cheers Hoof :) I am going to sound selfish here!!! lol

 

Can I ask a quick question or suggestion? Every now and then...instead of chests as a reward, can we have a chest full of fsps? most of the time this is what we are all after? I am not asking for loads but will keep up the interest in the game!   :D Cheers!!!! 



#188 Tastria

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 00:59

Now I feel guilty!  After moaning and groaning about giving the community undeserved  chests, I find out it was human/tech error!

    BUT it does show that the cows investigate things that pop up in the forums, and that they're able to admit when a mistake is made.  

     Just shows we shouldn't jump the conclusions :(



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 01:37

Did the event get extended? Did I miss something? Qualified for gold within the last hour because there seemed to be no way to hit crystal or ruby so stopped at 3k, though I guess I should have gone for ruby anyways...

 

I am very disappointed that players are receiving a reward that the community did NOT qualify for, and that this issue has not yet been resolved.

 

Besides that, thank you for the event!

I did 4k kills, just of the same reason..

I looked over the world chat many times last hours, to see if comunity was willing to go for top tier.

I did not want to use the extra time to get 1000 more kills, if it was no way we would get top tier!! Thats because it would take me some time, that I rather could use on something else.

 

I dont mind ppl doing mistakes, but feel fooled when I just follow up on what I could get!

Would easy have done 5k kills if that was it, BUT as I said, didnt casue I had important things to do in RL.

1000 clicks on the button take a little time.

 

Well, I have been considering all sides of game lately, and this might get me on the wrong side of what it should be....

 

Happy for the event, NOT happy with the result



#190 clitsy007

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 01:59

I did 4k kills, just of the same reason..

I looked over the world chat many times last hours, to see if comunity was willing to go for top tier.

I did not want to use the extra time to get 1000 more kills, if it was no way we would get top tier!! Thats because it would take me some time, that I rather could use on something else.

 

I dont mind ppl doing mistakes, but feel fooled when I just follow up on what I could get!

Would easy have done 5k kills if that was it, BUT as I said, didnt casue I had important things to do in RL.

1000 clicks on the button take a little time.

 

Well, I have been considering all sides of game lately, and this might get me on the wrong side of what it should be....

 

Happy for the event, NOT happy with the result

+1 might as well offer another 100 fsp for top 100 next event and change it to top 50 after the event is over. Hate this switcharoo crap ><

 

Don't mean I hate the reward tho :)

Just no more "error's" after the event. when everyone's done throwing there desired stamina into it expecting nothing more then the community qualified for ;)


Edited by clitsy007, 01 April 2014 - 04:12.


#191 bloody18

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:08

Thanks HCS :) Dont listen to the Kimmy Gibblers of FS !  Do the 5K to qualify individually ..and by golly good things might happen ! Woot ! Thanks HCS!  o-FULL-HOUSE-KIMMY-GIBLER-facebook.jpgYES.png


Edited by bloody18, 01 April 2014 - 02:18.


#192 Uncle Beg

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:20

Thank you HCS for the extra rewards.

We appreciate all the fun you have giving us.

That's why I have been around with friends for 5+ years.

 

As for players that have negative feedback and/or not happy about the reward at the end of the event, contact me and I'll refund your stamina (1 gold per stamina).



#193 bigchaos

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:24

Thank you HCS for the global event. I wanted to say Kudos in making these events random and keep the fs community guessing. I am also very thankful  for letting the community keep the error in the chests rewards.  :D  Thank you to all in fs community for giving what you have in stamina to help in the global event as well.  :D



#194 Crzy

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 03:00

Cheers Hoof :) I am going to sound selfish here!!! lol

 

Can I ask a quick question or suggestion? Every now and then...instead of chests as a reward, can we have a chest full of fsps? most of the time this is what we are all after? I am not asking for loads but will keep up the interest in the game!   :D Cheers!!!! 

 

lol Now there's an interesting idea to keep participation up...add that there will be a Special BONUS chest for top 100. Don't tell what it is and just let it be random. Could be 10k gold, could be 5 fsp, or it could be a special item.


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#195 BraveKath

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 04:56

To everyone that just watches the community progress and has stam and time available and does the bare minimum waiting to see what everyone else does .....

 

that's a self -defeating cycle, as if everyone who would like the best chest possible jumped in and at least did the 5k we'd be ahead and then if folks did a bit extra, again we'd all be ahead, and then EVERYONE sees that we're progressing.

Analogy: I've never been the greatest athlete, but I sure know what makes a team work and what doesn't.  If I stand around waiting to see if the 3rd baseman is going to get the ball before I move and she's waiting on me, well -- we don't win unless the other team is even more apathetic.

Mama Kath


Edited by BraveKath, 01 April 2014 - 06:21.


#196 paingwin

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 04:58

Was pleased to get my silver Top 100 medal.........Was DAMN pleased to get the total prize even though we didn't reach ruby. Thank cows, but if you want you can have 3 of mine back and give me the gold tier ones that we earned. The fact i got my silver medal was plenty enough reward for me. Plus i only killed to help the community. Thanks for the event, I actually missed these in my time away........



