Removing Find Item 1000 from potion list
#1
fs_myself18
Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:33
#2
Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:41
But i would like them to NOT work on LE
#3
Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:09
#4
Posted 03 July 2008 - 04:14
#5
fs_onemember
Posted 03 July 2008 - 05:07
Point was -> FI 1000 = bad to this gameim confused, dont understand your post.
#6
fs_rulen
Posted 03 July 2008 - 06:00
As to the SE hunting. GC and Baron should be that high of a drop rate. I like the way it is and don't think it should change. Not sure why you don't use a Fi 1k on nojor or malphas as you logic makes no sense. You should use the highest potion you can in order to have more of a chance at getting a drop, but go ahead hunt SEs all you want with low FI. It just means that prices will stay higher on those items for when I get drops.
#7
fs_skylock
Posted 03 July 2008 - 12:51
#8
fs_phippsey
Posted 03 July 2008 - 13:21
Revisit this topic when you reach level 300 and hunt for Sabertooth set. The drop rate is very low and you'll be glad there's a FI 1000.
Same with Ragnok!
#9
fs_phippsey
Posted 03 July 2008 - 13:21
I like FI 1000 potions..
But i would like them to NOT work on LE
#10
fs_angiefc
Posted 03 July 2008 - 13:42
If FI does remain then definately FI 1000 should not work on LE event mobs. It really does create way too many items, plus with the small numbers of people able to get ahold of it makes it hard to do anything.
I'm not an Se hunter so I wouldn't know about the troubles when you don't get a drop, but considering that you can almost always find at least half a dozen of any given item in AH that shows there's likely too many of the sets out there, after all aren't they supposed to be 'rare'.
#11
Posted 03 July 2008 - 16:57
Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!
#12
fs_ecolitan
Posted 03 July 2008 - 22:18
I understand the concept behind them but I actually agree that the FI 1000 is a bit overkill, the most should be 500. That gives you a 50/50 chance to find an item, on top of the chance already there.
ummmm. No that's not right. If the original drop rate (for say Jaguar Meat) is 5%. FI 1000 makes it 10%. FI 500 makes it 7.5%.
The problem with the last LE event, if there was one, was the underestimation of the farming. I didn't understand why LE creatures appeared 20 deep on squares. Even without FI pots I more than filled my backpack any time I hunted for them.
I have used FI 1000 on several elites to get drop rates that make it worth hiring mercs and doing the Elite farming thing. If they (FI pots) were more rare they would only be bought by SE hunters as the price would go even higher. I think the current mix allows SE hunters to get FI and others that want it to buy it on occasion too. Probably pretty good the way it is. If they need to lower the base drop rates of some things in the game so be it. But FI 1000 only seems overpowered against high original drop rates. Maybe Baron should have raw drop rate of 20% instead of 45%+ maybe not. But most things aren't dropping 100% even with FI 1000.
#13
fs_angiefc
Posted 03 July 2008 - 22:38
#14
fs_hxcrigo
Posted 03 July 2008 - 22:59
#15
fs_angiefc
Posted 03 July 2008 - 23:13
#16
fs_rulen
Posted 03 July 2008 - 23:17
The one thing that has made me chuckle about this a few times is that people keep calling this a gold sink, and yet I have a feeling if one were to look at the gold that goes into buying this item and the FSP/gold one can make from drops using this item ... there would have to be a profit there somewhere, in some noticible amount or people wouldn't continue to buy it or be able to afford continually buying it.
You make fsp/gold from other players not from the game. Hence it doesn't bring new gold into the game. It only takes gold out. If it was a lvl 1000 TH then yes it would bring more into the game.
#17
fs_rulen
Posted 03 July 2008 - 23:20
Player A buys The FI potion for 500k gold. Gets a baron drop. worth 35 fsp or 3.5million gold. Player B who has saved up all his gold now buys the baron drop for 3.5 million gold. note however that no gold has been brought into the game just an item. Player A has 3 million more gold than he did before, Player B has 3.5 million less what he had before thus. 500k has been sunk into the game. No gold was created. The definition of a gold sink.
#18
fs_ecolitan
Posted 03 July 2008 - 23:44
People that flame please look at the exchange between AngieFC and myself a few posts back. She made incorrect statement. I corrected it without being insulting. She acknowledged. No flame. No name calling. See, thread progressed from there nicely. Should happen more often.
Also, while Rulen is correct about it being a gold sink. That isn't, in itself, a reason to keep FI 1000 in the game if it's nerfing some other part of the game. With the exception of 2 SE's and the LE drop rates aren't out of whack. These can be addressed without taking away this potion. I can understand the reasoning behind the suggestion just don't think it would be right. In fact many of the higher level Elite, Champion, SE were devised with drop rates that take FI 1000 into account.
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