Great work Toreth, you put a lot of thought into this and it shows. I feel like this is a great idea to help encourage activity which is always a plus. It would make all epics relatively useful in other ways besides stam gain. I can think of applications to Arena, GvG, Relics battles, PvP and basically all the parts of what make FS what it is.

It would also probably drive the price up since demand would be higher. Which in turn would make titan (or whatever else you do to get epics) hunting worth something again so hopefully the stam used would be outweighed by the FSP gained. I also think some consistency in a stat formula would be amazing. That way you could kind of predict what pieces of gear you'd need to make stronger sets.

Usually it's hard to affect positive change for all players, but something like this could only help FS. In order for this to work though I imagine that all the formulas for existing gear would need to be changed to the updated version. I don't think it would be as effective if it was just everything moving forward.

I fully support this and look forward to a positive response from the devs. Thanks for listening. 

BigGrim, on 12 Oct 2021 - 07:01, said:

I want to preface this with while I understand the hesitation of some people in the creation of these potions, I still do believe that if you're going to use a word like "loyalty" for an in game currency, than whatever that currency is should be the same-if-not-better that the "P2W" currency.  I also don't think that the induction of some of these skills will break the game, but I digress.  My comments below will be in GREEN.

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 550 > 650 Duration : 120m
Find Item Level 1250 : Duration : 120m

I'll consider Find Item. Not entirely sold on Conserve needing the minor crank though. 

Fair, i do think con 650 won't cause any problems especially at the level suggested.

I think this should be 700 which is a massive decrease from the original proposal, but it sounds like 650 is already on the chopping block, so I'll agree that 650 is not game breaking and won't affect anything.

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  500 > 750
 
Adept Learner Level : 600 > 700 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 600 > 650 Duration : 120m

This encroachs on the Easter Global, which is successful due to being a once a year event. Don't want to harm that.

The main draw to easter global would be the PvP potion and OK1000 as this is one of the main ways to achieve this.

My reasoning for this is identical.  I would like AL to be at least 800 and Librarian to be at least 800, but understand the likelihood of that happening is slim to nil, so I'll agree with AL 700, but would still like to see Librarian 800.

On a poll you can't explain your reasoning, on the forums you can. Much more worth from less feedback, yet constructive.

Yes, you can by providing an explanation on the survey in a given field.  Plus, more people will fill out a survey than write out a post on the forum.  I made a quick sample survey of what it could look like and I'm happy to do the whole thing if that's how it gets done.  A survey also provides an unbiased look into opinions where vocal vs. non-vocal does not matter.  I think many more people would appriciate the anonymity.

Edit: I was able to attach

Hello Everyone,

 

It's a surprise to no one that arena is dated and needs some help.

 

I come forth with a simple and easy change to help arena overall.

 

The 25% Guild mate arena rule should be changed to the following.

 

Joining with all your own gear = bypass 25% rule

Joining with Guild Tagged gear = 25% rule applies

 

Arena is a solo activity, if you are joining an arena with your own personal gear it has nothing to do with your guild mates. If you are joining with guild tagged gear then it makes sense for the 25% rule to apply to them.

 

The only thing I can possibly see people saying would be "collusion", but let's think about this realistically. Being in the same guild has nothing to do with that. With our access to communication in Realtime 24/7 across various platforms such as discord etc where many unique people are connected, this does not really apply.

I think this is a fine change. I've done very minimal Arena compared to others, but I don't really see an issue.  Hopefully it would promote some gear sales in the AH as well.

Feedback is welcome. However, the discussion has lead to these POSITIVE changes and we're not reversing them. Feedback can continue to help with positive changes. 

 

~ Grim

Noted That is what I thought.  I just wanted to make sure players knew they could still make suggestions.  Thank you.

No, feedback was taken into consideration and resulted in these changes. The feedback made good sense. It will not be reverting back.

