Super Elites
#1
Posted 03 September 2008 - 22:52
In order to see a SE, You have to buy a license. This would actually make you buy a license to have to find and kill it. Could be a nice gold sink.
1 day license
Cockatrice - 10,000 gold
Baron - 50,000 gold
Samurai - 75,000 gold
Steep Nojor - 150,000 gold
Malphas - 250,000 gold
Tri - 100,000 gold
Xindroth - 75,000 gold
2 week license
Cockatrice - 100,000 gold
Baron - 500,000 gold
Samurai - 750,000 gold
Steep Nojor - 1,500,000 gold
Malphas - 2,500,000 gold
Tri - 1,000,000 gold
Xindroth - 750,000 gold
This would actually make it to where you hunted the super elites and would actually let the hunters buy a license to hunt the super elites. Again, under the new system, you wouldnt even see a super elite if you didnt have an up to date license. Probably a bad idea, but it would prevent the buying and selling of locations(mostly) and would provide the game with a nice gold sink.
#2
fs_deciever11
Posted 03 September 2008 - 22:58
edit: and less SE items and possibly lower FSP prices
#3
fs_killer422
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:28
BAD IDEA
#4
fs_deciever11
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:29
now this is just stupid........whats the point of SE if only the hunters can find and kill them?wouldnt it be the point for a noob to train and walk around and find a SE and suddenly get fsp and get all happy?so you want the rich to get richer and noobs who doesnt know about SE to remain poor?
BAD IDEA
hey man chill u can still buy the items and if u really want to hunt it just costs gold no big deal
#5
fs_kevman
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:35
#6
fs_deciever11
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:38
#7
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:40
now this is just stupid........whats the point of SE if only the hunters can find and kill them?wouldnt it be the point for a noob to train and walk around and find a SE and suddenly get fsp and get all happy?so you want the rich to get richer and noobs who doesnt know about SE to remain poor?
BAD IDEA
whats the matter? You dont want to waste stamina hunting them yourself? the way the game was meant to be. Or is it the cost that hurts you? Please explain yourself?
PS. On a side note this can also keep many Noobs from de-leveling themselves on a Super Elite, plus they can still find a super elite (if they buy a license) Therefore technically they could still sell them. BTW, the point of a noob training is to level, not find a super elite and sell it for fsp. Most locations arent worth but a few fsp anyways. Only malphas has a decent price for location, steep and malphas are the only two left with a decent bonus for a drop. This would probably help the super elite hunters more than hurt them. Their items would be rarer and worth more, the medals would actually mean more, and it would eliminate the crappy super elite hunterwannabe's from the races. They are super elites and should be special, right now they are not that special.
#8
fs_killer422
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:51
now this is just stupid........whats the point of SE if only the hunters can find and kill them?wouldnt it be the point for a noob to train and walk around and find a SE and suddenly get fsp and get all happy?so you want the rich to get richer and noobs who doesnt know about SE to remain poor?
BAD IDEA
whats the matter? You dont want to waste stamina hunting them yourself? the way the game was meant to be. Or is it the cost that hurts you? Please explain yourself?
PS. On a side note this can also keep many Noobs from de-leveling themselves on a Super Elite, plus they can still find a super elite (if they buy a license) Therefore technically they could still sell them. BTW, the point of a noob training is to level, not find a super elite and sell it for fsp. Most locations arent worth but a few fsp anyways. Only malphas has a decent price for location, steep and malphas are the only two left with a decent bonus for a drop. This would probably help the super elite hunters more than hurt them. Their items would be rarer and worth more, the medals would actually mean more, and it would eliminate the crappy super elite hunterwannabe's from the races. They are super elites and should be special, right now they are not that special.
