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#1 Benzidine

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:17

Good day everyone :

Just got one question about Scavenger and Find Item skills.
From HK and Elites, the type of their drops are named with "resource".
That should works better by using scavenger 200 stim, but things looks like not.

From every kill logs, we can see HK hunters only using Find Item to get drops.
But for level 250 Elite, I saw some friends using scavenger 200 stim for the drop.

Here comes my question :

Scavenger works when Elite/HK hunting ?
If we use both, will it be better to get resource drops ?

best regards,
Benz

#2 RJEM

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:27

Scavenger does not work with Elite or HK drops. BG stated that when the stims were released, in order to prevent the drop market becoming like that in 'another game'.

FI works, as does Mission Finder on the most recent Elite.

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(All that is from memory, so may not be 100% accurate)

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:46

Scavenger does not work with Elite or HK drops. BG stated that when the stims were released, in order to prevent the drop market becoming like that in 'another game'.

FI works, as does Mission Finder on the most recent Elite.

Regards,

RJEM

(All that is from memory, so may not be 100% accurate)

Find Item is good for equipment drops and for resource drops from the HK and elite. Mission Finder is for mission items. Scavenger is for resource drops from the mobs.

Since the 250 elite is dropping maps (mission item) and 1 mission item to use in the BP, one should be using Mission Finder. I personally think using the scavenger stim is a waste of a roll to get a mission item.

If you are going for the resource drop from the elite, only use FI.

It is also my understanding that the FI buff will override the mission finder and scavenger skill.

#4 RJEM

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 12:31

Yep - that sounds about right:

1st Roll - Find Item kicks in to increase the chance of a random drop.
2nd Roll - from experience, Scavenger kicks in next with a fixed % chance of a resource drop (not elite or HK)
3rd Roll - Mission Finder kicks in on all entities.

As I see it, Scavenger should actually have ZERO impact on the elite, since it has nothing to kick on. The 2nd roll is effectively skipped, so MF comes in unaffected.

As you say though, to get the Resource drop you need FI active. I've got 1 drop with 50 kills so far :(

#5 BigGrim

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 14:16

Scavenger does not work with Elites or HKs. Use Find Item.

#6 EdTheHead

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 14:25

Scavenger does not work with Elites or HKs. Use Find Item.


You're confusing us BG
on forum viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6916&start=10
In which acidic said 45 elites killed, one one drop so far for the sets. Is the drop rate right?

you responded with
Yes. The drop rate is correct.
You need to be using Mission Finder & Resource Finder.

which is where the confusion with Scavenger has now surfaced?

#7 centurion

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 14:49

BG is allowed to change his mind :D. or have a Geritol moment LOL. so, this one is tough drops to get. oh well.

#8 RJEM

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 15:28

Scavenger does not work with Elites or HKs. Use Find Item.


You're confusing us BG
on forum viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6916&start=10
In which acidic said 45 elites killed, one one drop so far for the sets. Is the drop rate right?

you responded with
Yes. The drop rate is correct.
You need to be using Mission Finder & Resource Finder.

which is where the confusion with Scavenger has now surfaced?


Yeah - confusing, but wrong in the end. I believe it was an honest mistake, as Scavenger has never worked on elites :)

#9 BigGrim

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:13

which is where the confusion with Scavenger has now surfaced?


Yeah, I was having a 'Senior Moment'. It completely slipped my mind at that point that Savenger does not work with Elites. I'm like Denny Crane. I have the Mad Cow but I'm not as cool. :oops:


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