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#101 fs_oderous

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:00

I like the idea. So would the scavengers specialize in different items i.e resource,weapon,spell,potion.

#102 winemaker

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:02

we should get more Mercenaries frist though...that would sink alot of gold out and maybe some smaller guild might get a chance of getting a half way decent one once...so plz more Mercenaries...its what we have been asking for for just about a year now....

#103 fs_lippyck

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:03

Good idea! I like that reserve stam part! :wink:

#104 Kossy

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:06

yes this sound very nice :)

#105 Cathbadh

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:09

Hmmm.. not sure about this..as Dagany pointed out, this does sound is a bit like bidding at the AH for an item you want that someone else has located.. except you are bidding on the proverbial 'pig in a poke'.. you have no idea what you are going to get.. which would mean unless there are some really interesting items in the scavengers bag (either new or already in game) this is likely to be a very short lived gold sink.. I liked the gold sink idea Sky Wizard mentioned.. personal structures but cost you gold per hour to maintain 24/7/365.. look into my eyes Hoof, look into my eyes.. not around the eyes, look into my eyes,.. pets.. peeehts...pets!.. 3..2..1.. you are back in the room...

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#106 EJames2100

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:09

Yes Sweeet

#107 fs_revflyer

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:15

It's an interesting idea, but whether it's good or bad depends totally on how you implement it in my opinion, and whether you change something that makes it different from the existing options. Two determinants:

1. The value to the player of what the scavengers can get you, and whether you can get the same item from other sources (AH, stores, creatures), or whether these items are exclusive to the scavengers.

2. The probability of getting the item that you requested, how it varies based on how much you pay , and whether the item is valuable enough for the player to sink gold in multiple tries (like inventing).

As the game has lottery, AH special section, and inventing, I don't see scavenging as somethng new. At the end of the day people will scavenge only if they can get items through scavenging that they cannot get through the other channels, of if they can get them cheaper or with less pain than through the other channels.

So actually, you could accomplish the same effect by adding new cool expensive items/potions to inventing or AH. Having said that, it's an interesting variant to add diversity to the game (some people prefer inventing, others AH sniping, other may like scavenging better). But I don't think it'll be a a better gold sink than the AH potions.

A related idea would be to create a market for Player Scavengers. You could create a reverse market in which players post what they are willing to buy and for how much gold (like you did with the FSPs) (i.e. plants, items, potions, etc). You could make it in gold and you could add a gold fee. This will lead player scavengers to see what items are most demanded and scavenge for those. Once the finders gets them (through quests, hunting, stores, inventing) they can sell them to the requestors. This could create a lot of add'l commerce. Also players would buy upgrades to be able to post more requests in this market.

#108 fs_ecofrog

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:28

Don't love it.

Essentially there is a gold problem. We all know it... We need to get rid of gold.

BUT

I would hate for the scavengers to find items. That just creates an item problem. The PvP arena does that for items already (which is only one of the numerous problems with the arena).

The advantage of the scavenger idea (unlike the PvP thing) is that it is not stacked towards more advanced/richer players/guilds. We all know theat is the problem of the PvP arena. Get the best sets, FF and then just work the odds. Nothing to it. Since the price of items falls as the market floods, the PvP gets less and less worthwhile anyway and as more and more players approach the optimal strategy it becomes a lottery. The scavengers will do the same thing if they find items... flood the item market, drive down the price of items, or in order to attract people game breaking items/potions etc would be added. All bad.

So anyway, the best idea would be to allow people to dump gold for stamina via the scavengers. If there was an approximate return on stamina of say 25 stamina for 100K gold that would re-fix the price of an FSP down to 100K... (when the cap was removed the ineveitable rise began)... Whatever the approximate return on this investment in scavengers in terms of 25 stamina units will become the new range for FSP prices... it would be easy to reduce the price with reserve stamina if the expected return was like 25 stamina for 75K we would watch a lot of FSPs become avaialbe instead of being sunk out of the game.

But please god no to the item flood and overpowered potions...

#109 fs_elektro7

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:31

This is an amazing idea, no ones missing out (its available to all players, no matter level and gold posessed) great gold sink, and a HUGE incentive (reserve stamina) making it an almost omnipotent gold sink.

#110 fs_k00lb1rd67

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:36

I like it :D

#111 fs_ecofrog

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:37

just stick to reserve stamina (a good idea) ... the items are a terrible idea....

instead of scavengers (how does one find reserve stamina exactly anyway?), why not just allow for the invention of potions of stamina. the more gold you pour in the more stamina is created. That might be fun...

#112 fs_tyson1397

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:37

Nice like it:)

#113 rhann123

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:40

just stick to reserve stamina (a good idea) ... the items are a terrible idea....

instead of scavengers (how does one find reserve stamina exactly anyway?), why not just allow for the invention of potions of stamina. the more gold you pour in the more stamina is created. That might be fun...



Not a bad idea. But this still faver's the "richer" players and also the higher level's because they get more gold. So still pretty unfear. But other than that i like your idea :-D

#114 fs_playdd

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:44

I really like the idea... but as many other might have said already, the items must be worth while, because like with the arena, things like the Tri items are really not worth anything these days even if you guys might think they are.

Yes... you should get different items but please let the good once really be good. And things like potions of a 1000 lvl like the cake you gave us for the b-day will also be great... also, the extra stam will make alot of us really send out our scavangers.

As i said... i like the idea, and can't wait for you to implement it... but just try to make it a bit more fair then most of the other things in FS.

#115 fs_theloneman

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:51

and then when the scavengers don't cough up the item we can kill them and take the item!

Just put it in Hoof, the thinking power of tens of thousands players isn't as great as the power of the FS team..so ya go for it!

#116 fs_deciever11

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 22:52

great idea i support this.

#117 Morgwyn

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 23:05

if chances are to low that u get a good/valuable item with this, then there is no way this will work.
people want to get rid of their gold but not just throw it away, u need to give something in return, preferably something that gets used up and disappears. (potion is a good example).

if it does not meet that criteria, then do not bother.

#118 Necra

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 23:14

sounds fun as heck, i 2nd it also

#119 fs_mccoyn

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 23:28

GRRREEAT.. idea lets do it

#120 fs_nesera

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 23:42

me likey


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