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Towards a final word on Piercing Strike vs. Deathblow


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#1 Cynyth

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 16:20

I've been collecting Chaos symbols, so recently I decided to use some of my SP in piercing strike and collect data for this problem (which is about all I've been able to do with the tight-fisted buggers)

My results so far (out of 694 strikes):

17 confirmed, labeled piercing strikes
based on 5% PS times 2/3 LS+++, expected is 23+/-5

41 deathblows
based on 5.5% chance of DB, expected is 38+/-6

1 PS+DB
joint probability is 0.18%, so expected 1

7 Misses
based on 99% chance to hit, expected is 7

Conclusion: the myth that PS and DB somehow nullify eachother is busted. Because of the overlap caused by a relatively low AC for the Chaos Spawns, some of the PS upon the kill may have been hidden causing the somewhat low observed rate. A study on a creature with a higher AC might be indicated (c.f. http://forum.gothado...pic.php?t=43855).

Raw data available upon request.

#2 gothador_isisxotic

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 16:22

Did you max out piercing strike?

I was under the impression that it was only when you maxed piercing strike that it had a negative effect on deathblow rates.

#3 gothador_sniper

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 16:54

I noticed that if you max out fast healer... OK never mind ;)

#4 Cynyth

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 16:58

Did you max out piercing strike?

I was under the impression that it was only when you maxed piercing strike that it had a negative effect on deathblow rates.


Mega Blow 50 / 50
When in combat, you tend to cause extreme pain to your foe. For each point in this skill, your gain an additional 0.1% of activating the 'Deathblow' skill. (Requires Deathblow).

Piercing Strike 25 / 25
With each skill point increase your chance to perform a lucky strike on a creature with enchanted armour. 0.2% per point. (Requires Lucky Strike)

Of course technically, I could put 2 more SP in each, but this is the purer test.

#5 lasciel

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:58

you just wasted a whole heap of platinum if you did it for a test, because Hoof said he fixed this almost a year ago.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 05:00

you just wasted a whole heap of platinum if you did it for a test, because Hoof said he fixed this almost a year ago.

and you trust that :lol:
jk <3 u guys at hcs
still nice to see the data written out

#7 Cynyth

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 14:34

you just wasted a whole heap of platinum if you did it for a test, because Hoof said he fixed this almost a year ago.


If it's fixed and working great as you say, then it isn't a waste is it? Besides, I was mostly doing it to a.) burn up a bunch of excess SP I had just laying around and b.) because I wanted a Chaos Gem for my shiny new claws and killing those evil things is hard enough even with that 3 1/3% chance of doing a little bit more damage. Getting my own data for this myth was just gravy.


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