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Poll: Max lvl instead of max equip lvl??? (5 member(s) have cast votes)

Max lvl instead of max equip lvl???

  1. Yes (1 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  2. No (5 votes [83.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

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#1 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:31

I think there should be a max lvl not a max equip lvl since lvl 500's can join a lvl 65 max equip and then change gear.i dont think it is fair.

#2 Hoofmaster

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:40

It is fair.

#3 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:45

what is?i got killed by a lvl 500 in the PvP arena and the max equip lvl was like 20.

#4 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:45

It is fair.

i got dominated by a lvl 500.

#5 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:46

yeah i know but that isnt really fair.

#6 fs_karigulus

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:46

what is?i got killed by a lvl 500 in the PvP arena and the max equip lvl was like 20.


lvl 500 player can only enter with lvl 20 equipment, their level up points, Guild bonuses etc. do not count. Thus it is fair.

#7 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:47

yeah but they can change gear.someone entered with lvl 20 and changed to lvl 500.

#8 fs_karigulus

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:48

yeah but they can change gear.someone entered with lvl 20 and changed to lvl 500.


The lvl 20 gear they use is the stats they enter with, if they chamge to lvl 500 gear, it does NOT change the lvl 20 setup stats they used when they entered.

#9 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:49

well it did for him.he even said so.

#10 fs_karigulus

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:51

well it did for him.he even said so.


I am not here to yank your plank! What I say is true :wink:

#11 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:52

well somehow he changed them.i can get a pic in i dont know why.

#12 fs_karigulus

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:53

well somehow he changed them.i can get a pic in i dont know why.


I officially give up! :?

#13 fs_donbol2000

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:53

stop whining. you are the 9999999999999 person to post about it not being fair. Hoof and ALL the other admin have said repeatedly that the pvp is fair. If you were winning the level 65 tournaments, you would think it is fair also. There is no difference in you joining a level 20 tournament as a level 350 joining that same tournament. We all have the same equipment pool to draw our setups from. Just choose wisely what you wear in each tournament you join


a guess at the number of people to whine, but it seems that many

#14 Hoofmaster

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:54

well somehow he changed them.i can get a pic in i dont know why.


I officially give up! :?


I know how you feel :lol:

#15 fs_walker11

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 23:54

ok it would be fair cause i am that lvl.i am not trying to make anyone mad.just trying a poll jeez.

#16 fs_treeline

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 00:20

[quote name="Walker11"]I think there should be a max lvl not a max equip lvl since lvl 500's can join a lvl 65 max equip and then change gear.i dont think it is fair.[/quote]

congrats!

you are the one millionth person to post the same thing that apparently has no idea what they are talking about!

not all of the below go along with your particular misunderstanding but please read everything below to be sure you don't misunderstand something else fundemental about how the system works and post something else that has also been beaten to death.

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And here are your arena quotes

[quote name="GMC"][quote name="Demorgoth"]Of course someone like GMC thinks it's fair. Wearing 9 items, all FFed, all legendary, and none above L25. Since he's L198, he has no use for them beyond the arena, but as a result he can win a higher proportion of the L25 tournies. Basically, it's a 200 fsp entry fee.

Think of the arena like a car race. Sure, you can enter with any old vehicle, but you ain't gonna stand a chance against those sitting at the wheel of a formula 1 racing car[/quote]

why would you enter a race with an old vehicle if people are allowed to and do use formula 1 cars? You should go get yourself a formula 1 car like everyone else. :?

FFed, legendary items below the item level restriction aren't my birthright or anything. I went out and bought them just like everyone else. You can also go get them if you want to.

oh, and I hardly ever win. I bet I have entered 300 tournaments so far, and I've won, what? 12. Everyone is out there winning. go try harder and don't expect wins to be handed to you.[/quote]


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[quote name="treeline"]Everyone enters the arena with the exact same stats 1, 1, 1, 1, 10

The only equipment that is counted when you enter is equipment which is the level of the tournament or below

When you enter the tournament a "snapshot" is taken of your equipment so the stats are saved and can NOT be changed. [/quote]

[quote name="PVP FAQ"]Once you enter the tournament a snapshot of your equipment will be taken and your list of "combat moves". Hence you will not be able to change your arena stats or moves after it has been entered.[/quote]

[quote name="treeline"]
People frequently use one set for hunting and something different for pvp. This isn't any different for a level 15 player or a level 400 player. You need different stats to be successful in different areas of the game. So it really isn't that hard to figure out why people are changing their gear all the time.

Also if someone figures out a really good set for pvp, they don't want to give others the edge so they change them as fast as possible. This is called STRATEGY. it isn't taking advantage of anything. It is fair.

Now, I am really tired of seeing these threads. The system is well thought out and very fair.

Just because you aren't any good at it doesn't make it a bug

And is it really surprising that someone that has been playing and doing pvp of over a year knows how to come up with winning combinations better then you? I think not

So grow up, get on the fallenswordguide.com and work out what the best winning set is for the level you are competing in and stop whining.

here are your official quotes on the subject.

Please don't reopen other threads on this because I am not going to comment on them, they will just be locked.


http://forum.fallens... ... e&p=442965
[quote name="Hoofmaster"]There's a wide variety of equip level tournaments always running and with the combination of that and the combat moves, I really feel it is fair to all.

Sure you won't win them all, but be patience - try different item/move combinations and see what works for you.

Also as we add more and more moves, there should be more and more strategies to use to your advantage - we've much more to add to this ;)[/quote]

http://forum.fallens... ... ena#435831
[quote name="Hoofmaster"][quote name="orokashin1"]I just joined a level 25 tournament and all was going great, I was pwning other level 25's in one hit while 0only taking 1 damage in each fight, until I got in a fight with a level 341, I know he can only use level 25 armor but still, shouldn’t there be a level limit, im sure noone else here is complaining about this problem but I think it should be addressed.[/quote]

Their level is irrelevant though - they get the same choice of equipment as you and their level up points don't contribute what so ever.[/quote]


http://forum.fallens... ... ena#441996
[quote name="Hoofmaster"]We've no plans to add level restrictions as the 'max equip level' works just fine for this. If you don't understand how it works, read the guide on the Arena page :)[/quote]


http://forum.fallens... ... ena#435837
[quote name="Hoofmaster"][quote name="BajumA"]How its possible than in tournament to lvl 150 (I have 150lvl, baron set + mancrusha + decay rune), I loose with player with lvl 300+ and he had on him equipment from lvl 300+, I loose with hit 80+ dmg and loose all life? he didn’t have any extra hits bonus.[/quote]

No, they would have changed into lvl 150 equipment, entered, then switch back to their standard gear. The stats they obtained would be from level 150 equipment and under.

The level of the character entering is not relevant[/quote]

http://forum.fallens... ... ena#435837
[quote name="Hoofmaster"][quote name="lsrpm"]I bet you get tired of saying that :lol:[/quote]

I'm keeping count of how many times I have to repeat it 8) :lol:[/quote][/quote]

[quote name="treeline"][quote name="staraero"]Wish it could be made to wear higher level gear in the arena[/quote]

I wish I had a pony[/quote]

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