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#241 gyko

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 22:28

Game Update v1.6494
Posted: 14:36 22 Jan 2010
Hi all,

In this latest update we have changed the 'Reset Level Points' upgrade to now be 'Player Reset'. This upgrade now resets both your level up and skill points.

Due to this, we have reset all players skill points for free, so be sure to re-allocate your skill points!

~ The Fallen Sword Team



We just had a 2nd skill points reset BUT we are still waiting for: "...This upgrade now resets both your level up...."

Nobody said you will get free level up points reset with the upgrade...
Read the post carefully again.
One more time.
Once again.
Get it?

'Reset Level Points' upgrade have been changed to 'Player Reset' upgrade.
This upgrade (the changed one, called as 'Player Reset' ) now resets both your level up and skill points.

#242 kingtyrin

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 22:38

I understand why this reset and latest upgrade has been implemented and support it wholeheartedly aside from one little thing. I was a level 200, I have never reset my level up points, and my skills were set accordingly. I lost 5 levels not intentionally(Unless you count stealing gold as intentionally lol and it was actually 12 to start out with) and was still playing fairly at my VL with the skill points I had. But it seems with this reset, I have lost my ability to cast level 145 buffs, and the ability to allocate points to level 200 skills. Since my VL has stayed intact, isnt this unfair since I am still in the same VL I always played in and have to deal with the same upwards levels ranges I had before? Its not like I deranked and had level 175 buffs, I was simply playing at my level, and lost my skills by bad timing it would seem

#243 MaximusGR

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 22:49

I understand why this reset and latest upgrade has been implemented and support it wholeheartedly aside from one little thing. I was a level 200, I have never reset my level up points, and my skills were set accordingly. I lost 5 levels not intentionally(Unless you count stealing gold as intentionally lol and it was actually 12 to start out with) and was still playing fairly at my VL with the skill points I had. But it seems with this reset, I have lost my ability to cast level 145 buffs, and the ability to allocate points to level 200 skills. Since my VL has stayed intact, isnt this unfair since I am still in the same VL I always played in and have to deal with the same upwards levels ranges I had before? Its not like I deranked and had level 175 buffs, I was simply playing at my level, and lost my skills by bad timing it would seem


You lost the ability to wear level 200 items as well, so all you have to do to regain skills and gear is to level up again..Very reasonable outcome of a new update, not a matter of bad timing

#244 fs_kazper

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 22:53


Level up points? Ooops. Not that bad. I'm not an ALL damage player lol 65 points ain't that big a deal however I see your point... 175 FC is now the new expensive upgrade, and I agree unnecessarily expensive.

As far as skills, well, I can get rid of Spell Break, a broken skill :)

you're right. 65 level up points in the wrong spot isn't going to kill me. just annoyed that whenever i do decide to fix them it will cost an extra 100fsp. i should have just done it last week when i was thinking about. i just didn't want to do all that clicking. :)



Well HCS have given thier definative answer to this request here - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=90202

Basic translation - we value your (the minority that donate) extra $20 donation to the game, more than we value your (the majority that dont donate) continued enjoy enjoyment of the game


The ultimate irony is of course, that people like me that have in fact donated heavily (hundreds of $) to the game over the years still suffer a massive hit to our enjoyment, because no way am I going to spend 150fsp on a level up reset of the 104 points I've misplaced (at least mostly in attack, which has a few saving graces at some levels). If I have 150fsp you better believe I have other things to spend them on. Whereas 50 fsp was within reason and something I considered. All a change like this will do is limit future donations from people like me *shrugs* That's their choice, though.

For fixing the loophole I can only support the change - it just could have been handled better imo.

#245 kingtyrin

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 23:05

I understand why this reset and latest upgrade has been implemented and support it wholeheartedly aside from one little thing. I was a level 200, I have never reset my level up points, and my skills were set accordingly. I lost 5 levels not intentionally(Unless you count stealing gold as intentionally lol and it was actually 12 to start out with) and was still playing fairly at my VL with the skill points I had. But it seems with this reset, I have lost my ability to cast level 145 buffs, and the ability to allocate points to level 200 skills. Since my VL has stayed intact, isnt this unfair since I am still in the same VL I always played in and have to deal with the same upwards levels ranges I had before? Its not like I deranked and had level 175 buffs, I was simply playing at my level, and lost my skills by bad timing it would seem


You lost the ability to wear level 200 items as well, so all you have to do to regain skills and gear is to level up again..Very reasonable outcome of a new update, not a matter of bad timing


So your saying that me playing within the rules its reasonable for me to lose the buffs I had and be at a disadvantage in my VL range when I had never reset my level up points in the first place which is the whole reason they implemented this? Doesnt sound fair to me. ANd I had lost my ability to wear that gear as soon as I lost those levels, I knew what would happen, but this was quite unforseen. I wasnt trying to take advantage of the system, if anything I was fighting uphill with the gear loss anyways, and shouldnt be forced to regain my levels because they made a mistake in the way they had setup the game mechanics. Im going to anyways, I have no choice, I just think its wrong of them to do

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 23:28

So your saying that me playing within the rules its reasonable for me to lose the buffs I had and be at a disadvantage in my VL range when I had never reset my level up points in the first place which is the whole reason they implemented this? Doesnt sound fair to me. ANd I had lost my ability to wear that gear as soon as I lost those levels, I knew what would happen, but this was quite unforseen. I wasnt trying to take advantage of the system, if anything I was fighting uphill with the gear loss anyways, and shouldnt be forced to regain my levels because they made a mistake in the way they had setup the game mechanics. Im going to anyways, I have no choice, I just think its wrong of them to do


What i am saying is that although you were playing by the rules, the rules have now changed, therefore there is no point in talking about fair and unfair..An example: Imagine how some players felt when DD and SSI were introduced into the game, they could cry "unfair" because newer players would level up much faster than them..They would not be right though because its the rules HCS change as they see fit or after player feedback.