 

~ Grim

Does that mean the discussion is ended?  Just curious since at the end of the changes post you mention "Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome." 

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Got through the thread today and here are the changes I've made. Changes are in bold.

 

The suggestions I have are as follows and will be in RED TEXT

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

Yes

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 400 Loyalty 200

Yes

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

Yes

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

Yes

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

Yes

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 500

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Seems fine

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

I like it

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

Sure

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  500

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m

Sure

  

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Shield Wall Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Sure

 

 

Sorcerous Scales. Loyalty:  500

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Armor Boost Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Yes

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  1000

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

Thank you lord

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   2000

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

Yes please, and thank you

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

Adept Learner Level : 600 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 Duration : 120m

I think Adept Learner for this potion should be increased to 800 (which is a compromise from the original) and I think Librarian should be 800 as well, which is another compromise.

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 550 Duration : 120m

I still think this should be Animal Magnetism 500, but 450 is okay.  Conserve should be 850 which is right in the middle of the original proposal and I think is a fair trade off.

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

It's not surprising that Distil 250 was removed with all the vocal people, but I can understand.

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 750

Global Booster 1000

Yes

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000.

Global Booster 2000

Yes

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 3000

Yes

 

 

Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome.

 

~ Grim

 

 

I feel that we are getting to a good place and compromising with the loyalty potion propositions.  I do appreciate all the feedback, and all I ask is that other players read this and try to compromise as well.  I think we can get to a solid place that will benefit the game as a whole.

 

Okay another telling off...

 

I repeat

 

Okay that's me told off! lol

 

The following seem okay and suitable, all other potion proposals then a big NO from me, you will break the game.

 

How will this break the game?  That term is being used SO often, and no one can explain to me how.  What so many people are overlooking is that this part of the game has been untouched for years.  Loyal players AND donors should have the opportunity to use their tokens for something.  These potions are that opportunity.  Another part of this that players overlook is that there needs to be income coming in so that HCS can actually make the changes they want to.  The best way to increase income is to incentivize donations.  Make it appealing to donate and support the game.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 440 Loyalty 100

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.

 

Changes: 

 

Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

Increase to Doubler 2000 maintain 200 token cost

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 440 Loyalty 100

Increase to Conserve 500 maintain 100 token cost

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

Increase to Adept Learner and Librarian 500 increase to 350 token cost

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

Sure

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

Sure

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Increase buffs to level 250 and increase token cost to 1000

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Increase Find Item to 500, QF to 250, and QH to 250 and increase token cost to 750

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

I guess this is okay, but I don't think it works with Conserve

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

Increase to level 250 but also add Epic Craft 250 and increase token cost to 300

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Seems fine to me

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

Absolutely, yes!

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

Absolutely, yes! But maybe decrease the token cost to like 750 since doubler 3000 is 500 tokens.

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

Yes and yes!

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Yup, love it!

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

Distil 250 seems to be the most contested buff.  I think it should stay, but maybe have the cost increased to 1500 tokens

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

Yes, but decrease token cost to 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

Yes, but decrease token cost to 1250

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

Yes, but decrease token cost to 2000

 

We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.

 

~ The Fallen Sword Team

 

HCS: you REALLY need to rethink this - WIN buttons are not a good thing. Also - if players can get the best potions available for tokens... Why would they ever donate?

I don't see this as a "Win" button at all.  There are probably two main purposes of this update / FS in general : Fun and to generate revenue.  Games also need money to improve which is what we all want for Fallen Sword.

There are also many other ways to play FS that do not involve leveling which I'm guessing is what you are thinking of.  Will these potions help with leveling, absolutely, but I know that SOME players really don't like leveling because of how painful it can get, and this alleviates that.  I think a "Win" button would need to affect titan hunting, arena'ing, pvp'ing, composing, auction house'ing, SE hunting and anything else I missed that is included in this game we all love.   This update also will encourage players to donate more because there is now more of a reason TO donate.

