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#1 Sadiablo

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 20:55

How much damage is this suppose to absorb from an attack when used?

I was out in the forest earlier, and used a couple omniblast vials and the persons shield absorbed over 100k+ of their damage and then some, every single time. I know the shield absorbs a certain percentage of damage, but 80%+ it seems like? thats crazy!


(BTW Sorry Gotweed!)

Here are the logs from it:


20:36 03/04/07
You successfully cast Omni-Blast.
You hit Gotweed (1,7) for 5000 HP and killed them. (98% resistance) (No Specials)
Damaged Whitefire187 (1,7) for 3000 HP. (98% resistance) (No Specials) (Angelic Shield absorbed 100000 damage.)

20:36 03/04/07
You cannot currently gain any PvP rating from Gotweed as you have killed them previously (within 3 days).

20:36 03/04/07
You drank 1 x Vial of Omni-Blast

20:36 03/04/07
You successfully cast Dark Phaze.
Teleported successfully to (1,7).
You gained 28 Dark Phaze casting exp. (x2 Mage Class Bonus)

20:35 03/04/07
Gotweed cast a big bag of weed at you, causing 1959 damage which killed you. (No Specials)

20:35 03/04/07
Your Cult PvP Rating has decreased by 24.

20:35 03/04/07
Your PvP Rating has decreased by 24.

20:35 03/04/07
You pickup 6141 gp

20:35 03/04/07
You pickup 5 platinum

20:35 03/04/07
You successfully cast Omni-Blast.
You hit Whitefire187 (1,7) for 31320 HP and killed them. (78.4% resistance) (No Specials) (Angelic Shield absorbed 105000 damage.)

20:35 03/04/07
Your Cult PvP Rating has increased by 25.

20:35 03/04/07
Your PvP Rating has increased by 25.

20:35 03/04/07
You drank 1 x Vial of Omni-Blast

20:34 03/04/07
You successfully cast Omni-Blast.
You hit Gotweed (1,7) for 54000 HP and killed them. (78.4% resistance) (No Specials)
Damaged Whitefire187 (1,7) for 2750 HP. (98% resistance) (No Specials) (Angelic Shield absorbed 112500 damage.)

20:34 03/04/07
You cannot currently gain any PvP rating from Gotweed as you have killed them previously (within 3 days).

20:34 03/04/07
You drank 1 x Vial of Omni-Blast

20:34 03/04/07
You successfully cast Dark Phaze.
Teleported successfully to (1,7).
You gained 14 Dark Phaze casting exp. (x2 Mage Class Bonus)

20:34 03/04/07
Whitefire187 cast What you thought I would just stand here, causing 21131 damage which killed you. (Overcharge)

20:34 03/04/07
Your Cult PvP Rating has decreased by 11.

20:34 03/04/07
Your PvP Rating has decreased by 12.

20:34 03/04/07
You successfully cast Omni-Blast.
You hit Gotweed (1,7) for 5000 HP and killed them. (98% resistance) (No Specials)
Damaged Whitefire187 (1,7) for 3000 HP. (98% resistance) (No Specials) (Angelic Shield absorbed 100000 damage.)

20:34 03/04/07
Your Cult PvP Rating has increased by 11.

20:34 03/04/07
Your PvP Rating has increased by 24.

20:34 03/04/07
You drank 1 x Vial of Omni-Blast
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#2 Anomander Rake

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 22:44

Angelic Shield is supposed to reduce Damage taken by an AVERAGE of 33% - but what the upper and lower limits are i don't know

#3 Sadiablo

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 02:45

dang, 33% or so isnt bad at all I dont think. but doesnt that seem crazy when you use an omniblast vial thats suppose to do 200,000 dmg and the shield soaks up over 100,000?

Wheres skellagrim to figure the math out on it :?: :lol:
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#4 lasciel

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 03:13

Hoof made it 33% static - only thing with that is a "logging" issue really from the looks of it. You did 5k damage to Gotweed at 98% res without the shield, and 3k damage to Whitefire at 98% res with the shield...looks like it's kinda working the way it should be, even though I'm not gonna bother with the exact math of it.

#5 Debrutsid

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 04:44

Hoof made it 33% static - only thing with that is a "logging" issue really from the looks of it. You did 5k damage to Gotweed at 98% res without the shield, and 3k damage to Whitefire at 98% res with the shield...looks like it's kinda working the way it should be, even though I'm not gonna bother with the exact math of it.


*Pulls out calculator*

Err... the damage, after 33% absorb AND 98% resistance, should only be around 2680.

I think he should be glad :lol:


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Posted 04 April 2007 - 04:50

Hoof made it 33% static - only thing with that is a "logging" issue really from the looks of it. You did 5k damage to Gotweed at 98% res without the shield, and 3k damage to Whitefire at 98% res with the shield...looks like it's kinda working the way it should be, even though I'm not gonna bother with the exact math of it.


*Pulls out calculator*

Err... the damage, after 33% absorb AND 98% resistance, should only be around 2680.

I think he should be glad :lol:


close enough though to show that the angelic shield was working how it was supposed to.

#7 Sadiablo

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 05:07

Ah alright, that makes a little more sense now. It just looked odd with saying that angelic shield absorbed 100k+ dmg.

Which just at a glance, if the vial does 200k dmg, then absorbing 100k+ is 50% right there right?
And then the 100k dmg that was left of course gets negated alot by the 98% resists. I am thankful for the damages I DID get, I was just curious about why it looked like the shield was soaking up 50% + of the vials dmg total.

