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#141 cyrus7

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 00:17

Since this seems to be an Official Discussion Threadâ„¢, I thought I'd say this in here instead of making my own threads... partially because I know I saw someone else mention it in another thread... but there's like 3 dozen threads on the PvP arena scattered all over the forum...

Can we please have a separate forum section for PvP?

It makes sense from an organizational view, and also I'm tired of seeing tons of new and replied to threads (many of them duplicates) in General, Suggestions, Newbie Help, etc, that all relate to PvP! I'm not a PvPer, and I know I'm not the only one who really doesn't care lol... and would really like to not have to sort through all the 'spam' to get to other stuff. ;)

Thanks.

#142 fs_rulen

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 03:03

well the PvP Arena has been running for a short time and it looks like the only ones winning are L200+:( how about placing a cap on some groups so the little people have a chance


Not true, I was one of the 1st winners, and I'm nowhere near 200


166 is alot closer to 200 than some of us, quit splitting hairs, this thing is biased to those who have more level up points.....


level up points are not counted. Try entering a lvl 50 tournment with items all above and you'll see that you only get the base stats 1 att, 1 damage, 1 def, 1 armor and 10 hp.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 03:04

Since this seems to be an Official Discussion Threadâ„¢, I thought I'd say this in here instead of making my own threads... partially because I know I saw someone else mention it in another thread... but there's like 3 dozen threads on the PvP arena scattered all over the forum...

Can we please have a separate forum section for PvP?

It makes sense from an organizational view, and also I'm tired of seeing tons of new and replied to threads (many of them duplicates) in General, Suggestions, Newbie Help, etc, that all relate to PvP! I'm not a PvPer, and I know I'm not the only one who really doesn't care lol... and would really like to not have to sort through all the 'spam' to get to other stuff. ;)

Thanks.



oh and I LOVE this idea.

#144 fs_redeye52

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 19:03

A rush job? LMAO! They took months developing this. I have no idea if the arena uses the stats it "snapshots" or what you're wearing at the time, but it seems to work. Also, since level up points don't matter, your level is not relevant in that aspect. My concern is that higher level players have more access to gold & thus FSP so they can afford better gear. That is what is not fair here.

#145 fs_whiskeyjim

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 05:41

i'm sorry but level 292 players should not be allowed to be in the same tournament as someone who is level 70 or 20...


you don't understand: it is irrelevant what level you are, and what guild you are in. it only matters what gear you have on.

The cows did this on purpose so everyone could fight everyone. So you're OK!!!

Hoof, is it possible to add this as an FAQ on the PvP Arena Guide. This misconception is vast...lol.

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 17:23

i love the new arena but i have noticed that some player have won a lot of buffs that seems to give them an advantage 1 guy i came up against had 10 now what chance have players with no buff got against this, this is a great gold sink but unless there is away of evening the playing field alot of players will walk away, i won't waste gold, i need to know i have a fighting chance of winning. we should be able to buy buffs for the arena. but apart from that its fun :)

#147 fs_tda

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:34

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but there are too many FSP tourneys. I guess a certain number run at a time, and most of the ones currently open are FSP ones.

The FSP tourneys aren't popular because:

256 people is a lot
Moves/Gear >>>> 2FSP


So please make fewer FSP tourneys or make the field smaller.

Loving the Arena - great job!

#148 fs_serp3

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:37

I like the level limit idea. I have entered a few lvl 10 tournaments and was beaten every time by someone over lvl 100. Yes limiting the equipment to that level is a good thing but if you are over lvl 100 in a lvl 10 tournament then you could go in without anything and still win without much trouble. I think that the level of the tournament should be the max vl of the players that can enter, or if not the max level then make it like the pvp now only 5 lvls above or below the lvl limit. That's my idea I hope that you will take it under advisment. Thanks.

#149 fs_generica

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:21

Perhaps there should be a limit on how many tournaments any given player can enter on a given day, so that everyone else can have a chance? If the amount of tournaments a player can enter is limited, that gives everyone a chance to enjoy this great new feature, because then these greedy players can't enter every single tournament they have items for (which is probably all of them).

After thinking about this a while, maybe a daily tournament entry limit, combined with only being able to enter tournaments within a certain range of your current level will do the trick. Hunted cow can put in FSP upgrades to buy additional daily tournament entry slots (say up to a max of 50), and no-one is allowed to enter a tournament that is more than 25 or 50 levels away from their current level.
Doing this means:
Hunted cow makes money from fsps;
Everybody gets to enjoy the tournaments;
There is at least a semblance of a level playing field instead of what is happening now.


I like this idea, to limit the number of tourneys per day each player can enter. I also agree there should be some limit to the levels that are able to enter, as the higher the player level the more resources the player has to own the best equipment. Maybe within 50 levels? 25 is too few I think.

