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Poll: Which is Better (16 member(s) have cast votes)

Which is Better

  1. Voted Mass Kicking (13 votes [76.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.47%

  2. Voted Little by Little (4 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

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#1 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 12:46

I have been thinking about this for awhile and would like to know the general feelings about it from the community at large, or at least those who use the forum.

Lets say a guild has a sizeable chunk of inactives/retired and wanted to get rid of them. Which method is better?
These are my thoughts

1. Little by little.
Advantages:
You never get into a deep exp lock and so it looks better from the outside.
You are able to slim down the gear held in BPs gradually.

Disadvantages:
You are succeptable to GvG attacks as the inactives make easy targets.
You will not have the appearance of being in exp lock but will not be growing either,

2. One mass kicking.
Advantages:
You will have a better chance in GvG as you will not be storing easy targets.
You will be rid of all the dead weight and have a new beginnings of sorts

Disadvantages:
There will be alot of gear which will need to be put somewhere so investment in the GS and BPs will be needed
You will be in a deep exp lock.

These are just my thoughts. I would love to hear others opinions on the matter and perhaps ye could point out other advantages and disadvantages that I may have not seen.

#2 Pablobison

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 12:49

I phale at quoting.

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 12:50

You never get into a deep exp lock and so it looks better from the outside.


Why would this ever matter? Who cares what other guilds think?

#4 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 12:59


You never get into a deep exp lock and so it looks better from the outside.


Why would this ever matter? Who cares what other guilds think?


I would be on the same mindset, but I wanted to present all the arguements I could think of

#5 ajred20

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:02

hmmm ( for my guild) on a regular basis i would just kick them all out cuz they jsut join and go inacitve ( point of this?) but there are 2 people who i want to stay have may have been having problems going on

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:03


You never get into a deep exp lock and so it looks better from the outside.


Why would this ever matter? Who cares what other guilds think?



+1


Mass kick followed by a recruiting drive, in my opinion. The overall health of your guild is much more important than another guild's perceptions.

Inactives can make your guild seem even worse to other guilds anyway.. Better looking if all of your players are active.

#7 Pablobison

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:04

If it is not a valid point for you then disregard it.

The main hardship is having to kick those, or contemplating kicking those that helped to make the guild what it was, but are now no longer playing, past founders etc. Not just someone who joined and quit, but part of the foundations.

#8 ajred20

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:06

yea i meen who cares what other guilds think of u as long as u don't go bankrupt, have gear in ur gs and active people it is good

#9 fs_regnier7

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:11

Well, I would like to believe they'd understand.

I'm am part of the foundations.... I'm hoping my guildies will kick me, if I go inactive for a long period of time or retire. (Though I'll leave and start a solo guild to retire in)

But my statement still stands. Overall health of the guild is more important and I'm sure a good founder/co founder will agree and understand.


P.S. You could always let them back on, if they become active again.

#10 Roan

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:15

I would kick kick kick!
One of reason I left my last guild a year ago was because they didn't want to kick the inactives...
So we were a couple of persons that had a sizeable amout of XP that left and the guild lost alot of XP anyways...
Less XP would have been lost by kicking all inactives

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#11 Sustortias

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:19

Its not always logistical to kick inactives, sometimes there is just not space for the gear that would get auto returned.

Per se, inactives make great temporary storage spots

In the long run though its better to clean up and I agree with reg's comments on this

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#12 fs_regnier7

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:22

@ Susto: Yes, you are correct.. but if you have the room, it should be done.

#13 ajred20

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:26

yea like if my guild for instance kicked every inactive ( or very close to inactive person out) i don't think there would be enough room since our gs is somewhat small

#14 Roan

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 13:28

@ Susto: Yes, you are correct.. but if you have the room, it should be done.


I would change this for...
Yes, you are correct... but if you have the room, it MUST be done. :wink:

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#15 fs_ithangor

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 14:07

Mass kicking for sure, providing you have space to store the equipment.

You will be in deep XP lock, but at least you can fight your way to get out of it. If you do it gradually, then everytime you get out of lock, you will just go back in again and never really know where you are.

Also, mass kicking followed by mass recruiting should help you get out of lock a lot quicker, kicking gradually means you can only recruit gradually and you are not really solving the problem of the inactives.

#16 spidey101

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 14:16

mass kicking for sure.

#17 fs_nagato

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 14:48

I'll vote for mass kick if you have enough space to hold the equipments,when I see guilds having massive inactive players only make me think they're still immersed in the past glories but aren't looking forward to the future,which I rather see them trying to fight the way out of the locked xp,and for the realistic side you'll lose all those exp at the end anyway so why don't kick them if they aren't coming back and only sitting there eating up all the guild gold from hourly upkeep?

#18 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 17:55

I say kick em, all of em, who needs guildies anyways!!

#19 fs_nthnclls

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 18:07


You never get into a deep exp lock and so it looks better from the outside.


Why would this ever matter? Who cares what other guilds think?


Recruiting. You want your guild to look good, otherwise some people won't even think about it. If you see a guild several million xp into the xp lock, is your first thought that it's a fast growing guild, or a dead guild?

#20 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 18:08

Ohh! Oooh! Dead guild, DEAD GUILD! Am i right?


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