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#1 abhorrence

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 20:29

- The rewards for being in the top 100 would not be more rating or prestige. More likely a new special item or potion.



I am very excited about this, it has me wiggling in my seat!

First I would like to say that I think the items should be bound.
Second I think the items should be PvP based not leveling based
I think these 2 things alone will help cut out allot of people from trying to exploit the system

Since it seems that the rewards will be issued ever week I think the items should be crystalline with a really low durability. Or potions which of course will get used. A fun reward but not over powered item might have an enhancement only on it but no stats.

Examples:

Gear that scales based on your level, since we can not know who will be in the top 100. A piece of gear that a level 1 to 1000 can wear but it increases in power the higher the level you are.
Gear that has new special PvP enhancements like:
A second chance to pass deflect on a attack
A chance to increase % of gold stolen
A piece of gear that would hide 1 of your buffs from site. People could see there was a buff there but it would be blacked out or change the icon and rename it to "unknown buff"
Reduce the FS tax off of gold hit.

Potions:
DC 300 potion (yes people that level would want this also.. but you would never know which week it was being awarded plus it should be bound)
Keen Edge Potion

Well that's all for now... will add on stuff as I think of new fun ideas!

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 20:32

A master thief buff/potion would be beautiful, and absolutely useless for anything but PvP.

Something that broke deflect would also be nice, perhaps a spellbreaker 1k? (Since spellbreaker 175 kicks once a century, if that)

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 20:41


- The rewards for being in the top 100 would not be more rating or prestige. More likely a new special item or potion.



I am very excited about this, it has me wiggling in my seat!

First I would like to say that I think the items should be bound.
Second I think the items should be PvP based not leveling based
I think these 2 things alone will help cut out allot of people from trying to exploit the system

Since it seems that the rewards will be issued ever week I think the items should be crystalline with a really low durability. Or potions which of course will get used. A fun reward but not over powered item might have an enhancement only on it but no stats.

Examples:

Gear that scales based on your level, since we can not know who will be in the top 100. A piece of gear that a level 1 to 1000 can wear but it increases in power the higher the level you are.
Gear that has new special PvP enhancements like:
A second chance to pass deflect on a attack
A chance to increase % of gold stolen
A piece of gear that would hide 1 of your buffs from site. People could see there was a buff there but it would be blacked out or change the icon and rename it to "unknown buff"
Reduce the FS tax off of gold hit.

Potions:
DC 300 potion (yes people that level would want this also.. but you would never know which week it was being awarded plus it should be bound)
Keen Edge Potion

Well that's all for now... will add on stuff as I think of new fun ideas!


Hmmm very interesting. i think what has my attention the most here is this line >> Gear that scales based on your level, since we can not know who will be in the top 100. A piece of gear that a level 1 to 1000 can wear but it increases in power the higher the level you are.. << that is something i have wanted to see for some time really. on the pots a KE 200 or something like that would be awesome and a high DC like 300 or the forbidden 400 sounds excellent :D
i do hope that this is something that is considered. the cows have a good opportunity here to do something good with PVP rating and i hope they make good use of it.

#4 abhorrence

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 20:56

A master thief buff/potion would be beautiful, and absolutely useless for anything but PvP.

Something that broke deflect would also be nice, perhaps a spellbreaker 1k? (Since spellbreaker 175 kicks once a century, if that)


As it is now spell breaker randomizes ALL POSSIBLE buffs, picks one and "removes" that buff.
If it picks TH it will "remove" TH.
The person you are attacking doesn't need to have the buff on them.
They could have no buffs and you will get the message that Your target was mesmerized and the buff TH was removed.

For it to really effect deflect it should only work on deflect or only on PVP buffs since it is a PVP based buff it's self, and it would be nice if it did the spell breaker check before the deflect check is done.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 22:03

Rewarding players based on a flawed rating system is totally stupid!!! Lets overhaul the pvp point system first, make it show who the most active pvpers are. The current system is so biased toward the higher level players being on the list, and they for the most part do the least pvp. No one in my level range has the slightest chance of ever being near the top of the PvP ladder.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 22:32

Rewarding players based on a flawed rating system is totally stupid!!! Lets overhaul the pvp point system first, make it show who the most active pvpers are. The current system is so biased toward the higher level players being on the list, and they for the most part do the least pvp.
No one in my level range has the slightest chance of ever being near the top of the PvP ladder.


#1 PVP ladder 2687
#100 PVP ladder 2062

Your rating 1924.

Not only do you have a slight chance you are already almost in the top 100...
Also, this is a thread about the possible new rewards, not a place to rant about the legitimacy of the system. Please start another thread about hating the pvp system and leave this one for ideas about what the rewards could be.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 22:49

Rewarding players based on a flawed rating system is totally stupid!!! Lets overhaul the pvp point system first, make it show who the most active pvpers are. The current system is so biased toward the higher level players being on the list, and they for the most part do the least pvp.
No one in my level range has the slightest chance of ever being near the top of the PvP ladder.


#1 PVP ladder 2687
#100 PVP ladder 2062

Your rating 1924.

Not only do you have a slight chance you are already almost in the top 100...
Also, this is a thread about the possible new rewards, not a place to rant about the legitimacy of the system. Please start another thread about hating the pvp system and leave this one for ideas about what the rewards could be.

I'm talking about the top of the ratings, say the top 5 or 10.

I dont currently even rate in the top 250 just now.

And i still say the rating system needs to be overhauled, (i gave my reasons above) rewards should not be given out on a broken system!!!

And no!!! I do not think i'm the best pvper in the game, but i would like to know how i rank against them. With the current system i dont have a clue where i rank.