200,000 dmg Divided by 33% says it should be 66,000 right? So it may just be a logging issue. I think if it said I used a vial and the shield absorbed 66k dmg, and then I did 4k dmg to them (98% resist) I would have figured their spell protects would have soaked up all the dmg,

But just seeing the 100k + absorbed by the shield kinda threw me off.

Thank you Val and Sain

(just added it all up. 200,000 dmg - 98% = 196000) Daaaaang that makes omniblast vials fizzle away :shock:
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#8 Debrutsid

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 07:24

Ah alright, that makes a little more sense now. It just looked odd with saying that angelic shield absorbed 100k+ dmg.

Which just at a glance, if the vial does 200k dmg, then absorbing 100k+ is 50% right there right?
And then the 100k dmg that was left of course gets negated alot by the 98% resists. I am thankful for the damages I DID get, I was just curious about why it looked like the shield was soaking up 50% + of the vials dmg total.

200,000 dmg Divided by 33% says it should be 66,000 right? So it may just be a logging issue. I think if it said I used a vial and the shield absorbed 66k dmg, and then I did 4k dmg to them (98% resist) I would have figured their spell protects would have soaked up all the dmg,

But just seeing the 100k + absorbed by the shield kinda threw me off.

Thank you Val and Sain

(just added it all up. 200,000 dmg - 98% = 196000) Daaaaang that makes omniblast vials fizzle away :shock:


Ok, now I'M confused o_O

If you SHOULD only be doing 2680 damage, why is it normal that you're doing 3-5k?

And what the heck do you mean "Logging issue"? o_O


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Posted 05 April 2007 - 02:50

Ah alright, that makes a little more sense now. It just looked odd with saying that angelic shield absorbed 100k+ dmg.

Which just at a glance, if the vial does 200k dmg, then absorbing 100k+ is 50% right there right?
And then the 100k dmg that was left of course gets negated alot by the 98% resists. I am thankful for the damages I DID get, I was just curious about why it looked like the shield was soaking up 50% + of the vials dmg total.

200,000 dmg Divided by 33% says it should be 66,000 right? So it may just be a logging issue. I think if it said I used a vial and the shield absorbed 66k dmg, and then I did 4k dmg to them (98% resist) I would have figured their spell protects would have soaked up all the dmg,

But just seeing the 100k + absorbed by the shield kinda threw me off.

Thank you Val and Sain

(just added it all up. 200,000 dmg - 98% = 196000) Daaaaang that makes omniblast vials fizzle away :shock:


Ok, now I'M confused o_O

If you SHOULD only be doing 2680 damage, why is it normal that you're doing 3-5k?

And what the heck do you mean "Logging issue"? o_O





Because....... The Dmg for the Vial is 200,000 Correct? Now if you noticed, it said angelic shield was absorbing 100,000+ of the damage. which is 50% at the least. Angelic shield is suppose to absorb 33% of the damage or thereabouts from what everyone is saying. So that means an extra 17-20% of the Omniblast vial is fizzling off somewhere else.

And what I meant by logging issue is that if it said xxx spell resistance of 98% absorbed 100,000 dmg and then the angelic shield absorbed 33% on top of that thats fine, but saying that Angelic shield ALONE absorbed over 50% of the vials damage says one of a few things,

A) There is a bug and the shield is sapping up 17- 20% more damage than it should

B) there is a problem with Omniblast vials and how it affects victims

C) Damages are being displayed incorrectly, IE: Angelic shield absorbing 50% of the omniblast vials damage when 33% (quoted absorbtion ratio) would only be 66,000 dmg or thereabouts.

Because just from what logs say, the shield absorbed 100 - 112k dmg on average, And thats 50% of the vials potential. Angelic shield doesnt absorb 50% does it? If yes then everything is perfectly fine, if no? Then why is the log saying it absorbed 100- 112k of the 200k dmg ?


There are quite a few people that have had questions or complaints about omniblast vials lately, problems with their damages, problems with them even working. All kinds of issues with them. I was just curious for myself why it doesnt look (at least) like its doing the ammt of dmg that its suppose to.
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#10 Debrutsid

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Posted 05 April 2007 - 03:51

Oooh, I guess I took your previous post as "Oh, ok I understand, everything's working as it should".

*Waggles finger at omni-bish vial* Bad vial, work right and kill everyone :evil:

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Posted 05 April 2007 - 04:38

idk why ur saying sry to me, it was pvp, it's either kill or be killed, if u hadn't hit me, i was going to atk u.... but yeah it does look like angelic shield worked correctly

#12 Sadiablo

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Posted 05 April 2007 - 05:43

Well, I was saying sorry to you that you got mixed up there in that. I was not intending to kill you off, I was there chasing other people but you got blasted with the vials right along side of them. :lol:

I think I understand it all really, I am just terrible at math I know. But the text saying that the shield absorbed half of the vials damage total potential looked weird.

Like I mentioned, if it said "You hit xxx for 3,000 dmg. 98% spell resist, angelic shield absorbed 66,000 dmg" it would look perfectly logical to me. I would figure that the spell resists negated all but 69,000 dmg and their shield absorbed 66,000 leaving me with only 3,000 left to inflict on them.

But seeing it say the shield itself absorbed over half of what the vial damage is looked weird. :?

Ah well, thank you for the answers anyways :D
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