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.

 

Existing Potions:

 

This is what exists at the moment.

 

Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10.

Adept Learner 100

Librarian 100

Animal Magnetism 100

Doubler 50

 

Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10.

Fury 100

Berserk 100

Enchant Weapon 100

Enchanted Armor 100

 

Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50.

Conserve 180

 

Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50.

Adept Learner 180

 

Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100.

Sacrifice 200

 

Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150.

Doubler 1200

 

Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500.

Unbreakable 200

 

Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750.

Light Foot 1250

 

 

Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25.

Global Booster 50

 

Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50.

Global Booster 100

 

Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100.

Global Booster 150

 

Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150.

Global Booster 200

 

Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450.

Global Booster 500

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200.

Global Booster 750 

 

 

Changes: 

 

Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 440 Loyalty 100

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

 

 

We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.

 

~ The Fallen Sword Team

 

Honestly, I love these changes! It gives new players/veterans incentive to spend and we all know that money makes this game go around.  People who choose to spend money to support the game should be rewarded and these rewards are fitting.

For those who think Distil 250 is not a good idea, I'm trying to understand why? Yes, we'll be able to push potions high(er), but why is that bad for the game?  I feel like players enjoy feeling strong and able to check their stats out and compare.

Yes, many of the chest potions will be not as powerful, but I imagine the Devs have thought about that and will adjust the donation chest awards.

So it's a hard YES from me and I feel this update is long overdue.  Thank you BG and the rest of HCS for your continued work.

 

Hello everyone!

 

Today we would like to share with you all the current roadmap for Jul - Oct 2021!

 

 

Please note that everything is subject to change. The next roadmap will be released in September.

 

~ Fallen Sword Team

 

So happy with this! Communication is key to winning the loyalty of your player base   It's also good to know that HCS does road maps now

HI there everyone.

 

Just removed a bunch of posts that are obviously not in the spirit of the topic. 

 

Carry on!

 

~ Grim

Thank you BG, we appriciate it

How about excluding any banned players from the lists ? - that makes it more .. honest ?

Yup I'm okay with that. We can actually eliminate the inactive piece entirely.  I made some edits.  What do you think now?

Active

PointyHair - Continued work on Fallen Sword helper

Cucubaubau - For being one of the kindest players in game

Boatsnhos - For being the OG of the >1,000,000 stam bank

Undjuvion - For always being positive and helpful in global chat

shindrak - For being one of the, if not the most, well-rounded FS player

Hello Fallen Sword!

It's been some time since a the most influential player(s) vote has been held, so I think it's time to bring it back.  Fallen Sword has been with us for years and has helped many of us cope with the struggles of real life.  There has been all sorts of players that have affected positive (sometimes negative) change to our community.  This is your opportunity to vote.  I think it makes the most since to keep it to one category: current active players that have been influential in Fallen Sword.  Rules below.  If you feel like I need to add anything else, please let me know and I will make the changes.  Thanks and lets bring it back!

* Up to Five (5) votes

* Player votes have to have been active within the last year

* Terminated or suspended players don't count

* You cannot vote for yourself

* A reason for your choice must be provided or your vote(s) won't be counted

* Please follow the format provided below to ensure that your vote can be tallied

Active 

- Player 1 name - Player 1 reason

- Player 2 name - Player 2 reason

- Player 3 name - Player 3 reason

- Player 4 name - Player 4 reason

- Player 5 name - Player 5 reason

He was - but guess his fix wasn't a permanent one

Yeah :/ Seems like it's good and busted this time around.  Hopefully they can get it sorted.

Hoof is on the case ...

Is he though? I understand that this is not a great weekend for this to happen, but to leave a game broken for 3-5 days is terrible.  You don't really see many other games where the devs just kind of decide not to fix the issue.  Also, Happy Easter!

Already fixed a few hours ago.

 

~ Grim

Still seems unplayable