#8 abhorrence

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 23:58

.. and this thread is the place to have that debate? I'm sorry if I missed it but I do not see what ideas you suggested about how to make the whole pvp system better.

If you want volume of pvp to be the determining factor then start a thread about it and I will be happy to go to that thread and add my opinions about it. In the mean time I would like to have a fun discussion about possible rewards that could be obtained from ANY pvp system that offers rewards.

#9 Bleltch

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 00:39

.. and this thread is the place to have that debate? I'm sorry if I missed it but I do not see what ideas you suggested about how to make the whole pvp system better.

No you're overlooking what i'm trying to say. Fix the boken pvp point system before giving out rewards. Any addition of rewards to the current system is just going to exacerbate the flaws already present with it.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 03:15

.. and this thread is the place to have that debate? I'm sorry if I missed it but I do not see what ideas you suggested about how to make the whole pvp system better.

No you're overlooking what i'm trying to say. Fix the boken pvp point system before giving out rewards. Any addition of rewards to the current system is just going to exacerbate the flaws already present with it.


I am not overlooking anything. This thread is not about adding rewards.. this thread is just a pie in the sky, dream a dream about possible rewards. This thread is not to advocate a system. It is merely me saying IF pvp rewards were given what would be some cool ones. The possible rewards for A pvp system have nothing to do with the implementation of that system.

Saying lets give out a Gold, Silver, and Bronze medal for 1st 2nd and 3rd place has nothing to to with Jesse Owens or the politics behind the Olympics. It is only a discussion about the rewards.. period.. isn't there a cool PvP item you would like to see as a reward?

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 03:41

Maybe a LD200 or an FS250 potion?

An enhancement that halves one of your opponents skills, randomly selected?

An enhancement that doubles one of your stats and halves one of your stats, chosen at random (could be useful for defending)?

An item that, when equipped, gives you -2 bounty tickets per bounty you accept? (minimum 1 ticket)

LD/FS/Shockwave/DC potions that last for an entire week? (level 175)

An enhancement that makes you immune to xp loss off the bounty board, and makes you take 75% of normal xp loss on the board?

The ability to create gvgs for 1 fsp and 10K gold, or whatever the cheapest possible cost is by the time they actually think about it, regardless of gvg?

Unlimited bio space for the week?

A stamp that says "awesome" on the top of the player profile?

Just brainstorming...

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 04:39

Second I think the items should be PvP based not leveling based

DC 300 potion (yes people that level would want this also.. but you would never know which week it was being awarded plus it should be bound)
Keen Edge Potion


Isn't this a contradiction?

#13 abhorrence

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 13:11


Second I think the items should be PvP based not leveling based

DC 300 potion (yes people that level would want this also.. but you would never know which week it was being awarded plus it should be bound)
Keen Edge Potion


Isn't this a contradiction?



OK so I made it large, under lined, and purple.. the part where I admit it is a contradiction in the original post. You feel the need to point that out again, and ask me if I knew it... ok. Yes it is, yes I know it. I also provided a reason that it would be viable if there are allot of prizes and you never know what you will get (also large purple and underlined). Having any potion that is a current buff will have a leveling application as well. How about an actual contribution to the thread? Do you have an idea you would like to see?

#14 Khanate

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 13:23

A top 50 medal instead

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 15:10


- The rewards for being in the top 100 would not be more rating or prestige. More likely a new special item or potion.



I am very excited about this, it has me wiggling in my seat!

First I would like to say that I think the items should be bound.
Second I think the items should be PvP based not leveling based
I think these 2 things alone will help cut out allot of people from trying to exploit the system

Since it seems that the rewards will be issued ever week I think the items should be crystalline with a really low durability. Or potions which of course will get used. A fun reward but not over powered item might have an enhancement only on it but no stats.

Examples:

Gear that scales based on your level, since we can not know who will be in the top 100. A piece of gear that a level 1 to 1000 can wear but it increases in power the higher the level you are.
Gear that has new special PvP enhancements like:
A second chance to pass deflect on a attack
A chance to increase % of gold stolen
A piece of gear that would hide 1 of your buffs from site. People could see there was a buff there but it would be blacked out or change the icon and rename it to "unknown buff"
Reduce the FS tax off of gold hit.

Potions:
DC 300 potion (yes people that level would want this also.. but you would never know which week it was being awarded plus it should be bound)
Keen Edge Potion

Well that's all for now... will add on stuff as I think of new fun ideas!


I could have sworn that was a nipple in your avatar for a second there..

#16 abhorrence

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 16:50

I could have sworn that was a nipple in your avatar for a second there..


It was.. then it got reported and taken down... nipples bulging and straining against fabric are considered pornography by some people.

Wait you mean my forum avatar or in game avi?

Any fun ideas for rewards?

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 22:39

Tbh I'm not sure it would be our place to come up with the rewards? As a player 'in' the top 100 PvP ladder thingy anything I could suggest would seem a bit selfish? It'd be nice to see the medal changed to the top 100 though.. :)

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 22:46

I say top 50!

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 22:48

See I don't PvP anymore so I don't really think I should have much of a say in this seeing as it would still directly affect me. Don't get me wrong, I've never traded a single PvP point, I earned all of mine from the BB back in my bounty hunting days. Not anymore, I'd just be happy to accept any reward they gave out and treat it as an unexpected gift. Nothing more.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 00:46

i think the whole idea is useless as far as rewarding players who don't actually do any pvping...how does HCS plan on determining who is inactive and who isn't? based on if they signed in that week or? theres enough problems in other areas of the game already without having to institute something to promote more pvp trading


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