Posted 21 June 2013 - 16:51
My main hope is that this will help make Legendary Events properly viable again. I'd like to be able justify regular LEs again.
I was hoping to see the Springtime Forest return this year, too bad it is summertime now! Wait.. did I just say too bad it is summer? 
Posted 21 June 2013 - 17:26
I was hoping to see the Springtime Forest return this year, too bad it is summertime now! Wait.. did I just say too bad it is summer?
We have had no spring here ... mother nature decided to skip it this year and jump from ice cold to hot.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 20:17
Can we get a Top100 list for Composing
sadly it would have to be named who killed the most rats list
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 20:20
sadly it would have to be named who killed the most rats list
Like the Kill Streak one is any different? They need to add a SE Killer + Titan Killer list.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 22:04
What about breaking Epics?
They got rid of that whole idea. I think it's because nobody would bother breaking down an epic (I assume the prices would rise rapidly) just to obtain a potion that wouldn't be of 'epic' standard (Light foot for example, the maximum level being 500)
Posted 21 June 2013 - 22:04
Also I may have missed this whilst reading through but is there a planned date or time when the potion making will become available?
Posted 21 June 2013 - 22:09
They got rid of that whole idea. I think it's because nobody would bother breaking down an epic (I assume the prices would rise rapidly) just to obtain a potion that wouldn't be of 'epic' standard (Light foot for example, the maximum level being 500)
Raising the price would be the point...
It's easier to come by an epic than it has ever been before. I thought the point of an epic, aside from the great stats and all, would be it's hard to come by and / or expensive. Either you work for it (invent or hunt titans) or buy it (and pay full price). If composing is going to be an item sink, why not use it to keep the market for epics sharp as well?
How HCS 'rewards' breaking epics is a different story. There are many good ways: Break an epic and get x of every rarity, be able to make special pots with epic fragments, ...
Posted 21 June 2013 - 22:26
Raising the price would be the point...
It's easier to come by an epic than it has ever been before. I thought the point of an epic, aside from the great stats and all, would be it's hard to come by and / or expensive. Either you work for it (invent or hunt titans) or buy it (and pay full price). If composing is going to be an item sink, why not use it to keep the market for epics sharp as well?
How HCS 'rewards' breaking epics is a different story. There are many good ways: Break an epic and get x of every rarity, be able to make special pots with epic fragments, ...
I agree with the raising prices of epics although I think HCS had not intended for the potions to be overpowered (yet anyway). Maybe epic decomposing will be implemented in the future, who knows.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 22:32
I agree with the raising prices of epics although I think HCS had not intended for the potions to be overpowered (yet anyway). Maybe epic decomposing will be implemented in the future, who knows.
I hope not and I hope they realise not everyone is rich enought to do so.
I mean, dump an expensive epic to get fragments to create a single potion seems SO not worth it
Posted 21 June 2013 - 22:43
They got rid of that whole idea. I think it's because nobody would bother breaking down an epic (I assume the prices would rise rapidly) just to obtain a potion that wouldn't be of 'epic' standard (Light foot for example, the maximum level being 500)
The composing thing does not raise prices on all items.
It merely creates a (flexible) minimum price on items.
For example, an item that was worth 100 FSP will still be worth 100 FSP now that composing is here. And an item that was worth 1,000 gold will now be worth 20,000 gold.
No player would even be thinking about buying an item that is worth 100 FSP to break it down into fragments when he can also just buy a much cheaper item.
The existence of composing just raises the prices on very cheap items to a level that players are willing to pay for fragments. It does not affect the price of already expensive items in any way.
Most epics are worth quite a lot (100+ FSP), and people will probably not break those down if epics could be broken down.
The only things that might have a reasonably low price that makes breaking down a viable option are the quest epic weapons, the Inferno Hammer and the Steamwork Cuirass, but those are still quite expensive compared to crystalline, SE and LE items.
If epics would be included into the composing system then there would either be a problem of supply because most epics are hard to obtain (compared to other items). There would also be a problem with the price because they are fairly expensive (compared to other items) and that would mean the highest level potions would only be available to the richest players.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 02:59
I notice that the community is almost to 150,000. That seems like a reasonable number to me, I was almost positive that there would have been more by now. But the cost of level 1 common items 
I may go back and kill rats, get common items, and work on the guilds vermin award at the same time....
Posted 22 June 2013 - 11:21
I know you prob dont want to put a time stamp on the next part of composing but maybe just a rough estimate please 
Posted 22 June 2013 - 11:28
I know you prob dont want to put a time stamp on the next part of composing but maybe just a rough estimate please
Can guarantee the response, if any, will be "when it's ready" 
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 11:33
lol yeah figure they may do a few events first to give some crystal shards them LE shards then they will bring out the potions.
Posted 22 June 2013 - 11:58
there will be some obscenely high potions lengths out there. I'll be delighted to be proved wrong.
I forgot to mention that the maximum duration of a potion will be 300 minutes. So there won't be any insanely long lasting potions.
The base duration of the potion would be 30 minutes. Each additional 30 minutes duration (max 300 minutes) would require the same amount of Fragments again.
I'm going to have to see what actually happens when the potions manufacturing begins in earnest. I foresee a new profession: Item farmers. Which may make the AH a little unwieldy, for the short term, anyway.
Of course there will be people who will farm items to sell them to people who want to make potions.
It will probably quite the same as plant farmers for current potion makers. Except that only a few creatures drop the right plants while nearly all creatures drop useful items. So item farming can also be done alongside levelling; whereas plant farming and levelling can't be done at the same time.
Item farming will be a nice way for lower level players without much money to be able to get some extra gold/FSP.
Their previously useless (but plentiful) drops will now be worth a few thousand gold. During a hunt these players can make an extra FSP or two just from selling the drops.
And the nice part is that (contrary to plant farmers) these players don't have to stop levelling because nearly every creature drops items.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 12:20
I forgot to mention that the maximum duration of a potion will be 300 minutes. So there won't be any insanely long lasting potions.
In all the discussion here, I missed that little detail. Appreciate you sifting the chaff for that little grain of wheat I still am not altogether comfortable with composing, but now it seems much more reasonable.
Posted 22 June 2013 - 14:46
Can guarantee the response, if any, will be "when it's ready"
i certainly hope they do not do that..they have created a nice buzz to the game with this composing..the longer it takes to implement potion making..the more the buzz will wear off..game just got a nice shot in the arm, dont waste it , by taking too long to implement the rest of composing...hopefully potion making comes out really really soon..i am scared tho..took many months just to get the first part done (fragments)....dont tease us...tell us when potion making will become available..
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