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#161 WilkinsS

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 00:21

nvr mind about my suggestion :shock:

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 06:36

they wont give FREE fsp for medals. stam gain or max stamina are the best suggestions for the medals

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 07:03

o didnt know about that stam gain would be pretty cool though :D

#164 fs_aurynne

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 22:48

well... indefinitely postponed or not...

there is ONE very big issue to contend with...

90% OF UPGRADES PRIMARILY AFFECT THE UPPER 1%!!


kk... my political rant is done... in any case... the problem with this idea is that it grants those guys... like RETSNOM... (ally or not, yer still ridiculously stacked buddy) WAY too much power... they have no ceiling, bc HCS has raised it consistently, so lower level guys can never catch up to ever be viable powers... add this to the fact that you have super powered guilds made entirely of guys like RETS and you make it impossible for other guilds to even be competitive in the grand scheme of things... if any one of the top guilds wants something currently... they are pretty much guaranteed to be able to take it... and yer giving them things to make em EXPONENTIALLY MORE POWERFUL?

Stamina I guess is one thing... but even that is kinda annoying... you realize that over time that just means that the guild in question will be receiving more fsp, gold, and or xp out of that bc they'll sell buffs or hunt more...

my two centavos... believe what you want, but I don't like the way they are thinking of executing it... if at all...

If they ever decide to do this, it'd be best that ANY medal has a small bonus attached to it... keep it fair so people can build at reasonable rates, and once they catch up, give an incentive that is attainable to anyone...

Nearly every time I come on I learn that For Fracks Sake (RETS guild) has taken a titan... and sometimes that they got some massively powerful drop out of it...

do you realize that some of these guys could fight me naked and still kick my arse when I'm wearing legendary armor for my level?

#165 acvila

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 06:33

what about exp gain?

#166 fs_grantslego

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 12:17

well... indefinitely postponed or not...

there is ONE very big issue to contend with...

90% OF UPGRADES PRIMARILY AFFECT THE UPPER 1%!!


kk... my political rant is done... in any case... the problem with this idea is that it grants those guys... like RETSNOM... (ally or not, yer still ridiculously stacked buddy) WAY too much power... they have no ceiling, bc HCS has raised it consistently, so lower level guys can never catch up to ever be viable powers... add this to the fact that you have super powered guilds made entirely of guys like RETS and you make it impossible for other guilds to even be competitive in the grand scheme of things... if any one of the top guilds wants something currently... they are pretty much guaranteed to be able to take it... and yer giving them things to make em EXPONENTIALLY MORE POWERFUL?

Stamina I guess is one thing... but even that is kinda annoying... you realize that over time that just means that the guild in question will be receiving more fsp, gold, and or xp out of that bc they'll sell buffs or hunt more...

my two centavos... believe what you want, but I don't like the way they are thinking of executing it... if at all...

If they ever decide to do this, it'd be best that ANY medal has a small bonus attached to it... keep it fair so people can build at reasonable rates, and once they catch up, give an incentive that is attainable to anyone...

Nearly every time I come on I learn that For Fracks Sake (RETS guild) has taken a titan... and sometimes that they got some massively powerful drop out of it...

do you realize that some of these guys could fight me naked and still kick my arse when I'm wearing legendary armor for my level?



do you ever shut up about the "upper 1%"????

seriously,

a level 1 can get all the upgrades as someone at the end of content right now, all he has to do is donate...

the upper 1%:

often has to wait weeks for new content before they can hunt.
communicates and cooperates to win titans
they work hard for everything they win
they work for their medals

#167 fs_grantslego

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 12:19

maybe you get a choice of:
+1 stamina per hour
+100 max stamina
1 free 1 skill reset
+25 gold gain per hour
+10% Experience towards next level
+500 current stamina
+1 backpack slot
+1000 bounty tickets
+1 auction
+1 upgrade of 25 XP Gain (per hour)
+20 fsp
+4 component slots


you get the choice of 1 of any of these and you can choose one of these at ANY time



bump

#168 fs_aurynne

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 13:48

well... indefinitely postponed or not...

there is ONE very big issue to contend with...

90% OF UPGRADES PRIMARILY AFFECT THE UPPER 1%!!


kk... my political rant is done... in any case... the problem with this idea is that it grants those guys... like RETSNOM... (ally or not, yer still ridiculously stacked buddy) WAY too much power... they have no ceiling, bc HCS has raised it consistently, so lower level guys can never catch up to ever be viable powers... add this to the fact that you have super powered guilds made entirely of guys like RETS and you make it impossible for other guilds to even be competitive in the grand scheme of things... if any one of the top guilds wants something currently... they are pretty much guaranteed to be able to take it... and yer giving them things to make em EXPONENTIALLY MORE POWERFUL?