You were just unlucky to be caught in this, along with several other players that unintentioally dropped levels and lost skills with the forced reset..

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 23:49

thank you! this will be so helpful! i didn't understand the deal with the skills when i first started out, so i had about 20-30 points in 5 or 6 skills. this reset saved my ass :)

#248 fs_philip333

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 00:10

Um Cows can you put the reset lvling points back up? Or give a free one but for a limited time only you can use it one time? Much helpful

#249 fs_thanos

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 00:16

Please return the Level Up Point Reset... what if that's all we are wanting to change? We still have the ability to reset our Skill points independently.... but not the Level Up points, I can handle it if this is going to break something else that was implemented...

#250 RD1542

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:20

so it appears it costs 175 FSP to reset a players mistakes on his level up points now?

that's a bit high, don't you think??

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:39

so it appears it costs 175 FSP to reset a players mistakes on his level up points now?

that's a bit high, don't you think??



what mistakes??there`s only 5 options to put points into and plenty of info out there to guide players as to where the points should go!!maybe everyone should get free 1000 bounty tickets to try that out..just be grateful for what hoof etc are trying to do to make the game better :)

#252 pulledover

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:01

i like that you reset the skills since you changed an option in the game. but i do think since you didnt only change the skills you changed the level up points option i think in all fairness that you give us the option to redistribute those points accordingly. since i can still change all my skills for the same ammount but if i want to change my level up points its going to cost me 150 fsp when yesterday it was only 50 fsp.

#253 fs_steveram5

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:07

lol pull and how many people were honestly considering spending 50 fsp to reset their level up points before this recent update?? :)

#254 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:18

lol pull and how many people were honestly considering spending 50 fsp to reset their level up points before this recent update?? :)


Alot more people are willing to pay 50 rather than 150. I read alot of the forums when I started but I still made a few mistakes, when I saved up I handed over my 50 FSPs and was happy to do it. If that was 150 I doubt I would have done it.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:24

lol pull and how many people were honestly considering spending 50 fsp to reset their level up points before this recent update?? :)


Alot more people are willing to pay 50 rather than 150. I read alot of the forums when I started but I still made a few mistakes, when I saved up I handed over my 50 FSPs and was happy to do it. If that was 150 I doubt I would have done it.



yeah i did too, just meant they all saying it today of all days!!but i guess the minority have spoiled it for the majority :)

#256 RD1542

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:32

so it appears it costs 175 FSP to reset a players mistakes on his level up points now?

that's a bit high, don't you think??



what mistakes??there`s only 5 options to put points into and plenty of info out there to guide players as to where the points should go!!maybe everyone should get free 1000 bounty tickets to try that out..just be grateful for what hoof etc are trying to do to make the game better :)



there are thousands of players who start putting their level up points into a few different spots, before figuring out where they really want their skill points, and if you haven't had the joy of allocating 1,200 + level up points 1 at a time, then believe me, you can accidentally click the add 1 point in the wrong spot pretty easy, and many at a time i might add

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:36

so it appears it costs 175 FSP to reset a players mistakes on his level up points now?

that's a bit high, don't you think??



what mistakes??there`s only 5 options to put points into and plenty of info out there to guide players as to where the points should go!!maybe everyone should get free 1000 bounty tickets to try that out..just be grateful for what hoof etc are trying to do to make the game better :)



there are thousands of players who start putting their level up points into a few different spots, before figuring out where they really want their skill points, and if you haven't had the joy of allocating 1,200 + level up points 1 at a time, then believe me, you can accidentally click the add 1 point in the wrong spot pretty easy, and many at a time i might add




so i should change my 1256 armor points?? :?

#258 RD1542

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:39

if it works for you, then why change it, but did you start out with putting all your skill points in armor knowing that was exactly what you wanted to do with your character?

#259 fs_steveram5

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:40

i was taking the rye mate :roll:

my point been its a personal choice nothing to do with the cows our "mistakes"

#260 RD1542

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:55

it is common, and i hear it all the time, put all level up points in damage, put all level up points in damage, so player level 5, which we will say for arguments sake, did not thoroughly search through thousands upon thousands of pages of information regarding where he should put his level up points, so puts 5 in HP, 6 in defense, a couple in attack, then listens to everyone else, say you should put your points all in damage, player plays gets to level 100, and realizes that at no time so far in the game has he needed to put any points in damage, and wants to start playing around in pvp and would like to put points in attack, or defense, or yes, even armor, that now is a 175 FSP decision, and that compared to the 50 or 75 FSP that it used to cost is a significant increase, and yes i think a bit on the high side, and note, that no cow was said to be at fault in the player decisions.


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