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[shindrak]

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Got through the thread today and here are the changes I've made. Changes are in bold.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Make FI 1200 , we already have FI1000 in AH for 24k gold  or reduce the price to 200

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

Please no , this will kill the market specially Arena shop.

BM high level should be really rare it will change the market big time for most of game pots , player will just need 1 pot of other buffs  instead of 2 or 3 during their leveling or pvp ladder or SE hunt....  

there is BM500 coming from donator chest  that is enough

and Bm300 from Arena shop next option we dont need to kill this 

 

Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome.

 

~ Grim

 

Edited by shindrak, 14 September 2021 - 15:59.

[Undjuvion]

Shin is prob right about this BM500, BG!

[Maehdros]

Tweak ew. Ep suggested 800 which works and doesn't break bazaar 1k.


Add pride 250 or 300 to Alchemist Pot. ( since distil was removed )



Change brew to 400. Not epic, but still very handy. Tokens will be used and arena while effected will still be useful.

Maybe tweak the specific stat boosting pots ( shield wall defensive aura, armor boost layered armor) to 300? Below composed and eggs, but still worth using to a degree. But improve duration too please.



Cheers!


~Maeh

Edited by Maehdros, 14 September 2021 - 16:05.

[EpicPiety]

 

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Got through the thread today and here are the changes I've made. Changes are in bold.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Make FI 1200 , we already have FI1000 in AH for 24k gold  or reduce the price to 200

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

Please no , this will kill the market specially Arena shop.

BM high level should be really rare it will change the market big time for most of game pots , player will just need 1 pot of other buffs  instead of 2 or 3 during their leveling or pvp ladder or SE hunt....  

there is BM500 coming from donator chest  that is enough

and Bm300 from Arena shop next option we dont need to kill this 

 

Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome.

 

~ Grim

 

 

Frankly the problem with arena is much bigger. Not adding BM500 is just temporary, there should be other demanded things in arena aside from BM.

 

Hoping for an arena rework/overhaul sometime soon, off topic but i hope cows put this on their next Roadmap

Edited by EpicPiety, 14 September 2021 - 16:09.

[DrSerigala]

BM 500 for 500 tokens just completely make arena token not profitable anymore, unless you want to makeover arena token shop too.

[shindrak]

BM500 will affect whole market not just arena just wait and see

 

just like when Inventor II  500 added 

[BadPenny]

BM 500 for 500 tokens just completely make arena token not profitable anymore, unless you want to makeover arena token shop too.

No disrespect intended, but not all of us play the arena, and even those of us that do for the occasional DQ don't have many tokens to spend.... Everybody has Allegiance Tokens, though...

And as everything in the Loyalty shop is Bound, exactly what competition is there?
 

[Roach]

starting to look good 

maybe distil 100 could be put in - or something like that 

[Ouiounon]

No disrespect intended, but not all of us play the arena, and even those of us that do for the occasional DQ don't have many tokens to spend.... Everybody has Allegiance Tokens, though...

And as everything in the Loyalty shop is Bound, exactly what competition is there?
 

 

You're missing the point. A lot of the reason why people try different aspects of the game is to get access to rewards that aren't available in other parts of the game. That's like saying I should be able to buy super elite drops with loyalty tokens because I'm not a fan of hunting them myself 

 

The Brewing Master 300 pot is one of the only consistent arena rewards that sell for decent fsp and thus some arena plays can generate a small profit. If a higher level BM potion was made pretty easily available to a lot of people, then the demand for other potions like the BM300 pot would decrease drastically.

[Artzik]

much better indeed, just Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m makes no need for this, or add it to arena atleast, not here and Arterial Strike Level :  1500 Duration : 120m to make hunting interesting for brainiacks and give them option for diffirent type of hunt. like shindrak showed lvl 1000 is not enough in this

[Roach]

I would like to point out that some of us have stacks of tokens to spend... so it will take a long time for these changes to balance out 

[DrSerigala]

No disrespect intended, but not all of us play the arena, and even those of us that do for the occasional DQ don't have many tokens to spend.... Everybody has Allegiance Tokens, though...
And as everything in the Loyalty shop is Bound, exactly what competition is there?

Just because you and most of other player rarely play arena is not a reason to "nerf" Arena.
Arena is one of the many aspect of this game, it is the job of game developer to make every aspect of the game fun and rewarding. BM 500 for 500 tokens will not make arena less fun, but it will make arena less rewarding since the demand of its best potion will be a lot lower.