(cover mouths)
(run to the toliet)
(puke loudly)
(deep breathe,trying to calm down from anger)
so what you are saying is,a noobs life should be boring and 100% predictable.they train,they level and get tired of a daily rountine and get bored of the game and stop playing?so thats what you wanted?people to work day and night in the same boring few activies in a game only the higher levels can enjoy?
all players should have big or small chance of hitting the jackpot(for their level)and get happy once in awhile.why dont you suggestion a payment in order to be able to win the temple blessing or fsp draw?why not a payment if you want to win recruiter draw or anything that might help you in the game?or better,wouldnt it be nice to make it that only level 200+ players gets the access to fsp since noobs dont know how to use them anyways?
if is to prevent noobs from deleveling themselves without knowing what they are doing,maybe there can be a popup page when they try to attack a super elite,thats like"this creature is very rare and extremly diffcult to defeat even with strong attack groups.soloing it would be fatal and result in massive stamina loss,would you like to continoue?"be way better than not letting them sell the location!?!?!?!
just because they are low level and new to the game doesnt mean they are not allowed to earn fsp once in awhile and get happy.all you cared about is you or your SE hunting friends having a better shot at finding those SE
and what in the world is"crappy super elite hunterwannabe"?!?!?when i just started SE hunting,i wasnt valued at all and is always below the radar and not treated well at all.look at me now,im no crystal medal malphas hunter but i did earn a nice amount of fsp,got my bronze medal and had a great time.just because somebody just started and wanted to have fun doesnt mean they will never go big.if you think that way then this world shouldnt have babies because those"crappy adult wannabes"only cry and eat extra food.why dont we make a law and end the human world after a hundred years?
#9
fs_rulen
Posted 03 September 2008 - 23:53
this gets a definite no from me
#10
fs_dyrnuth
Posted 04 September 2008 - 01:29
#11
fs_killer422
Posted 04 September 2008 - 02:23
now this is just stupid........whats the point of SE if only the hunters can find and kill them?wouldnt it be the point for a noob to train and walk around and find a SE and suddenly get fsp and get all happy?so you want the rich to get richer and noobs who doesnt know about SE to remain poor?
BAD IDEA
whats the matter? You dont want to waste stamina hunting them yourself? the way the game was meant to be. Or is it the cost that hurts you? Please explain yourself?
PS. On a side note this can also keep many Noobs from de-leveling themselves on a Super Elite, plus they can still find a super elite (if they buy a license) Therefore technically they could still sell them. BTW, the point of a noob training is to level, not find a super elite and sell it for fsp. Most locations arent worth but a few fsp anyways. Only malphas has a decent price for location, steep and malphas are the only two left with a decent bonus for a drop. This would probably help the super elite hunters more than hurt them. Their items would be rarer and worth more, the medals would actually mean more, and it would eliminate the crappy super elite hunterwannabe's from the races. They are super elites and should be special, right now they are not that special.
(cover mouths)
(run to the toliet)
(puke loudly)
(deep breathe,trying to calm down from anger)
so what you are saying is,a noobs life should be boring and 100% predictable.they train,they level and get tired of a daily rountine and get bored of the game and stop playing?so thats what you wanted?people to work day and night in the same boring few activies in a game only the higher levels can enjoy?
all players should have big or small chance of hitting the jackpot(for their level)and get happy once in awhile.why dont you suggestion a payment in order to be able to win the temple blessing or fsp draw?why not a payment if you want to win recruiter draw or anything that might help you in the game?or better,wouldnt it be nice to make it that only level 200+ players gets the access to fsp since noobs dont know how to use them anyways?
if is to prevent noobs from deleveling themselves without knowing what they are doing,maybe there can be a popup page when they try to attack a super elite,thats like"this creature is very rare and extremly diffcult to defeat even with strong attack groups.soloing it would be fatal and result in massive stamina loss,would you like to continoue?"be way better than not letting them sell the location!?!?!?!
