I picked
few posts out that I liked here & agree with (started with the last pages because I did not have time to read them all:
what has "value" and makes profit draws participation to the ladder, that is how every aspect of the game works, be it arena, gvg, pvp, titan hunting, SE hunting, ...
for me the pvp season is an excellent idea for a GLOBAL EVENT (pvp)
I played on active ladders for years and what kept me and others there were the rewards !!!
at that time the rewards had "enough" value to attract people to the pvp ladder !!!
EXAMPLE: ONE single helhearts item was selling for 200 - 250 fsps for a period of 2+ years !!!
the helhearts set was a great set for leveling back then and with time their value dropped (that is natural according to SUPPLY & DEMAND)
years ago it was said that the pvp ladder would get new rewards after so many asked for them and it was decided to introduce new rewards to the pvp arena too !!!
unfortunately ONLY pvp arena rewards were released and the pvp ladder was "ignored"
it is no surprise that the pvp ladder has been seeing hardly any activity with rewards worth next to "nothing"
IF HCS would put the same pvp ladder rewards into the pvp arena, gvg, season then I am sure it would result in hardly any activity too !!!
Why is it that we must continue to insist on taking things away from people? Tokens, whether you like them or not, were earned by people. Some, admittedly, paid more than others for theirs. So, it is what it is. A lack of activity in some Ladder bands were not the fault of the players, it is the fault of no rewards of any value to be earned. These tokens were earned with time, stam, and FSPs. If you place a deadline of say 30 days from now and all tokens are deleted, what would happen?? A flood of the gear they invent will hit the market and values would plummet. How does that help anything? Why not let people just keep their tokens for goodness sakes?? I mean, we sit here and take things away from people and then sit around scratching our heads wondering why the game player base is declining. We get up in arms and demand changes to the game for aspects that we don't like, then when the change comes and 10% of the players leave we wonder what happened? Then another change and 10% more is gone. We love winning these battles until a change comes to something that we like. People are becoming disenfranchised and are leaving this game, usually at the complaining of a minority. Some people are winning a battle but will lose the war when they sit here playing a game with nobody left to compete with.
For the life of me I do not understand why we keep taking away aspects of the game completely and then impliment completely different things? Sure, tweak old things and improve them, but MAJOR game updates should be ADDITIONS to the game to broaden interest and player base. I want as much as anyone to see thousands of people online at any given time. But most of us have found just a narrow band of interest in the game as we are all different. Then, when that aspect becomes radically changed and/or deleted, we lose the reason why we play.
Please HCS, please stop just arbitrarily deleting whole aspects of the game and running off people. Please, restore back some of the things that were taken away and change the policy to tweak when necessary and AD to the game in other areas.
I hope all understand the sincerity of this post and its intent. Whether on or off the mark I want as much as anyone to see this game revived.
BRAVO
Don't give me the excuse either that 5 against 1 on a ladder all from the same guild is harder because it's way easier. I said before when the 1 has buffs he has 5 targets to hit and can take 1st at any time. It's likely the other 5 are not even all online and some on the ladders filled with my guild did not even bother to fight back.
many are under the impression that if a guild has more members in the same pvp band that those members would have an advantage BUT that is not true !!!
everyone who has participated on the pvp ladder against 2 players from the same guild or had a member from his guild in the same band knows that it is a DISADVANTAGE !!!!
before I joined my current guild I was in a small guild and had 2+ players from the same guild joining my pvp band, I had the ADVANTAGE because I could get attack 2 targets every hour and they could only attack me
EXAMPLE: a month or so ago a player called kenwyl joined the 2600 pvp band to earn his dominance medal !!!
he was not from a pvp guild or even a "pvper"
the 2600 band had 5-7 players from the same guild participating, kenwyl joined and guess what, that player dominated this pvp band, he could attack 5-7 players every hour BUT the others could only attack ONE single target every hour, I watched as he rose in almost 1 attack session from the BOTTOM rank to the TOP rank and when he dropped it was very slowly !!!
he knew how to utilize it to his advantage & after a short time managed to get his dominance medal
congrats
I play pvp ladder and many times ask to give value to our rewards to have more activity, years go and no response, pvp ladder get low activity because of rewards, if you do not believe then remove epic rewards from pillow fight system season and you see that same thing will happen, what makes season active is not pillow fighting, reason is epic rewards
if you do not believe then remove epic rewards and see how season activity get inactive
totally agree with you here
if HCS change the titan rewards to common drops for example then there would be hardly anyone titan hunting
the REWARDS on the pvp season are currently the driving force for the current activity, I mean come on, the REWARDS are EPIC CHESTS, we got EPIC CHESTS from GLOBAL EVENTS and that is another reason why the pvp season is in my opinion best suited as a PvP GLOBAL EVENT !!!!
I liked that there is a communtily POLL but to be honest I fear it will end up like this
- if the pvp season stays & the new BB => well, nothing I can do, majority vote has decided
- if the pvp ladder returns & the old BB => then they will add "tweaks" destroying PvP (this is what the last years of PvP updates have taught me BUT I am not losing hope)
in both cases "we" are in trouble? BUT I hope HCS is now trying to follow a new direction to promote PvP and not do the same direction they have been going for the last years that have watered PvP down
I think it is time or are we going to keep riding the "insanity" train and expect different results?
ps: I want to return to the PvP I used to
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Edited by BigGrim, 10 August 2015 - 16:52.
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