I also agree with previous posts that 256 players is too many per tourney, just looking now and nearly every open tourney is one that requires 256 entries for minimal fsp prize. I think either the number of fsp needs to increase & number of fsp prize tourneys decrease, OR the max number of entrants should be decreased.

#150 repules

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 14:36

well i said that the arena was fun changed my mind now, hcs are once again going to let a few player dominate, instead of making it an even playing field, when you have players like Daflunk with over 30 arena wins, ruining it for everyone else with god knows how many different buffs. I think i will save my gold instead of wasting it it the arena.

#151 Bichon

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 15:33

well i said that the arena was fun changed my mind now, hcs are once again going to let a few player dominate, instead of making it an even playing field, when you have players like Daflunk with over 30 arena wins, ruining it for everyone else with god knows how many different buffs. I think i will save my gold instead of wasting it it the arena.



#152 fs_tully

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 18:46

Hi all,

Ok here we go!

This is a thread dedicated to brainstorming ideas that you would like to see when we implement the PvP Tournament system.

Please try to keep the discussion on track and remember the following points:-

- The system must be fair and accessible to all players
- It will be something you opt-in for

On that note, also have a think about...

How would you like it to work?
(For example, maybe there should be an extra fee for each tournament and the winner takes all)

How would you like the tournaments structured?

How frequently should they be run?

What would you like to see included in them?

Also if you have any other thoughts or comments we'd love to hear them as it can only make it better!

We'll leave this running for about a week from now then take a proper look through everyones ideas and being constructing a final plan for the system (based on everyones ideas). Then we'll come back to you with that and see if you all like it before we make it live! 8)

- hoof

Tournament #1180 person who won it cannot use sell or pass the item .... raises a Question Why are they allowed to enter. And why Dosent the game code inform them of this ??

#153 fs_nthnclls

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 21:02

Hi all,

Ok here we go!

This is a thread dedicated to brainstorming ideas that you would like to see when we implement the PvP Tournament system.

Please try to keep the discussion on track and remember the following points:-

- The system must be fair and accessible to all players
- It will be something you opt-in for

On that note, also have a think about...

How would you like it to work?
(For example, maybe there should be an extra fee for each tournament and the winner takes all)

How would you like the tournaments structured?

How frequently should they be run?

What would you like to see included in them?

Also if you have any other thoughts or comments we'd love to hear them as it can only make it better!

We'll leave this running for about a week from now then take a proper look through everyones ideas and being constructing a final plan for the system (based on everyones ideas). Then we'll come back to you with that and see if you all like it before we make it live! 8)

- hoof

Tournament #1180 person who won it cannot use sell or pass the item .... raises a Question Why are they allowed to enter. And why Dosent the game code inform them of this ??


They aren't allowed to trade it because it's a bound item.

#154 fs_nthnclls

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 19:41

If you didn't want it, you shouldn't have entered. :wink:

#155 fs_sisland

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 15:32

well the PvP Arena has been running for a short time and it looks like the only ones winning are L200+:( how about placing a cap on some groups so the little people have a chance


Not true. IronHorse is only level 25 and has won 3. I have lost to him twice and never won. If a level 25 can do it, so can you. :)

#156 fs_orvas

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 08:05

Seriously, the most lame feature is that all of the low levels are trying to battle to earn their items, skills, etc. and yet all of their fun is ruined by lvl 400+ characters coming in and beating the stuffing out of them. Seriously: Level restrictions

#157 fs_treeline

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 23:04

well the PvP Arena has been running for a short time and it looks like the only ones winning are L200+:( how about placing a cap on some groups so the little people have a chance


Not true. IronHorse is only level 25 and has won 3. I have lost to him twice and never won. If a level 25 can do it, so can you. :)


lol, IronHorse has been beating me all day

#158 maxvam

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 16:53

It only Happens When 100 lvl 25 Fails and one Wins ... how can one afford to buy the spines at their lvl , as the prices are too high , who owns the spine have a 90% chance to win in the pvp arena..... at lvl 25 1 out of 100 can afford to buy a spine item... and he will win...

but at lvl 200+ or 300+ can easily buy a spine item and gain the prize of the low level tourney's that's it.....


ANY BODY WANT TO WIN GET A SPINE ITEM............

#159 fs_bladeboss

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 23:51

i think there should be a maxamum level for each tornument because lv 300 people are entering lv 40 tournments and its not fair. the lv 300 peple should just join their lv 300 tourments.


You can wear the same gear as them, why don't you?

#160 fs_sleepsalot

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 00:08

Well in a level 40 event they cant either so that is what people are talking about

i cant wear lv 300 armor i dont know what you are talking about




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