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#1 Dark Archon

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 17:48

We have currently Active, Temp. Suspension, and Banned.

Why not add a Frozen status. That way people who did nothing wrong, but deceased from playing the game can be honored, and furthermore not dishonored by other players.

Any passed on players would relieve this status along with players who later fit this condition. These players would not be attackable in PvP, and the account would be locked from login similar to the way a banned account would be. However, the player's profile page would be viewable by anyone else. They would keep any contributed exp they gave to their guild. And have everything they had as an active player on their profile.

Anytime I see a player who was deceased in real life, and have "This players account has been terminated." written on their profile page, I feel bad, because that person did nothing wrong to get terminated. So it shouldn't say that on their page.

Perhaps add a line under the account's name and above the guild rank area, saying "This player has passed on from the game."

Also, if a person wanted to, via support, they could request this status when (if) they retired from the game, but this would be an irreversible move.

Ps. The line "This players account has been terminated." should have been, "This player's account has been terminated." Player is the noun, and account is an object in the player's possession. Where as players is the plural form of the noun player.
Furthermore, I am aware suggestions of this nature have been made before, it angers me that it has yet to be implemented.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 17:58

I like the idea. I agree completely, why should a player who has died in real life have their account terminated. I like the idea that we have a frozen status so that it respects those who have passed on.

As far as allowing anyone to submit a ticket to have it done. I'm not sure. I think that maybe if they do have a frozen status it should be for only those who have actually passed on.

#3 Dark Archon

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 18:18

Thanks rulen, and yes, that is understandable.

That last part about the request, is nowhere near as important as the rest of the suggestion to me. I could care less if the status could be requested on terms of a player wanting to retire, I just thought I'd throw it out there.

But please, HCS, don't put that terminated label on the deceased. In my opinion, it is dishonoring to them (as they did nothing to break the game's rules or get banned, therefore, they should not carry that label).

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 18:20

Yeah, i like this alot, it seems a bit in bad taste to have a deceased player labeled as "terminated"

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 19:58

I wholeheartedly agree.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 21:08

100% agree with DA on this. I have a player in my guild BillysKids who passed away in March of 2008 from a rare form of Cancer and to have his account terminated and especially have it show up that way on the guild member roster to me is disrespecting the player and what he worked for before he passed on.

Isn't there a way for you guys to go in and change the password after receiving legal proof that the player is deceased?

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 21:45

I agree with this immensely. I hate seeing an old friend being insulted and disgraced with termination.

Only problem with this would be that HCS would again ask for a proof of death or something to that nature and since we are more sensible than to call up grieved family members and ask them for a copy of a proof of death so that we can do something on an online game, I doubt it would be a very beneficial addition, not because of the idea itself, but because of the way HCS would most likely police it.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 21:58

I'd prefer to see deceased players accounts locked rather than terminated too...

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 22:00

I agree with this immensely. I hate seeing an old friend being insulted and disgraced with termination.

Only problem with this would be that HCS would again ask for a proof of death or something to that nature and since we are more sensible than to call up grieved family members and ask them for a copy of a proof of death so that we can do something on an online game, I doubt it would be a very beneficial addition, not because of the idea itself, but because of the way HCS would most likely police it.

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in answer to this..I wonder if an obituary would suffice? I've been wondering that. Most papers (even in small towns) publish the obituaries online..if you know the name/location of the member it wouldn't be hard to find and submit the link yourself, without causing any grief for the family of the deceased.

#10 fs_k00lb1rd67

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 23:05

Defintiely Yes! Great idea :)

#11 Cyssero89

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 23:07

I agree completely, there are players, who dedicate alot of time ( and sometimes money ) pass unexpectedly, and have their accounts Term'd

HCS, think about it.. is that really fair?

#12 Dark Archon

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 00:26

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

Kigga brings up an interesting point.
All I can say is someone who plays is bound to figure out in order to have HCS know at all. When that person figures out, if they know the person they can send HCS an obituary posting, assuming it is posted online. And hopefully that person doesn't have to be a family member. The idea of a family member having to confirm that the player died in order for this to happen is pretty grim in my point of view. :\

#13 DarthViper

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:29

Yes please. I have an ex-guildie who is deceased who hasn't yet had his account terminated, and I would see it as disrespectful to him if HCS terminated it, or any other account of a deceased player.

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 03:53

I love this idea. I would tell you what I love about it and why, but I'd just be repeating the original post.

So yes, if people have passed the game already honor them, but don't terminate the account, just freeze it. Maybe even make a cool set to wear. That way if they had Guild Tagged stuff it can be used by the guild and the player isn't naked.

#15 fs_mags

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 03:54

all for the 'freeze' status. excellent suggestion!

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 06:21

I fully agree both as a guild founder who would be really upset seeing a friend pass away and then labeled as "terminated" and as a player who found it distasteful to see a deceased player "terminated"

I also had the same thought as tt and said as much to someone days ago, an obituary should suffice, I live in BFE, Wyoming and both of our funeral homes and our local news paper post Obituaries, surely that would suffice as proof of death...

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 18:52

I support this idea as well. And I would also hoe that an obit would serve as sufficient proof of death, though knowing legal wrangling, they may want the death certificate so that they have ~legal~ proof, since sometimes obits are published in error. BUT having said that, if any obit is online for a month after a person has passed, I'd say it's a pretty legit form of proof, since I would assume erroneous obits would have been taken down within that timeframe.

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 19:27

I love this idea. I would tell you what I love about it and why, but I'd just be repeating the original post.

So yes, if people have passed the game already honor them, but don't terminate the account, just freeze it. Maybe even make a cool set to wear. That way if they had Guild Tagged stuff it can be used by the guild and the player isn't naked.


+1

(Memorial Kit or something) should be non-religious though as you can“t take for granted that all people are believers.

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 02:04

i whole harted agree with this - i would also would like to see a form of guild lock on these kind of players so if its frozen they can be permitly stuck in the guilds there in unless a guild founder request that these players be moved to anouther guild if they want to get new members

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 03:50

I agree with this immensely. I hate seeing an old friend being insulted and disgraced with termination.

Only problem with this would be that HCS would again ask for a proof of death or something to that nature and since we are more sensible than to call up grieved family members and ask them for a copy of a proof of death so that we can do something on an online game, I doubt it would be a very beneficial addition, not because of the idea itself, but because of the way HCS would most likely police it.


I agree.

I also lost a dear friend in FS. Asking the grieving family for the death certificate for a game purpose can come out rude. There has to be another way that HCS would let guild mates account for a players death without inconveniencing the player's family - and at the same time avoiding "cheaters"


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