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#1 Dark Archon

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:10

What I am suggesting is a preference. If set, this preference will automatically hide all bio's by default (both guild and player bio's). Instead of showing the bio's it will show a text link, saying something like "[show bio]". If clicked upon, the link will disappear, and be replaced with the bio.
Working demo: http://d4rk4rch0n.aw...suggestion.html

#2 cyrus7

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:14

preference = yes!
content of your example = song for DA's current mood?
*huggles DA*

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:15

What would the point be...? if u don't want to read someones bio don't if you do then read it....

#4 Dark Archon

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:16

preference = yes!
content of your example = DA's current mood?
*huggles DA*

Not at all... Current song instead:
UnderØATH - Their Only Chasing Safety - It's Dangerous Business Walking Out Your Front Door.

Glad that you like the idea. (At least I think you do o.o).

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:17

its a shame the people who code the fshelper stole your idea from your last thread. probably stole your code too....

#6 cyrus7

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:17

preference = yes!
content of your example = DA's current mood?
*huggles DA*

Not at all... Current song instead:
UnderØATH - Their Only Chasing Safety - It's Dangerous Business Walking Out Your Front Door.

Glad that you like the idea. (At least I think you do o.o).

Yeah I figured out quickly that it is a song. ;) And even googled and found it. :P Then modified my post a bit... all before you replied! :lol:

#7 Dark Archon

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:18

What would the point be...? if u don't want to read someones bio don't if you do then read it....

And if someone's bio is:


Do you really want to scroll down the page to see stuff like gear durability or buffs? It is a preference, what harm would it do to you if it was added. The implementation would literally take 1 minute, max. So I don't want to hear a "I don't want them wasting time on this." argument.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:18

How is that a shame its good now we can use it....

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:20

What would the point be...? if u don't want to read someones bio don't if you do then read it....

And if someone's bio is:


Do you really want to scroll down the page to see stuff like gear durability or buffs? It is a preference, what harm would it do to you if it was added. The implementation would literally take 1 minute, max. So I don't want to hear a "I don't want them wasting time on this." argument.


It seriously is pointless man just scroll down big deal again its not like u have to read it PLUS it would tick people off example go to someone with a arena setup ( Some on who wins alot ) They always have a long bio know why? so people cant steal their setups

#10 Dark Archon

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:20

How is that a shame its good now we can use it....

It could easily be seen as a shame for the simple fact that now the thread itself will get less attention, therefore HCS are less likely to see it. Meaning that it is less likely to become a "GAME FEATURE". Meaning that anyone who doesn't use/can't use the FS Helper are stuck without it.

#11 fs_skippster

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:22

How is that a shame its good now we can use it....

It could easily be seen as a shame for the simple fact that now the thread itself will get less attention, therefore HCS are less likely to see it. Meaning that it is less likely to become a "GAME FEATURE". Meaning that anyone who doesn't use/can't use the FS Helper are stuck without it.


Most people who play the game a lot have it...

#12 cyrus7

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:23

How is that a shame its good now we can use it....

It could easily be seen as a shame for the simple fact that now the thread itself will get less attention, therefore HCS are less likely to see it. Meaning that it is less likely to become a "GAME FEATURE". Meaning that anyone who doesn't use/can't use the FS Helper are stuck without it.


Most people who play the game a lot have it...

I play the game a lot.
I have the FSHelper.
I also turn off the FSHelper sometimes as it drives me nuts!
The page loads, and THEN the extra stuff pops in.
So adding stuff to the game without the FSHelper = WIN.

#13 Dark Archon

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:31

How is that a shame its good now we can use it....

It could easily be seen as a shame for the simple fact that now the thread itself will get less attention, therefore HCS are less likely to see it. Meaning that it is less likely to become a "GAME FEATURE". Meaning that anyone who doesn't use/can't use the FS Helper are stuck without it.

Most people who play the game a lot have it...

I play the game a lot.
I have the FSHelper.
I also turn off the FSHelper sometimes as it drives me nuts!
The page loads, and THEN the extra stuff pops in.
So adding stuff to the game without the FSHelper = WIN.

Thanks Cyrus7.

Skippster, aside from your grammar being horribly flawed, I will interpret that you mean to say that most of the players in FS have the helper script for the greasemonkey extension.