#197 paingwin

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 05:02

To everyone that just watches the community progress and has stam and time available and does the bare minimum waiting to see what everyone else does .....

 

that's a self -defeating cycle, as if everyone who would like the best chest possible jumped in and at least did the 5k we'd be ahead and then if folks did a bit extra, again we'd all be ahead.  

Analogy: I've never been the greatest athlete, but I sure know what makes a team work and what doesn't.  If I stand around waiting to see if the 3rd baseman is going to get the ball before I move and she's waiting on me, well -- we don't win unless the other team is even more apathetic.

Mama Kath

You know before i took my break from the game momma i had a thought about globals that i am sure people would HATE. But, I have never been one to care about people disliking my ideas lol. Maybe during global events the cows could make it to where the only way you could use stam was to kill globals lol. No PvP, no regular hunting, no titans, just killing global beasties was available lol. oh bring on the flames.......it's ok i gots my fireproof undies on LOLOLOLOL



#198 BraveKath

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 05:33

You know before i took my break from the game momma i had a thought about globals that i am sure people would HATE. But, I have never been one to care about people disliking my ideas lol. Maybe during global events the cows could make it to where the only way you could use stam was to kill globals lol. No PvP, no regular hunting, no titans, just killing global beasties was available lol. oh bring on the flames.......it's ok i gots my fireproof undies on LOLOLOLOL

 

Oh my - yeah be careful the angry townsfolks don't pull out their pitchforks and chase you down :)   LOL!



#199 Pardoux

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 05:55

You know before i took my break from the game momma i had a thought about globals that i am sure people would HATE. But, I have never been one to care about people disliking my ideas lol. Maybe during global events the cows could make it to where the only way you could use stam was to kill globals lol. No PvP, no regular hunting, no titans, just killing global beasties was available lol. oh bring on the flames.......it's ok i gots my fireproof undies on LOLOLOLOL

 

My idea was :-

 

Just before announcing an event, the game takes a snapshot of every active (say 30 days) players current stamina.

 

Then, the tiers are calculated in relation to that captured figure - that way, players with massive stamina banks need to get more kills / tier than those with minimal stamina banks. Yes, I know that this "penalises" those players (like myself, I may add) who have upgraded their stamina considerably (albeit not by some folks standards) but this "penalty" would JUST apply to global events, no other facet of the game - so, in all other areas of the game, the stamina banks would still be a big asset.

 

So, to extend the idea ...

 

Let's assume a player has 100k (for ease of calculation) current stamina just before an event is launched. The event would work on a "sacrifice" of 50% stamina to get the best awards.

 

For Bronze Tier the player would need to expend 10% of their base stamina killing critters (so, 10K)

For Silver Tier the player would need to expend 20% of their base stamina killing critters (so 20K)

For Gold Tier the player would need to expend 30% of their base stamina killing critters (so 30K)

For Crystal Tier the player would need to expend 40% of their base stamina killing critters (so 40K)

For Ruby Tier the player would need to expend 50% of their base stamina killing critters (so 50K)

 

Obviously, a few factors would need to be considered :-

 

1. The actual kill counts would need calculating

2. MUCH bigger global doublers would need to be made available beforehand

3. Absolutely NO warning/indication (or regularity) of an event be given so as to prevent players dumping stam just beforehand.

 

I'm sure this idea could be further "fleshed out" :)

 

(also has the flame retardant clothing on .... )


Edited by Pardoux, 01 April 2014 - 05:56.

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#200 paingwin

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:01

My idea was :-

 

Just before announcing an event, the game takes a snapshot of every active (say 30 days) players current stamina.

 

Then, the tiers are calculated in relation to that captured figure - that way, players with massive stamina banks need to get more kills / tier than those with minimal stamina banks. Yes, I know that this "penalises" those players (like myself, I may add) who have upgraded their stamina considerably (albeit not by some folks standards) but this "penalty" would JUST apply to global events, no other facet of the game - so, in all other areas of the game, the stamina banks would still be a big asset.

 

So, to extend the idea ...

 

Let's assume a player has 100k (for ease of calculation) current stamina just before an event is launched. The event would work on a "sacrifice" of 50% stamina to get the best awards.

 

For Bronze Tier the player would need to expend 10% of their base stamina killing critters (so, 10K)

For Silver Tier the player would need to expend 20% of their base stamina killing critters (so 20K)

For Gold Tier the player would need to expend 30% of their base stamina killing critters (so 30K)

For Crystal Tier the player would need to expend 40% of their base stamina killing critters (so 40K)

For Ruby Tier the player would need to expend 50% of their base stamina killing critters (so 50K)

 

Obviously, a few factors would need to be considered :-

 

1. The actual kill counts would need calculating

2. MUCH bigger global doublers would need to be made available beforehand

3. Absolutely NO warning/indication (or regularity) of an event be given so as to prevent players dumping stam just beforehand.

 

I'm sure this idea could be further "fleshed out" :)

 

(also has the flame retardant clothing on .... )

i actually like this idea. Before my time away from the game i always put max stam into the globals. While others with the same amount of stam as me or more put in the minimum and grabbed the same rewards. I just think that the global events need to be based on effort put in and not just the few making it for the many.




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