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#1 vcompton

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 14:57

HCS is making game updates but never once have they decided to hold back until the issues with the game systems were corrected. As far as i can tell this game is held together with chewing gum and string. Why not correct the problems facing your players before making any new "improvements" I just want to play without the game crashing or the titans improvement costing me items from lag and develpoers inability to manage a simple database application.

Every single improvemnet made to FS in the last year has to be done again a few days later because of game crashes. Does HCS even test these updates before they post them to the live server. Do they even have a test server.

Move the recruiting thing down why is it so high up on the right side its blocks the info i really want to see. Now i have to scroll everytime I look to the right. Its bigger and more useless than any other item displayed on the game screen.

Why must we put up with titans and RP updates that should have been made long before they were released? They asked the guilds to work together and so they have. How is this surprise to any one at HCS? If they wanted to give us some epic items why not make it an epic quest to find and create them. No game crashes and no one feels left out. Not to mention how much fun it would be to do a quest that follows you across the game.

Why is the content in the upper levels so bad has HCS given up on FS. The beginning of the game is fun and makes you want to play every day. As I get higher in level the game is boring and it’s clear to me it’s a lack of devotion on the part of HCS.

Eldevin is not going to replace FS or even be the next big thing. FS is great because its simple and can be played over slow internet connections and at most ppl work. 3D games will not allow this type of play. You have turned your back on the players that got you this far in order to make something they never asked for. Other software houses have the 3D market well in hand. They also have the working capital to hire 100 top notch developers to crush any one trying to compete with them.

HCS you have great market share with your current games why not make them better for the people that already support your company.

#2 fs_imetalusi

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 15:02

I must be missing something... I love the game and being a long time gamer, comparatively speaking this game compared to others is by far the best in regards to overall game play availability and the lack of glitches...

#3 Mojawk

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 15:13

Hi vcompton.

Eldevin was in the works since day 1 of Hunted Cow. We have no plans to replace any of our current games with Eldevin. It is a totally seperate team that work on that project. We are also fully commited to our current games and are always working to improve them.

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#4 dazriel

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 15:31

Hi vcompton.

Eldevin was in the works since day 1 of Hunted Cow. We have no plans to replace any of our current games with Eldevin. It is a totally seperate team that work on that project. We are also fully commited to our current games and are always working to improve them.



I'm not trying to critisize or anything. But I think that HCS is changing the game to suit the few people that whinge on the forums. Take the Latest debacle. Few people whinge and moan about Free RP being advertised and want it banned. HCS listens to them and implements a change that severly annoyed the vast majority of players. Perhaps a better system for feedback could be set up. Listed on the homepage so that everyone that plays the game has the opertunity to vote on whther they want an update before it goes live. Not everyone comes to the forums so I think it extremely unfair that the few who do have so much control over the way the game is evolving. I'm all for player feedback and players expressing their views and opinions. But maybe future updates could be geared toward benifiting the majority of players rather than keeping the few complainers on the forums happy.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 15:56

I'm not trying to critisize or anything. But I think that HCS is changing the game to suit the few people that whinge on the forums. Take the Latest debacle. Few people whinge and moan about Free RP being advertised and want it banned. HCS listens to them and implements a change that severly annoyed the vast majority of players. Perhaps a better system for feedback could be set up. Listed on the homepage so that everyone that plays the game has the opertunity to vote on whther they want an update before it goes live. Not everyone comes to the forums so I think it extremely unfair that the few who do have so much control over the way the game is evolving. I'm all for player feedback and players expressing their views and opinions. But maybe future updates could be geared toward benifiting the majority of players rather than keeping the few complainers on the forums happy.


I completely agree with you on this :D I have said it many times now, majority of players dont forum all the time, and you only see more of how people feel about game when you do something to change the main way the game has been working for a long time....hence you tried big bad termy idea for censuring like nazis (for what the 4th or 5th time since I have been playing the game at least...most of those you had to backtrack fast! when you found out the majority of masses were really not happy). So who in hcs listened to the handful of whiners yet again? *come on who did it the most?... well you know you know who...and we all know I said this was a bad bad idea in my other forum posts for suggestions and rp issues from over a week ago*

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 16:21

We are working on the game and planning new features and "events". Unfortunately even with the good ideas of the players in the forums it can take a bit of time to add things to the game.
Been a busy time here in the office with many updates and changes happening and planed.

