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Poll: Which do you think is correct? (32 member(s) have cast votes)

Which do you think is correct?

  1. The members belong to the guild (13 votes [31.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.71%

  2. The guild belongs to the members (14 votes [34.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.15%

  3. This has flame war potential (14 votes [34.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.15%

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#1 DarthViper

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:06

I was wondering what people thought about this. Do the members belong to the guild, or does the guild belong to the members?

Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!


#2 fs_dsjupiter

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:10

hmmmm good question, im not shure what my opinion is on it, but this might have flame war in the making

#3 DarthViper

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:11

hmmmm good question, im not shure what my opinion is on it, but this might have flame war in the making


It is a good question. That why I asked it. :wink:

Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!


#4 fs_dsjupiter

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:14

id have to say a little of bolth, because members can come and go, but the guild stays...

#5 fs_ananasii

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:20

There can be no guild without members.
You cannot be a guild member without a guild.
Each relies on the other exist.



(Of course the real answer is neither - both belong to HCS)

#6 fs_tinkie

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:21

This is along the lines of ... which came first the chicken or the egg?

A guild is nothing without its members.

Yet I feel that possession is a touchy subject.

#7 fs_nthnclls

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:23

Neither. The members ARE the guild. There is no way to "own" yourself. imo.

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:26

This is along the lines of ... which came first the chicken or the egg?

A guild is nothing without its members.

Yet I feel that possession is a touchy subject.


thats what i was thinkin, but wouldnt the rooster have to be in there somewhere??? other wise the egg wouldnt hatch ;)

#9 DarthViper

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:27

Neither. The members ARE the guild. There is no way to "own" yourself. imo.


structures, upgrades, guild locked items, those are all part of a guild, also.

Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!


#10 fs_thristle

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:29

the egg came first... :roll:

*hint*dinosaurs*hint*

dinosaurs evolved into chickens, but the egg was always there

#11 DarthViper

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:31

the egg came first... :roll:

*hint*dinosaurs*hint*

dinosaurs evolved into chickens, but the egg was always there


But what is the egg? The members or the guild?

Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!


#12 fs_dsjupiter

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:34

the egg came first... :roll:

*hint*dinosaurs*hint*

dinosaurs evolved into chickens, but the egg was always there


But what is the egg? The members or the guild?


wheres the rooster?!?!?! he has to do his part...

#13 fs_ananasii

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:37

the egg came first... :roll:

*hint*dinosaurs*hint*

dinosaurs evolved into chickens, but the egg was always there


But what is the egg? The members or the guild?


wheres the rooster?!?!?! he has to do his part...


I guess the Guild Founder is the rooster (but he/she is a Hen as well - wow Guild Founders are Hermaphrodite Chickens!!!)

#14 fs_toc13

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:38

Try creating a guild with no members & no founder.
Following from that, the guild belongs to the members- it is something they create.

#15 fs_dsjupiter

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 00:49

the egg came first... :roll:

*hint*dinosaurs*hint*

dinosaurs evolved into chickens, but the egg was always there


But what is the egg? The members or the guild?


wheres the rooster?!?!?! he has to do his part...


I guess the Guild Founder is the rooster (but he/she is a Hen as well - wow Guild Founders are Hermaphrodite Chickens!!!)


:shock: :shock: is this true????

#16 fs_stickisgod

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 01:21

...There is no way to "own" yourself. imo.


I own myself and can sell myself to whoever for whatever price I choose...Actually, I guess it's more like renting myself! :P

#17 DarthViper

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 02:15

the egg came first... :roll:

*hint*dinosaurs*hint*

dinosaurs evolved into chickens, but the egg was always there


But what is the egg? The members or the guild?


wheres the rooster?!?!?! he has to do his part...


I guess the Guild Founder is the rooster (but he/she is a Hen as well - wow Guild Founders are Hermaphrodite Chickens!!!)


:shock: :shock: is this true????


I hope not! :shock:

Did you know that there are likely over 2000 rouge black holes in our galaxy alone. Each of them can reach very high speeds, even in space terms, are each capable of destroying anything in their path, and are invisible. Well, goodnight!


#18 KitiaraLi

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 05:19

All th jokes aside, the guild belongs to the members, and the members belong to the guild.. to a certain degree.

A guild is only as good as it's members, but many players depend on their guilds to become good.

And yes, it does all come down to the founder. She/he/it can kick any member, making them not belong to the guild - but can also make the guild belong to the members in the way she/he/it runs the guild.

What came first? Well - depends on which guild Ure talking about. Sum guilds have been created by a handful of friends, and it that case - the players are b4 the guild. In most cases though, the guild is first...

To sum up - U will nvr get a clear answer, and I am very ranty when I just rolled outta bed.

No one can deny that we changed this game and influenced it in such a way that NO ONE could compete with us.. so much so that they changed the rules. ~Abhorrence, chosen founder of Cerulean Sins


#19 fs_theloneman

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 05:46

Do the members belong to the guild? Or the guild belong to the members?

Do the members belong to the guild? The members do not belong to the guild, they come and go as they please. While the members are there it is evident that anyone beyond the guild founder/people with the same power as a guild founder is little more then an asset to the guild. However members "belong" to the guild in a sense that they are currently in the guild.

Does the guild belong to the members? Nope the guild does not belong to the members, except for perhaps the guild founder or people with same power.

I see the guild founder as more then a member of the guild, lets call him the "special" member. (sorry OT :D )

Now when the guild founder creates a guild it is in fact a separate entity, yet an entity that the guild founder has complete control over. (I guess, I never finalized plans to make one)

Therefore the only member that belongs to the guild is the one who has complete control over it because the guild belongs to him.

Or perhaps you mean does the guild exist to benefit the members, or do the members exist to benefit the guild? Well in this case I'd say its whatever contract you signed when you entered the guild.

#20 EJames2100

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 07:27

Both in a way


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