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#1 BigGrim

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:11

Hi there everyone.
 
Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.
 
Existing Potions:
 
This is what exists at the moment.
 
Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10.
Adept Learner 100
Librarian 100
Animal Magnetism 100
Doubler 50
 
Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10.
Fury 100
Berserk 100
Enchant Weapon 100
Enchanted Armor 100
 
Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50.
Conserve 180
 
Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50.
Adept Learner 180
 
Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100.
Sacrifice 200
 
Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150.
Doubler 1200
 
Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500.
Unbreakable 200
 
Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750.
Light Foot 1250
 
 
Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25.
Global Booster 50
 
Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50.
Global Booster 100
 
Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100.
Global Booster 150
 
Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150.
Global Booster 200
 
Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450.
Global Booster 500
 
Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200.
Global Booster 1500 
 
 
Changes: 
 
Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.
 
Change Potion of Intensity to:
Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200
 
 
Change Auspice of Ancients to:
Conserve 440 Loyalty 100
 
 
Change Scholars Draft to:
Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250
Librarian 400
 
Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.
 
 
Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.
 
 
New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
 
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000
 
 
We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.
 
~ The Fallen Sword Team


#2 Emperor Sidd

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:16

Thank you for bringing this up for feedback before they are implemented!



#3 EpicPiety

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:21

Are these going to be bound?



#4 Corrupted

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:21

I like the buffs but some of these might need to be tuned on Allegiance Token cost I think?


Edited by Corrupted, 08 September 2021 - 17:22.


#5 Airborne12

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:25

great ideas


great ideas



#6 Undjuvion

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:27

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 

 

 

750 tokens is madness for these two, i'd expect no less than 50k tokens, maybe 75k, that said you can leave them like that and no leveler need ever donate again :D

 

edit: buying all gift boxes and celeb chests for 1 fsp :D


Edited by Undjuvion, 08 September 2021 - 17:30.


#7 bjkills

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:27

Why do we need AL and Conserve 1000? It’s already easy enough to level in this game. And please no distil 250

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#8 tlthomasjr

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:31

Change Potion of Intensity to: Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200 this is epic potion level - too high
 
 
Change Auspice of Ancients to: Conserve 440 Loyalty 100 nearly epic lvl - too high for only 100 cost
 
 
Change Scholars Draft to: Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250
Librarian 400
 
Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.
 
 
Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.
 
 
New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
 
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m doubler 3k the same cost as a UB200? should be way more expensive
 
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000 same, i am sure people with a ton of stamina need this, but compared to much less powerful potions, it is way too cheap
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m ridiculously overpowered and way too cheap comparatively 
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m  same comment as for al 1k 
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m should cost his much each
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m same
 
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000

Change Potion of Intensity to: Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200 this is epic potion level - too high
 
 
Change Auspice of Ancients to: Conserve 440 Loyalty 100 nearly epic lvl - too high for only 100 cost
 
 
Change Scholars Draft to: Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250
Librarian 400
 
Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.
 
 
Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.
 
 
New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
 
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m doubler 3k the same cost as a UB200? should be way more expensive
 
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000 same, i am sure people with a ton of stamina need this, but compared to much less powerful potions, it is way too cheap
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m ridiculously overpowered and way too cheap comparatively 
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m  same comment as for al 1k 
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m should cost his much each
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m same
 
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000


#9 Emperor Sidd

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:37

 
Warriors Elixir
- Cost too high
- Cost may be justified if duration is 360 mins
 
Potion of the Quester
- Cost too high
- Find Item level 800 is worth about 10k gold in the AH
 
Potion of Precision Strike
- OK
- Would prefer 30 mins duration
 
Forgemaster Draft
- Buff level can already be casted
- Cost may be justified if duration is 360 mins
 
Magical Carapace
- Cost too high
- Either double the buff level or 360 mins duration
 
Hunting Lord Potion
- OK
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge
- OK
- Would prefer 30 mins duration
 
Rampage Potion
- OK
- Would prefer 30 mins duration
 
Alchemist Prized Potion
- Cost too high
- Remove Distil
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration
- Cost too high
 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration
- Cost too high
 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration
- Cost too high

Edited by Emperor Sidd, 08 September 2021 - 19:20.


#10 EpicPiety

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:38

Please do not add distil 250, please it's going to break the game. Distil doesn't need to go any higher than zombie brew at 150.


Edited by EpicPiety, 08 September 2021 - 17:38.


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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:43

You also have to consider all the potions and chests (including p2w ones) that will become irrelevant because of these rewards. Not that I donate, but I'd be very interesting to see where it goes if I was.



#12 aaarnio

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:45

Awesome idea! Keep em coming!



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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:45

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

Please don't add any of these - At least not at record high levels like proposed.  :)

  • Leveling doesn't have to be faster than it is today (I like that I still have years of content to get through)
  • Distil 250 will make some buffs too damn good. You can solve this by capping certain buffs levels, but to be honest it's already super non-transparent which buffs are capped when.


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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:50

no to all buffs that are higher than donation chests (epic), triple no to distil its game killer, no need for bigger distill than zbrew 150 ever. doubler 3k and 5k are ok to stay, global doublers too, just remove one 0 from cost


Edited by Artzik, 08 September 2021 - 18:40.


#15 Undjuvion

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:52

no to all buffs that are higher than donation chests (epic), triple no to distil, doubler 3k and 5k are ok to stay

 

i dunno why they would need to be higher than even global rewards.



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Posted 08 September 2021 - 17:53

and you are right undjuvion



#17 Undjuvion

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 18:03

how mant tokens come from DQ a week, 300? 600?

 

edit: moving towards f2p is great tho can the cows afford it?


Edited by Undjuvion, 08 September 2021 - 18:05.


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Posted 08 September 2021 - 18:05

I can see higher doublers, but we don't need higher AL Lib and Cons along with distil to push them even higher. With a high level distil to push the Cons higher, and a high doubler it would be way too easy to hit end game with so little stamina during the double exp event. 

Instead why don't we just have the loyal potions be able to buy a bound fsp chest that are sold with the fsp offers? Doubler and Find item buffs would be better put in composing where they can be increased overtime without becoming unbalanced so easy. Really the good exp buffs should be with the fsp offers only, loyaliy could be the doubler types of buffs and the auction house could have some of the 150 buffs or something. Each way to get potions should have its own unique potions along with a few generic ones.



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Posted 08 September 2021 - 18:05

 

Changes on current pots are fine but I will just give my opinion on new pots , 
My reply in Red
 
New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
This is ok 
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Make  Find Item level 1200 and this will be considerable since we have FI 1000 in AH and higher lvls from chests 
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
I think it should be level 1500 to make use of it . 
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
ok
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Ok
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
yes please !
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
yes please !
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
Big NO this is unreal numbers i would say AL750 LIB750  not anymore .
this should be real rare ! like quest reward only
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Ok
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m
No for this , keep highest Brewing Master comes from Arena shop ! or lvl 500 from chest
also distil 250 is game killer i would say keep it 150 from Zombie brew
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
Thats ok but lower the price
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
Thats ok but lower the price
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000
Thats ok but lower the price
 
 

 


Edited by shindrak, 11 September 2021 - 19:23.


#20 JLeach

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 18:08

I like these potions personally, being able to level even faster sounds great to someone like me who feels they have a long way to catch up to the majority of the player base. I get that for the higher level players in this thread they may not like this but I am a big fan. :)




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