Changing of features can make people mad, but often we change the features because people are exploiting something wrong with the feature. Some of the madness comes from the fact some players can no longer get a free ride on the faults.

#7 fs_lonr

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 16:37

Forn a much better way for you to get feedback from a much larger range of players would be a simple email questionaire. Send one out to all registered emails and spend a few weeks going through the answers. One question i think you should ask is the following.

Have you ever donated to the game?

If yes do you still donate? If not why not?

This would give you some real feedback. You have to remember for the size of the games userbase these forums are very quite. It doesnt help feedback for you or help other people who get shot down by the same group of posters every time they voice an opinion that goes against them. The forum should not be your only source for feedback imo.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 16:38

I know you guys have a heavy workload and are trying your best to improve the game. I also understand that no matter what you do some people wont like it.

But its getting ever more apparent that you have more regard for forum complaints that for what will benifit everyone in the game. I aint looking for a free ride, thats not why the Rp change bugs me. I have no problem with the change in itself. Its the fact that it was brought about by a handful of people complaining and then implemented without regard for everyone else.

Fair enough Rp trading isnt what you intended for GVG. And perhaps you havent got the time to alter GVG enough to kill the trading. But keep in mind with future updates that the handfull of people commenting in the forum do not speak for population of the game.

#9 vcompton

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 16:41

Then why not correct the "faults" in the game before adding new features? As someone that has recently lost items due to your "improvements" I have to say they dont seem to be working.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 16:57

It doesnt help feedback for you or help other people who get shot down by the same group of posters every time they voice an opinion that goes against them. The forum should not be your only source for feedback imo.



I have seen this alot too. And spoken to people that say they dont bother giving their opinion because they know that the same crowd will just jump on the post in an effort to ridicule and humiliate them. Why they do it I dont know, bordom,ego boost,ignorence who knows. But I know what its creating. A system in which people are afraid to voice opinions and people who do being ridiculed for it which leads to the same group of people having control over the feedback that HCS recieves and HCS changing the game to suit those people. Which will inevitably leave the majority unhappy and unwilling to support the game.

#11 Bleltch

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:05

Then why not correct the "faults" in the game before adding new features? As someone that has recently lost items due to your "improvements" I have to say they dont seem to be working.

Fixing all the broken stuff wont make em any money. New features get the cash flowing in. That's not hard to figure out.

#12 shinramen

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:14

Not everyone comes to the forums so I think it extremely unfair that the few who do have so much control over the way the game is evolving. I'm all for player feedback and players expressing their views and opinions. But maybe future updates could be geared toward benifiting the majority of players rather than keeping the few complainers on the forums happy.


This, Exactly!

I'd much rather play the game than spend time sitting around in a message forum.
There has to be a better way to get feedback that is more representative of the gaming community as a whole.

Focusing only on those who are the loudest in the forum is a bad idea as it is not an accurate representation of the players as a whole.

#13 vcompton

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:14

I have seen this alot too. And spoken to people that say they dont bother giving their opinion because they know that the same crowd will just jump on the post in an effort to ridicule and humiliate them. Why they do it I dont know, bordom,ego boost,ignorence who knows. But I know what its creating. A system in which people are afraid to voice opinions and people who do being ridiculed for it which leads to the same group of people having control over the feedback that HCS recieves and HCS changing the game to suit those people. Which will inevitably leave the majority unhappy and unwilling to support the game.[/quote]

I agree we should be able to speak our minds and the truth. If no lie is spoken why is HCS locking forum posts and deleting messages. The truth is no crime. We should not be harrassed or attacked by other players or HCS just because we want the chance to voice our opinion.