just because they are low level and new to the game doesnt mean they are not allowed to earn fsp once in awhile and get happy.all you cared about is you or your SE hunting friends having a better shot at finding those SE
and what in the world is"crappy super elite hunterwannabe"?!?!?when i just started SE hunting,i wasnt valued at all and is always below the radar and not treated well at all.look at me now,im no crystal medal malphas hunter but i did earn a nice amount of fsp,got my bronze medal and had a great time.just because somebody just started and wanted to have fun doesnt mean they will never go big.if you think that way then this world shouldnt have babies because those"crappy adult wannabes"only cry and eat extra food.why dont we make a law and end the human world after a hundred years?
just putting this post at the bottem to be viewed easily when DOA4LIFE comes back
#12
fs_theloneman
Posted 04 September 2008 - 02:27
#13
Posted 04 September 2008 - 03:07
They're endangered?Why exactly would I need a license to go hunt a great and powerful Baron?
Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!
#14
fs_ledfloyd
Posted 04 September 2008 - 03:33
Just my two cents...
#15
Posted 04 September 2008 - 04:52
#16
fs_dyrnuth
Posted 04 September 2008 - 05:17
Your SE hunter's license would take all that away...
#17
Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:25
now this is just stupid........whats the point of SE if only the hunters can find and kill them?wouldnt it be the point for a noob to train and walk around and find a SE and suddenly get fsp and get all happy?so you want the rich to get richer and noobs who doesnt know about SE to remain poor?
BAD IDEA
whats the matter? You dont want to waste stamina hunting them yourself? the way the game was meant to be. Or is it the cost that hurts you? Please explain yourself?
PS. On a side note this can also keep many Noobs from de-leveling themselves on a Super Elite, plus they can still find a super elite (if they buy a license) Therefore technically they could still sell them. BTW, the point of a noob training is to level, not find a super elite and sell it for fsp. Most locations arent worth but a few fsp anyways. Only malphas has a decent price for location, steep and malphas are the only two left with a decent bonus for a drop. This would probably help the super elite hunters more than hurt them. Their items would be rarer and worth more, the medals would actually mean more, and it would eliminate the crappy super elite hunterwannabe's from the races. They are super elites and should be special, right now they are not that special.
(cover mouths)
(run to the toliet)
(puke loudly)
(deep breathe,trying to calm down from anger)
so what you are saying is,a noobs life should be boring and 100% predictable.they train,they level and get tired of a daily rountine and get bored of the game and stop playing?so thats what you wanted?people to work day and night in the same boring few activies in a game only the higher levels can enjoy?
all players should have big or small chance of hitting the jackpot(for their level)and get happy once in awhile.why dont you suggestion a payment in order to be able to win the temple blessing or fsp draw?why not a payment if you want to win recruiter draw or anything that might help you in the game?or better,wouldnt it be nice to make it that only level 200+ players gets the access to fsp since noobs dont know how to use them anyways?
if is to prevent noobs from deleveling themselves without knowing what they are doing,maybe there can be a popup page when they try to attack a super elite,thats like"this creature is very rare and extremly diffcult to defeat even with strong attack groups.soloing it would be fatal and result in massive stamina loss,would you like to continoue?"be way better than not letting them sell the location!?!?!?!
just because they are low level and new to the game doesnt mean they are not allowed to earn fsp once in awhile and get happy.all you cared about is you or your SE hunting friends having a better shot at finding those SE
and what in the world is"crappy super elite hunterwannabe"?!?!?when i just started SE hunting,i wasnt valued at all and is always below the radar and not treated well at all.look at me now,im no crystal medal malphas hunter but i did earn a nice amount of fsp,got my bronze medal and had a great time.just because somebody just started and wanted to have fun doesnt mean they will never go big.if you think that way then this world shouldnt have babies because those"crappy adult wannabes"only cry and eat extra food.why dont we make a law and end the human world after a hundred years?
just putting this post at the bottem to be viewed easily when DOA4LIFE comes back
You sound like the typical SE hunter, I dont hunt them myself, not really any friends that hunt them, got a guildmate that trys but with not much luck.
As for your comparisons and attitude, I think I may submit a ticket to make sure your not a multi of Big Blue Dog, you two are about the same.
