10 replies to this topic

[Cremi]

60 days! OUCH. I watched videos and played games I didn't like just to be able to feel around my tree. I'm now a supporter but that's besides the point because I did it for leveling and relics. A respec cannot be taken away like this. Arguably the best part of a game is knowing and personalizing your class. This EP-only purchase will burnnnn and everyone will suffer. Simply not fruitful, it needs to be relooked at.

 

Same with gem removal. Here's a common thought every player is gonna reach at the end:  *I don't think this gem is good enough for my naked staff* when in reality the question being tested to the player should be *is this gem worth X gold to remove*.

 

Let gold open up the game.

 

 

[SagaTeller]

Yeah would appreciate this.

 

 

Since I cancelled my supporter, I wont be having more monthly ep to do respecing and stuff..

 

 

Some more use for gold please(: ...

[redsmokeboy]

One of many thing suggedted in past, Lost with every thing els slow speed of updating less likey see this update any time soon.

 

Farly sure suggested this during closed beta. Just as well still fully agree with gold option.

EP only = pay only - free Means = gold - less pay more option from ingame.

 

regardless spent to much EP on rerolls as is, over all still like gold option.

Long term better for noobs look at game seeing EP as only option, remove gems's as well after first respec - 60 day cd not bad as well every day counts down costless respec just as well still need EP.

 

Free offer limited - for most part not worth doing as welll Free offer don't work for every one.

Edited by redsmokeboy, 30 November 2015 - 00:20.

[Cremi]

Found in May patch notes:

• Councillor Drouth will now let players re-roll the stats on their Infernal Weapons for 250 Eldevin Points.

Would be appreciated if we could get clearer lines on what EP is in this game. Either you can buy weapons with EP or you can't... (I'm assuming you can't). I've played shooters where you could and that's fine, and I'm not sure how i'd feel about an mmo with EP weapons (probably like Fury, more arena ish), but this element right here wherever else it is in the game I'd happily see removed.

[ordinaryfunguy]

well, the cows need money to live on. I would recommend this though cuz im a kid with that gets $0 a year

[Cremi]

well, the cows need money to live on. I would recommend this though cuz im a kid with that gets $0 a year

Its counterproductive and hostile.

[Telivar]

Its counterproductive and hostile.

This game is designed to be enjoyed at a casual rate, and does not support a rate any faster than they want you to play at. You have to get over that fact as i have.

 

I was a little frustrated with the whole respec system, but you have to face the facts about what this company actually is. Eventually they might have a little more leniency with how the game goes, but as it is right now, there's not point in them coding for the convenience because of it being a product they provide for the consumer.

 

Get enough demand, and they may change it. 

 

There's ways around it, but like i said before, it's part of the product they provide.

Edited by Telivar, 05 December 2015 - 05:27.

[Cremi]

I've considered the casual's experience in regard to this cooldown and not even a casual would go at a casual enough rate to not be bothered by the 60 days, meaning 60 days is being unrealistic and i would call that not casual but absent. Also I'd say they do support a speed faster than a supporter option because as you know they have EP pots for experience for both crafting and class as well as loot pots for speedy item gains. Thus I'm stating that EP is an outside-the-game bonus. There's no reason to argue over semantics here I'm simply stating that there's a categorical difference between the problems I've listed in the previous posts regarding EP and the rest of the EP stuff that I'm ok with, stuff that lets you skip the intended leveling process. However I would update that gem removal is skipping the intended content and is not necessary for a traditional gaming experience.

 

The game was designed to be most enjoyable as a subscriber. That's the methodology in practice in these games. That said, many people who are not as interested in the intended leveling process can obtain speedier gains through EP purchase. I spend my EP on vanity. If there was no subscription i would buy vanity points, assuming the progression gains were at the subscriber speed.

 

This is a great little game. I picked it because its keeping the pace of things equal to that of traditional MMOs rather than tricking things out with the new mmo flair that I'm seeing popping up everywhere else. 60 days is outrageous.

 

I wouldn't ask to remove gems with gold again, /newb. However it should be stated that 50 EP still looks very inexpensive p2w...

[Cremi]

err I don't like to call things p2w I just meant to say 50ep always seemed a little bit low to me.

[Telivar]

I've considered the casual's experience in regard to this cooldown and not even a casual would go at a casual enough rate to not be bothered by the 60 days, meaning 60 days is being unrealistic and i would call that not casual but absent. Also I'd say they do support a speed faster than a supporter option because as you know they have EP pots for experience for both crafting and class as well as loot pots for speedy item gains. Thus I'm stating that EP is an outside-the-game bonus. There's no reason to argue over semantics here I'm simply stating that there's a categorical difference between the problems I've listed in the previous posts regarding EP and the rest of the EP stuff that I'm ok with, stuff that lets you skip the intended leveling process. However I would update that gem removal is skipping the intended content and is not necessary for a traditional gaming experience.

 

The game was designed to be most enjoyable as a subscriber. That's the methodology in practice in these games. That said, many people who are not as interested in the intended leveling process can obtain speedier gains through EP purchase. I spend my EP on vanity. If there was no subscription i would buy vanity points, assuming the progression gains were at the subscriber speed.

 

This is a great little game. I picked it because its keeping the pace of things equal to that of traditional MMOs rather than tricking things out with the new mmo flair that I'm seeing popping up everywhere else. 60 days is outrageous.

 

I wouldn't ask to remove gems with gold again, /newb. However it should be stated that 50 EP still looks very inexpensive p2w...

 

 

err I don't like to call things p2w I just meant to say 50ep always seemed a little bit low to me.

I know what you mean and have had those same thoughts. It's just my original post is the conclusion i've come to in regards of this game. Even as a subscribe, you'd still have to be "loyal" for some time in order to play the game in how you'd like. It's not so bad, but the frequency of content and player base just doesn't seem  it's worth it to me. It's a great pittle, but even at a pittle, it's a bit of a chore to continue.

 

You have excellent points, but then again it's all being driven by income. And if you have enough people demanding something different (with in a reason for a company to change), then i probably won't change.

 

That's why i left. I came back just to check out guilds and the state of the game. Probably'll be on here just for giggles and stuff.

[Nikopol]

One of many thing suggedted in past, Lost with every thing els slow speed of updating less likey see this update any time soon.

 

Farly sure suggested this during closed beta. Just as well still fully agree with gold option.

EP only = pay only - free Means = gold - less pay more option from ingame.

 

regardless spent to much EP on rerolls as is, over all still like gold option.

Long term better for noobs look at game seeing EP as only option, remove gems's as well after first respec - 60 day cd not bad as well every day counts down costless respec just as well still need EP.

 

Free offer limited - for most part not worth doing as welll Free offer don't work for every one.

I do not agree, doing it is not needed. Is EP needed? every 24 hours I earn 250 artisans points, that can be exchanged for infernal flake  and then sell on 100 ep. In the total it is possible to do respect every 3th day. It is a game and playing is needed on the rules 'no Pain, no Gain'.

 

Edited by FrozenHearth, 25 December 2015 - 04:05.