Stamina I guess is one thing... but even that is kinda annoying... you realize that over time that just means that the guild in question will be receiving more fsp, gold, and or xp out of that bc they'll sell buffs or hunt more...

my two centavos... believe what you want, but I don't like the way they are thinking of executing it... if at all...

If they ever decide to do this, it'd be best that ANY medal has a small bonus attached to it... keep it fair so people can build at reasonable rates, and once they catch up, give an incentive that is attainable to anyone...

Nearly every time I come on I learn that For Fracks Sake (RETS guild) has taken a titan... and sometimes that they got some massively powerful drop out of it...

do you realize that some of these guys could fight me naked and still kick my arse when I'm wearing legendary armor for my level?



do you ever shut up about the "upper 1%"????

seriously,

a level 1 can get all the upgrades as someone at the end of content right now, all he has to do is donate...

the upper 1%:

often has to wait weeks for new content before they can hunt.
communicates and cooperates to win titans
they work hard for everything they win
they work for their medals



I refuse to stop being frustrated and talking about the upper 1%, until I see that the glass ceiling has sat for a while... dude... I started years after FF11 and after a good period of time I made it into the upper 1% and yea I understand, I had NOTHING to do for a while that I couldn't already do... the game was about PVP until every so often they did som'n that expanded gameplay... I didn't stop playing, but the awesome thing was that, bc of that glass ceiling, I kept get more and more REALLY good challengers who made me have to work to beat them in PVP... and I didn't always win but it was a hell of a lot more fun.

This is the flaw in the continuing vertical expansion... eventually its just going to become topheavy bc the upper 1 will be SO far ahead of good players that it doesn't really matter how hard you work, ur guaranteed to never make it into the upper 1, bc they just take all the titans and u have no option but to fight smaller critters if you want to get anything out of it at all.

So sorry, but this is a flaw in the process yer fightin for... and I'm just pointing it out.

#169 fs_grantslego

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 12:18

well... indefinitely postponed or not...

there is ONE very big issue to contend with...

90% OF UPGRADES PRIMARILY AFFECT THE UPPER 1%!!


kk... my political rant is done... in any case... the problem with this idea is that it grants those guys... like RETSNOM... (ally or not, yer still ridiculously stacked buddy) WAY too much power... they have no ceiling, bc HCS has raised it consistently, so lower level guys can never catch up to ever be viable powers... add this to the fact that you have super powered guilds made entirely of guys like RETS and you make it impossible for other guilds to even be competitive in the grand scheme of things... if any one of the top guilds wants something currently... they are pretty much guaranteed to be able to take it... and yer giving them things to make em EXPONENTIALLY MORE POWERFUL?

Stamina I guess is one thing... but even that is kinda annoying... you realize that over time that just means that the guild in question will be receiving more fsp, gold, and or xp out of that bc they'll sell buffs or hunt more...

my two centavos... believe what you want, but I don't like the way they are thinking of executing it... if at all...

If they ever decide to do this, it'd be best that ANY medal has a small bonus attached to it... keep it fair so people can build at reasonable rates, and once they catch up, give an incentive that is attainable to anyone...

Nearly every time I come on I learn that For Fracks Sake (RETS guild) has taken a titan... and sometimes that they got some massively powerful drop out of it...

do you realize that some of these guys could fight me naked and still kick my arse when I'm wearing legendary armor for my level?



do you ever shut up about the "upper 1%"????

seriously,

a level 1 can get all the upgrades as someone at the end of content right now, all he has to do is donate...

the upper 1%:

often has to wait weeks for new content before they can hunt.
communicates and cooperates to win titans
they work hard for everything they win
they work for their medals



I refuse to stop being frustrated and talking about the upper 1%, until I see that the glass ceiling has sat for a while... dude... I started years after FF11 and after a good period of time I made it into the upper 1% and yea I understand, I had NOTHING to do for a while that I couldn't already do... the game was about PVP until every so often they did som'n that expanded gameplay... I didn't stop playing, but the awesome thing was that, bc of that glass ceiling, I kept get more and more REALLY good challengers who made me have to work to beat them in PVP... and I didn't always win but it was a hell of a lot more fun.

This is the flaw in the continuing vertical expansion... eventually its just going to become topheavy bc the upper 1 will be SO far ahead of good players that it doesn't really matter how hard you work, ur guaranteed to never make it into the upper 1, bc they just take all the titans and u have no option but to fight smaller critters if you want to get anything out of it at all.

