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#1 gothador_vickieverki

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 03:45

Whats all the fuss over these greek rings that give you 15/20 mining and people are buying them for 9 oospsas when there tunneler runes +15 def and +10 mining for sale on the trade network for 1/2 benes.

Stick a blacksmiths Gem on there and you have

Def +20, mining +10, smelting +10!

marvellous.

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#2 gothador_nibbler

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 03:46

Shouldnt this be in rants Zina?

#3 vickieverkie

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 04:04

She's not zina for the love of God!

Leave my angel alone!

#4 gothador_nibbler

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 04:11

She's not zina for the love of God!

Leave my angel alone!


If it walks like a ***, talks like a *** and insults other players like said ***, then it must be a *** :wink:

#5 gothador_raelcleap

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 04:19

"If you mean she wails like a banshee, it must be zina! No offence like,...erm..sorry lied there! We ain't sorry."

#6 gothador_vickieverki

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 11:31

Any sad puppet who thinks I'm Zina is following the thoughtless lies of a few sad self obsessed sheep who believe everything their fellow sheep bleat.

I was only making the point that tunneler runes are out there and the obsession with greek rings is a bit sad, not ranting about it.

I'm also selling said runes so this could be in trading or items but as I'm pointing out their existance and that you can add a blacksmiths gem (also an item) means that its in items.

Thank you Gel, he and the rest of my cult know I'm not a clone.

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#7 gothador_calligula

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:05

If you're a mage, you want the highest possible wisdom bonus you can get, yeah?

If you're a warrior, you want the best damage boosts you can get, yeah?

The same goes for us miners.

Tunneler Runes have been around for over a year now, so any decent miner that wants the best boosts they can get in a mining / smelting set should already have one in their inventory to use.

However, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't want to be able to get the absolute maximum bonuses to our mining and smelting possible - it's basic human nature to want more than what you currently have.

Yes it's true that you can do perfectly fine without Raider Rings to wear while you mine and smelt...but that doesn't mean they aren't pretty damn spiffy to have while you're going. ;)

#8 gothador_vickieverki

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:18

I think Ive said this on a different forum but I am averaging 3 levels on mining or smelting per 1000ap. If the item is costing 9000ap and giving you less than 27 levels, it just isnt worth it, besides the benefit of the bars that can be smelted and the items forged for sale or to pass to culties.

There seems to be a mass frenzy for these rare items which makes people think illogically. I have 5 from drops, they probably cost 1500ap to collect and I can get around 60USPs from their sale, this 60000ap will benefit me for more than equipping them and gaining levels that way.

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#9 gothador_calligula

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:22

If you don't believe they are worthwhile to use for miners / smelters / foragers to use, well then that is your perogative but if you wade through the posts that were in the thread about the Raider Items in the rants section, you will see that the math shows these items are almost invaluable boosts in some cases for kick-starting xp in the various "trades" and more than pay for themselves.

It's not a simple case of "the item gives x levels and I can get x levels per usp" but more a case of "these items give you a kick start to getting x+y more than you would otherwise".

#10 gothador_vickieverki

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:27

I agree that thay give you a good start to a new miner as you can get to 90+% very quickly but my miner is 1300 mining and 1200 smelting so I can use the USP boost rather than the ring stat boost better at that level.

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#11 gothador_calligula

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:35

Regardless of what level you are at as a miner, smelter or forager you can still benefit from the rings purely because they allow you to mine, smelt or forage at a level that is above your base; in some instances, allowing you to mine, smelt or forage a higher material than you could otherwise manage thus earning you higher xp in comparison to your base level and making your base mining, smelting or foraging level increase faster than it otherwise would.

For example, you stated that you get 3 levels per usp now for mining and smelting - if one of these Raider Rings puts you in a position where you can move on to a higher material, wearing them could earn you more levels per usp than you would get otherwise, because your mining, smelting or foraging xp gain between levels is still calculated at the base rate not the new total rate you're at.


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