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[KeS]

https://forums.hunte...in-some-quests/

 

Someone brought up spam clicking quest items to do the quests. Crimson HQ and BT (among other places/quests) was brought up. HQ is hard for some people and its rarely done in groups. While in BT, once a week, the quest is doable and usually a lot of people has to click the flags. For HQ, the quest is a 1 time thing never to be done again and for BT is once a week where people have to run in crews in order to do it. Yes, spam clicking helps to get the quest done faster but what is there else to gain from it especially in BT where almost everyone has to do it. For the sake of convenience and ease, leave the flags the way they are. There's no danger of these items being exploited for personal gain other than letting everyone getting the quests done in a timely matter.

[ernzor]

Or if you have to change it, make it similar to totems in RG where everyone will get a flag burn +1 if any member of the group burns one.

[Wiivja]

I can tell you one thing if I run that as a tank and Im gonna wait for people to click the flag Im gonna kick them from team. I dont have the patience to wait forever till everyone get burned with their flags. Or get rid of the quest and have us kill jazzhands instead. 

[KeS]

Or if you have to change it, make it similar to totems in RG where everyone will get a flag burn +1 if any member of the group burns one.

Since I'm out of likes, I will simply say that I support this idea if they have to change it.

[KeS]

I can tell you one thing if I run that as a tank and Im gonna wait for people to click the flag Im gonna kick them from team. I dont have the patience to wait forever till everyone get burned with their flags. Or get rid of the quest and have us kill jazzhands instead. 

Agreed

[Spirit]

From what I read, not everyone could spam click it... so wouldn't that be the reason why for the fix?

As for BT, never tried that so... dunno how that is supposed to work.

[CandyCandy]

They can put less flag.. like 5 flag ! it will be more fine than 14 !

[NerdyNeko]

You can just burn the flags after you cleared bt and all or burn them while tank is pulling mobs.. Why do people make this little thing like its most important thing in game?

[drdoom123]

CHICKENS !

[CandyCandy]

[FuusRoDah]

From what I read, not everyone could spam click it... so wouldn't that be the reason why for the fix?

As for BT, never tried that so... dunno how that is supposed to work.

on the forum thread we were trying to make it seem as though it wasnt a bug. everyone can do it

[Wiivja]

You can just burn the flags after you cleared bt and all or burn them while tank is pulling mobs.. Why do people make this little thing like its most important thing in game?

Because it will take like 10 minutes or something for all 5 to get all their flags burned. I wanna kill stuff not wait for flags to get back. 

[KeS]

You can just burn the flags after you cleared bt and all or burn them while tank is pulling mobs.. Why do people make this little thing like its most important thing in game?

The same thing can be said about some of the updates in the game.....if something is not broken, why try to fix it?

[CandyCandy]

For the 14 flags I would submit the idea ... To share the clique for all members of the group !!! like totems RG ...
Because ... as has corrected something malfunctioning , as well fix it !

It's like the RG , there are 7 totems in the dungeon and must be 10 click !! we must correct this quest and put only 7 totem in the quest because it forces us to redo several times the dungeon !

[Spirit]

(You guys had me fooled lol)

Again this is directed towards spam-clicking and not BT's issue.

It does not make sense to light/gather/collect one item multiple times. It's like as if you are obtaining duplicate items then you shouldn't have had in the first place.

So I doubt the staff would ever revert this bug fix.

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As for BT, it does sound like a pain.. if assuming the flags are placed in different locations... and isn't this a weekly quest? If so, then you do have a week to complete it. If it is a daily, then yeah that would make sense...

Edit: never mind, post says once a week.

Edited by Spirit, 25 July 2015 - 19:05.

[KeS]

It does not make sense to light/gather/collect one item multiple times. It's like as if you are obtaining duplicate items then you shouldn't have had in the first place.

 

Its only for a quest that you can get once a week and you have to be in a group to do. The way it is, you can get the quest done faster and all in 1 run compared to RG (as candy stated, it need some changes). Now if they make will burning the flags applies to all, then I have no complaints. There's nothing else to be gained from this other than "hey quest done"

[Irradiated]

I see HCS locked the bug report on this issue, saying it will be fixed in the next patch.

 

Message to HCS:  Can you please respond to this thread?  If you're going to change it, are you considering any of the suggestions here?  As was said many times, changing this arbitrarily makes BT more difficult without adding anything.  Actually, 'more difficult' is the wrong word here.  Should say a PITA.

 

Please don't ignore your player base (again).  Tell us what's going on.  And more important, if you're not considering what was said here, why?

 

(I have no problem with fixing this in C HQ, as it just raises the quest to the intended challenge.  It's BT I'm concerned with.)

 

Re:  The realism argument.  IMHO, the main concern should be fun game play.  If we're really concerned with realism much of the game needs a rewrite .

Edited by Irradiated, 26 July 2015 - 21:30.

[Anakiro]

This bug is absolutely being fixed. In fact, the way is has been done up until now is considered an exploit. We intended for you to have to go into BT more than once in the week, which is why that quest is not a daily. We feel that the rewards are worth more than making a group with someone and spam-clicking the first flag in the dungeon (which is entirely possible and something we'd prefer to avoid).

 

Judging from the initial thread it also seems this doesn't work for everyone. We want the game to be on a level playing field, so we're correcting the quest so that everyone has to do the same thing. I understand that it's an increase in effort, as it'll take more of your time to do, but it really was never supposed to be such a faceroll.

 

As of this week's update, the quest will be exactly as it is now. That is aside from the ability to spam-click the flags. If people still feel strongly about these quests given a few weeks of doing it, we can look at applying some of the suggestions in this thread. For example, I'm not averse to letting a flag count for the group. However, this would be a more substantial change to the quest that we don't really have time to apply before the summer event.

 

There are two other quests that will be affected by this fix. I can't really see them undergoing any further changes.

[TimeWillTell]

Judging from the initial thread it also seems this doesn't work for everyone. We want the game to be on a level playing field, so we're correcting the quest so that everyone has to do the same thing. I understand that it's an increase in effort, as it'll take more of your time to do, but it really was never supposed to be such a faceroll.

 

 

It worked for everyone trust me, these guys were just playing around saying it didn't as literally noone would be interested in going to BT more than once during the week and having to click so many flags.

[Wiivja]

Ill simply just kick players who take flag before me then:) I already have to do this with 16 chars a week:)