So sorry, but this is a flaw in the process yer fightin for... and I'm just pointing it out.


you are waaaaayyyyy to noobish to have ever been in the top 1%

it is possible for someone to gain 500 levels in 3 months, as misbehaved has proven, in 5 months he was in the 700s, it is possible for new players to get to the top...

#170 fs_aurynne

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 21:00

READ CLOSER...

FF11... was top 1%

FS... never was... and probably will never have a chance to be... but the difference between the two games?

GLASS CEILING!!!

Once the Upper 1 in Final Fantasy got stuck there waiting for the next expansion... that gave guys who were lower levels time to advance on them. This is how I made it into upper one in FF11 (on Ragnarok server)... and ya know what... it was still fun when I hit the ceiling... that was the point of my statement.

and as for being "noobish"...

I spend more time in this forum trying to better this game than actually playing it. You and I started playing around the same time, as noted by yer bronze medal, I spent most of my time in here wanting to fix things to make em more fun... just think on that.

#171 fs_grantslego

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 22:17

what is FF11? final fantasy 11? the reason you think FF11 is better than FS is because in FF11 their isn't a million people interacting with eachother. a game system game is nothing compared to FS.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 22:19

and as for being "noobish"...

I spend more time in this forum trying to better this game than actually playing it. You and I started playing around the same time, as noted by yer bronze medal, I spent most of my time in here wanting to fix things to make em more fun... just think on that.


The problem with that is, if you don't play the game often then you won't understand everything about it, you won't understand the market, the players, or any other important aspect of the game, theirfore you can't try to better the game without playing.
and brilliant one, you started a year before me, you are obviously stuck in the past. the game has changed quite a bit since you started over 2 years ago

#173 fs_aurynne

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 06:23

This is turning into a flame war...

fact is... I play now too... and I know I'm generally not alone in my assessments of things.

Lateral expansion is usually appreciated by upper level players in any game... it gives more to do... and again... Final Fantasy is a perfect example... as is World of Warcraft... they spend more time making lateral expansions that create many new challenges for gamers to go back and complete and the gamers are satisfied by it... and there are MILLIONs of FF11 players... yes... they lift the glass ceiling on occasion... but... they tend to expand sideways first.

#174 fs_grantslego

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:12

i see no problem with the content below level 100, you constantly 1-hit. you have no expensive buffs to buy. everything that a level 700 can do a level 10 can do (except SE-hunting, although in a good guild with a strong group it is possible at level 10)

#175 fs_aurynne

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 20:39

I'm not too concerned with content.

Most of my arguments are in favor of utilities... I know you aren't always the person barking at me that in game utilities can just wait, in favor of high level content... I personally feel that the more user friendly the game is, and more well rounded the user interface is, the less anyone is going to have anything to complain about.

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 16:41

each medal should give you 25 max stamina !!!!!!!!!!

#177 fs_aurynne

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 17:40

each medal should give you 25 max stamina !!!!!!!!!!


Perhaps this would be the bonus for those that get medals for annual service or loyalty..?


Perhaps 25 stamina for bronze

30 for silver

40 for gold

50 for crystal

I know HCS doesn't want to give away free stamina... but my rationale is that they aren't giving away a freebie so much as rewarding long term active players, (they are also usually the long term supporters of the game)

The other thing is that this keeps the rewards minimal, so it doesn't affect the overall heirarchy in game that much.

#178 fs_grantslego

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 18:47

do you know how hard it is to get some crystal medals? how does stamina help inventors? that is why you should get to choose your reward

maybe you get a choice of:
+1 stamina per hour
+100 max stamina
1 free 1 skill reset
+25 gold gain per hour
+10% Experience towards next level
+500 current stamina
+1 backpack slot
+1000 bounty tickets
+1 auction
+1 upgrade of 25 XP Gain (per hour)
+20 fsp
+4 component slots


you get the choice of 1 of any of these and you can choose one of these at ANY time for each crystal medal that you achieve



bumping my idea again.

#179 fs_philip333

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:32

i support his idea :) ^

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:53

do you know how hard it is to get some crystal medals? how does stamina help inventors? that is why you should get to choose your reward


maybe you get a choice of:
+1 stamina per hour
+100 max stamina
1 free 1 skill reset
+25 gold gain per hour
+10% Experience towards next level
+500 current stamina
+1 backpack slot
+1000 bounty tickets
+1 auction
+1 upgrade of 25 XP Gain (per hour)
+20 fsp
+4 component slots


you get the choice of 1 of any of these and you can choose one of these at ANY time for each crystal medal that you achieve



bumping my idea again.


those are the same as asking for free fsp imo


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