It was an idea to help generate a gold sink into the game while making something challenging. Yes it would be taking away the "jackpot" to noobs, however most just see them and get deleveled or sell them to 3-4 players.
As for wannabe super elite hunters, I never named you, but it seems you are starting to fit the bill, Super "elite" hunters should be the top of the game. So there goes your human world theory or whatever crap you were spewing.
as for the game being predicatable, really how unpredictable can it get? everyone levels the same way, just seems most hunters dont like this idea because of the money involved. What ever happened to the sport? Now you all have proven that its all about the money more than anything else.
It is also clear that by bumping your post you were in effect looking for an argument, well im tired of arguing and this will be my last post on the issue, regardless of whatever retarded or smirk comments you make.
ITS AN IDEA PEOPLE,
Please, killer422, Dont ever breed. Thanks.
PS. Noobs earned fsp in other ways before super elite hunting making your main point moot, I also stated they could buy a 1 day license if they really wanted to look for the locations. Clearly you couldnt read that from being as all the greed you just saw. Its also funny that you would get upset over a simple idea that hasnt even been implemented yet. HAHA, Im out until people who actually want to talk (not throw tantrums) actually want to discuss the issue.
#18
Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:41
What this suggestion would actually do is increase the price of superelite equipment, that's all
Cause to be honest I wouldn't pay anything for a license since i'm not a superelite hunter. Also what are the odds when only leveling up that you actually see a superelite creature?
So far I've only met two superelites. One sold since no mercs and not high enough people available that time, other one killed myself.
This also has got some feel of a donator game to me.
Pay that amount of money or never see a superelite creature.
If you really would want this implemented make it so that you have got to have a license to kill it, not to see it. However I don't like that either.
#19
Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:58
I don't see the use actually of this either.
What this suggestion would actually do is increase the price of superelite equipment, that's all
Cause to be honest I wouldn't pay anything for a license since i'm not a superelite hunter. Also what are the odds when only leveling up that you actually see a superelite creature?
So far I've only met two superelites. One sold since no mercs and not high enough people available that time, other one killed myself.
This also has got some feel of a donator game to me.
Pay that amount of money or never see a superelite creature.
If you really would want this implemented make it so that you have got to have a license to kill it, not to see it. However I don't like that either.
yeah, I can understand that, however the idea behind this is to actually make people "hunt" the creature and not buy it, if lower levels can still see the creature they can still sell it, therefore the hunters just buy the location and not actually hunt it. Im not to keen on guided hunts where the animal is released in front of me for slaughter, Not being able to see it was the only idea I had to keep the locations from being sold, again a true "hunter" will find his kills himself. Not pay someone else money to turn a creep out of a box in front of them so that they can kill it. The license would act as a gold sink, something of which people are always saying we need more of. Therefore the idea came to mind, I also figured the super elite hunters would like the "sport" of this idea, but I forgot its all about the gold/fsp in this game.
#20
Posted 04 September 2008 - 13:16
1) SE Hunters don't want to waste stamina running around, hunting, when there is little chance of finding the SE first. They want an easy medal and easy FSP from SOME of the drops. This does not apply to everyone, but is the only realistic way of getting the silver, gold and crystal medals in a short timespan!
2) Some people from both sides argue that new players may benefit from the jackpot of FSP from selling a location. From my experience finding a Super Elite was rare, and selling to the winning hunter rarer still. (I have told three locations to top hunters, yet been beaten to the prize, so this obviously happens!)
3) 'Purists' regard buying locations as cheating, and want the thrill to come from the hunt itself - make it harder, but make the rewards more worthwhile.
I personally disagree with the licensing idea in this post. However, I do find the medal for 'hunting' slightly ironic when the person who found the creature often ends up with 15 FSP, whilst someone sitting on a portal gets the kudos for the kill - maybe SE Killer would be a better name?
As I say, I side with the purists in terms of opinion, but can't see a way of solving the problem that suits all parties - the SE location buyer lobby is too strong. I think the status quo will have to be maintained, and accepted.
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