Edited by DrSerigala, 14 September 2021 - 16:52.

[BadPenny]

You're missing the point. A lot of the reason why people try different aspects of the game is to get access to rewards that aren't available in other parts of the game. That's like saying I should be able to buy super elite drops with loyalty tokens because I'm not a fan of hunting them myself 

 

The Brewing Master 300 pot is one of the only consistent arena rewards that sell for decent fsp and thus some arena plays can generate a small profit. If a higher level BM potion was made pretty easily available to a lot of people, then the demand for other potions like the BM300 pot would decrease drastically.

 

 

Just because you and most of other player rarely play arena is not a reason to "nerf" Arena.

Arena is one of the many aspect of this game, it is the job of game developer to make every aspect of the game fun and rewarding. BM 500 for 500 tokens will not make arena less fun, but it will make arena less rewarding since the demand of its best potion will be a lot lower.

 

 

So, Player A, who doesn't play arena, and also has very few FSP cuz they can't/don't donate, must do without because another option cuts into the Arena hero's profits?  Why shouldn't there be other options for high level potions other than buying them from somebody else?  

I'm sorry, I just don't understand why only the richest should matter (in this case Arena pros)
and everybody else should just put up and shut up..... Just seems like selfishness to me...
 

But I'm an old woman with old school values, I suppose you guys know best....
I'll be sure NOT to buy anything from you in the AH though...  I have my pride.


 

Edited by BadPenny, 14 September 2021 - 16:56.

[EpicPiety]

Just because you and most of other player rarely play arena is not a reason to "nerf" Arena.
Arena is one of the many aspect of this game, it is the job of game developer to make every aspect of the game fun and rewarding. BM 500 for 500 tokens will not make arena less fun, but it will make arena less rewarding since the demand of its best potion will be a lot lower.

What if BM500 went from 500 tokens to 1000 tokens? 

[Bujon]

300m length potions AND brewmaster 500?? Really?

[joseff1000]

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 400 Loyalty 200  --  OK

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250   -- OK

Librarian 400

 

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 500 -----  600

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m    ---- lvl 450 duration 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m   ---- lvl 450 duration 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m ----  lvl 250 duration 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m ---- at least lvl 1200 duration 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m  ----  lvl 400 duration 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m  ----  lvl 300 duration 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500 -----  300

 

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m  ----  lvl 1100 Duration 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m ---- OK

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  500 ----  300

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m ---- at least level 225 duration 120m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m ---- at least level 225 duration 120m

  

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500 --- 300

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m ---- lvl  350 duration 120m

Shield Wall Level : 250 Duration : 120m ----- At least level 550 duration 120m, there is antarius egg for 1/2 fsp(level 500 Shield wall)

 

 

Sorcerous Scales. Loyalty:  500 ---- 300

 

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m -  lvl 400 duration 120m,there is lvl 350 in AH for 1 fsp

Armor Boost Level : 250 Duration : 120m -  lvl 350 duration 120m, there is lvl 300 in AH for 2 fsp.

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  1000 --- ok

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   2000  --- ok

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750 ---- 550

 

Adept Learner Level : 600 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000 ---- 650

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 550 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500 --- 300

 

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m ---- lvl 350 duration 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 750 --- 600

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000. ---- OK

Global Booster 2000

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.  ---- OK

Global Booster 3000

Edited by joseff1000, 14 September 2021 - 17:09.

[Aboalarab]

The BMrewing Master seems will break the Arena potion , that should be removed like Distil. I likes the Adept Learner, Librarian and Converse 1000,at the same time if u guya keep them at level 1000 i gueaa the buffs in chests should be increased

[Bujon]

Maybe one for a separate thread, and obviously players have their own take on the game, but why the need or benefit of having 3000/5000 doubler, 500 brew master? Pro's?

Edited by Bujon, 14 September 2021 - 17:18.

[Bujon]

BM500 breaks ladder

[EpicPiety]

BM500 breaks ladder

Ladder is actually broken regardless of BM tbh, you can easily stay buffed with just bm200 egg. Coupled with pride it's about 12h duration which is actually more ideal than what bm300/500 offer as far as timing rebuffs go.

I've been constantly buffed for about 2 months now.