What about those who access the game from multiple computers? (One at work, where they can't install the greasemonkey extension for Firefox, or can't install Firefox).
What about those who don't want to use the FS Helper as it is an external script and they don't want to risk it ever changing to break the ToS, getting them banned?
Or furthermore, as Cyrus7 noted, any GM script will run once the "DOMContentLoaded" trigger goes off. Meaning that no GM script will run until the entire page structure has been loaded. Having it in game would make things faster and smoother. For EVERYONE!

(I do believe the people who do scripting for the FS Helper have said before that they would rather have the features they added part of the game by default instead.)

Furthermore, this is a suggestion to add a preference to the game, not a thread to discuss what the FS Helper has or doesn't. As the suggestion is a PREFERENCE, it shouldn't harm you should you not like it. So I see no reason why you stalk this thread.

#14 fs_skippster

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 23:03

I stalk it because there are tons of great ideas in this game and most of them get shot down by you so im returning the favor

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 23:06

I stalk it because there are tons of great ideas in this game and most of them get shot down by you so im returning the favor


uh ok its just a matter of opinion i take each suggestion case by case and weigh the pros and cons and comment u should try it rather than having a predestined belief just because one player u may not agree with makes a suggestion that many others may like.

#16 Dark Archon

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:31

I stalk it because there are tons of great ideas in this game and most of them get shot down by you so im returning the favor

I don't shut down ideas, HCS does mate. Furthermore judging an idea based on the person who posted it is just weak. I'm sorry for your state of life if this is what you are doing.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:39

I have already said in the other thread that I'm opposed to these kinds of things, though I can understand the desire to have them. At the same time - judging the idea by who had it? Juvenile doesn't come close....

I still say (same as the home page guild advert hiding suggestion) that people have paid for the privilege of making you look at all that information. Maybe the minimum character count for a line in the bio should be 10 or 25 or something to reduce the line spamming we see though....

#18 Dark Archon

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:50

I have already said in the other thread that I'm opposed to these kinds of things, though I can understand the desire to have them. At the same time - judging the idea by who had it? Juvenile doesn't come close....

I still say (same as the home page guild advert hiding suggestion) that people have paid for the privilege of making you look at all that information. Maybe the minimum character count for a line in the bio should be 10 or 25 or something to reduce the line spamming we see though....

No matter how you change the system, it can be abused. If you try what you are saying then you hurt those who want to have a single line inbetween various sections of their bio/guild bio, ex:

Founded on friendship and committed to helping each other. Having fun is the point of the game. :) We are primarily a leveling and hunting guild, with some PvP

Proudly Allied with:
Firewalkers
Guards of Westwind
the evil dead
Warrior Kings
Wheel of Time

We have all SE, Legendary and many Elite sets along w/ 100s of relevant FFed items in our armory!

Above level 150 we have guild item sharing. So a personal defensive set would be required

Looking for a few active, mature and upgraded(Stam gain essential) players!

If you have the following requirements and would like to show an interest in joining please fill out an application in our forum

Requirements:
About 1000+ max stamina needed to join!
Level is irrelevant really(under level 50 needs own gear)
Upgrades like stam gain are required!
Read and agree to rules in forum
Fill out application(We want to have a look at you) and PM founder only if you qualify!

All other requests to join are rejected!

You see here, your own guild bio is a classic example of why you might want to have a blank line tolerable.

If you do repetition prevention, you can have someone do this:

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I think you get the point. People who want to be annoying will come up with a way to do it regardless.

And as I said last time, anyone who WANTS to read someone's bio will do so even if it is HIDDEN. If you don't WANT to read someone's bio, odds are you'd scroll right past it, without thinking.

As this is a choice, it doesn't force you to initially hide bio's, each person makes that choice themselves, just like those who hit the scroll wheel on their mouse as soon as the profile page loads. It is a decision that is already made by most people as it is.

#19 Dark Archon

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 02:08

Looks nice how long did the model take you?

2 minutes? 1 minute? And thanks, I appreciate the support! :)

#20 fs_thristle

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 02:31

Although this is in the FSHelper Script, I would LOVE to have this in-game, and also so that it can also re-collapse it, unlike the helper, which only lets you expand. I also don't get how customizing it works, since some bios just get automatically hidden. If this was in-game, then it would probably work better.


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Good work, da!


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