It looks like from my stand point that the only changes HCS make are based solely on sales of FSP. Titans are a great example. Make somehting only a few guilds can win and make everyone else use fsp to buy the item. None of these new updates are fair or fun. Can any one at HCS say the titans have been fun for any players. The guild RP had only one possible out come. Its just a lack of fore thought on hcs. I dont agree with ppl trading rp but why stop friendly contact as a way to fix it. Making everyone in the game fight each other will only lead to the end of FS. People play for fun if the fun is gone then they will be too after some time passes it will loose intrest for even the most die hard players.

#14 RebornJedi

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:41

Not everyone comes to the forums so I think it extremely unfair that the few who do have so much control over the way the game is evolving. I'm all for player feedback and players expressing their views and opinions. But maybe future updates could be geared toward benifiting the majority of players rather than keeping the few complainers on the forums happy.


This, Exactly!

I'd much rather play the game than spend time sitting around in a message forum.
There has to be a better way to get feedback that is more representative of the gaming community as a whole.

Focusing only on those who are the loudest in the forum is a bad idea as it is not an accurate representation of the players as a whole.


+*highfive*

 


#15 fs_ithangor

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:43

Well the Forums is the place to give your feedback to HCS. It is the information on here that they use to try and make changes to improve the game.

So of course they listen to the ones who bother to give their opinions. The ones who dont, simply dont have the right to complain.

If you dont vote for in the Elections, do you really have a right to complain about the Government???

#16 fs_lonr

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:46

Well the Forums is the place to give your feedback to HCS. It is the information on here that they use to try and make changes to improve the game.

So of course they listen to the ones who bother to give their opinions. The ones who dont, simply dont have the right to complain.

If you dont vote for in the Elections, do you really have a right to complain about the Government???


So when you walk into your polling booth to cast your vote you are harrased by dozens of other voters who dont agree with your candidate choice?

Everyone has the right to be heard however no one has the right to force others into their way of thinking.

The forum numbers speak for themselves.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:52

Everyone has the "right" to be heard of course. But if you dont speak up then no one can hear you.

What else do you expect to HCS to go by in terms of trying to improve the game for the players? I am actually very impressed by just how much they are listening to the players over the last few months.

Maybe if more of the FS community bothered to voice their opinions, then there would be a better representation. Until that point, the ones who do bother will be the ones who influence the game.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:53

I will probably get flamed for this but I am going to say it anyway.

From what I have seen HCS has been addressing many of the issues that are a problem in the game. One can not expect them to fix everything at once nor is it a reasonable expectation that each fix will be perfect. When HCS has found that one of their fixes does not solve the problem or has created more, from what I have seen they have been prompt to fix it.

So I say thanks, HCS. I can see you are working hard to do what you can.

Yes, I agree there are many flamers and belittlers here in the forums and that makes me hesitant to voice my opinion and that could easily be solved by HCS putting moderators in the forums.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 17:56

Well the Forums is the place to give your feedback to HCS. It is the information on here that they use to try and make changes to improve the game.

So of course they listen to the ones who bother to give their opinions. The ones who dont, simply dont have the right to complain.

If you dont vote for in the Elections, do you really have a right to complain about the Government???


So when you walk into your polling booth to cast your vote you are harrased by dozens of other voters who dont agree with your candidate choice?

Everyone has the right to be heard however no one has the right to force others into their way of thinking.

The forum numbers speak for themselves.



+1

Too much flaming occurs in the forum these days....anybody new to the forum,willing to express their opinion on a mater is ridiculed & flamed by regular posters in the forum
Just like PMs....forum posts should be reportable to curb senseless flaming
This may be a very radical idea,but would allow greater participation in the forum as folks won't be reluctant to the post in the forum in the fear of being flamed

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 18:00

Too much flaming occurs in the forum these days....anybody new to the forum,willing to express their opinion on a mater is ridiculed & flamed by regular posters in the forum
Just like PMs....forum posts should be reportable to curb senseless flaming
This may be a very radical idea,but would allow greater participation in the forum as folks won't be reluctant to the post in the forum in the fear of being flamed

There is a way to report a post. The exclamation point in the box at the bottom right corner of each post allows you to report it. I do feel moderators would be beneficial to the forums and encourage more people to voice their opinions.


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