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#21 fs_dragonyugi

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:32

And yes, you are cheating (not talking about the "guild" part).

Ok then... I am cheating. But am I abusing anything? I am using no bug, no hacks, nothing except my friends and some computers/laptops... Is this wrong? Is it wrong to ask for help from friends?

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#22 Mistle

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:33

Ok then... I am cheating. But am I abusing anything? I am using no bug, no hacks, nothing except my friends and some computers/laptops... Is this wrong? Is it wrong to ask for help from friends?

You're both cheating and abusing the system, I'm afraid. Can't you see how?

#23 fs_dragonyugi

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:34

Ok then... I am cheating. But am I abusing anything? I am using no bug, no hacks, nothing except my friends and some computers/laptops... Is this wrong? Is it wrong to ask for help from friends?

You're both cheating and abusing the system, I'm afraid. Can't you see how?

How am I ABUSING the system???

#24 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:36

Ok then... I am cheating. But am I abusing anything? I am using no bug, no hacks, nothing except my friends and some computers/laptops... Is this wrong? Is it wrong to ask for help from friends?

You're both cheating and abusing the system, I'm afraid. Can't you see how?

How am I ABUSING the system???


Your serious? You see absolutly nothing wrong with what you did?

#25 fs_dragonyugi

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:37

I see now that it is wrong, but by no means am I abusing anything.

#26 fs_babykelz

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:39

I see now that it is wrong, but by no means am I abusing anything.

lol i just hope you have a life outside of fs :P cause you just walked into the hardware store ;)

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:40

I see now that it is wrong, but by no means am I abusing anything.


by your own admission that it is wrong, you agree that you are abusing it

#28 DaleJunior

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:40

Hmm..interesting admission. What i get from this is that you had your friends create multiple accounts using your recruitment link, but with no real intention of ever playing the game? You said 3-4 friends, but you had 13 recruits in 36 minutes.

Is there anything put in place to police this kind of activity, HCS? What's to stop me from asking a friend who never has any intention of playing the game to go down to the public library and create as many accounts as he can using my link in an hour's time? I wouldn't think you would penalize me because I haven't broken any rules, and he won't care if he gets termed for multi accounts because he wasn't really gonna play the game anyway. Thoughts??

Well I see your anger in your words. Basically you are right. I am a bastard that uses my friends for a game. But, yet, I do not break any rules since the only thing I do is give them my recruiting link and they do the stuff wherever they can. What if some random guy (or even your friends) starts making recruits for you and then you are acussed for breaking the rules even if you haven't actually TOUCHED any other account or haven't even logged out once... It ain't cool. Some people told me that it is my fault. Indeed, I told them to do this but I didn't touch any account :)


Oh no, my friend, you misunderstand, there is no anger here, none at all. I am simply asking clarification from HCS on what they think of this sort of activity. If I asked a friend to do something like this I wouldn't think I would be penalized because I would not have created any accounts myself nor shared my password or account with anyone, nor accessed any of the accounts that were created. And since this is a one time thing, done strictly for the purpose of obtaining a single prize, it won't matter. I can simply have the same friend continue to do this over and over and over again.

NOT!!! This would be cheating, plain and simple, of course it would. But seriously, what's to stop someone from doing this or catching it? There would be a lot of things to prove, and since I would never have touched any of those accounts, nor would they have been created from my own computer or ip, it would be very difficult to trace it. I am simply playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of pointing out something that could so very easily be taken advantage of. I believe in the integrity of this game and would not cheat like that. I'd like to hear from HCS on this subject.

#29 fs_dragonyugi

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:44

I see now that it is wrong, but by no means am I abusing anything.

lol i just hope you have a life outside of fs :P cause you just walked into the hardware store ;)

Yes, I do have a life outside FS. I didn't get the "hardware store" joke but I guess you mean that I "did it with my own hands and now I have to pay for it"? I know that and I am willing to pay for it, even if it means banning my account.
Yes, I must know HOW did I ABUSE the system. After repeatedly reading the comments I understand it is cheating and I know why you mean that but abusing?

@gerbilman: Strange.. Most people don't admit anything... Yet they don't abuse it?
@DaleJunior: I understand.

#30 fs_babykelz

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:46

I see now that it is wrong, but by no means am I abusing anything.

lol i just hope you have a life outside of fs :P cause you just walked into the hardware store ;)

Yes, I do have a life outside FS. I didn't get the "hardware store" joke but I guess you mean that I "did it with my own hands and now I have to pay for it"? I know that and I am willing to pay for it, even if it means banning my account.
Yes, I must know HOW did I ABUSE the system. After repeatedly reading the comments I understand it is cheating and I know why you mean that but abusing?

@gerbilman: Strange.. Most people don't admit anything... Yet they don't abuse it?
@DaleJunior: I understand.

uh, no you walked into the hardware store, which has hammers, which will have a ban hammer ;) happy hammering!

#31 fs_lonr

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 13:05

Congratulations Dragonyugi on your recruiting win today. I also notice a fellow guildmate of yours has won also :). This is pure comedy gold.

#32 DaleJunior

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 13:11

Oh, and congrats on finding a nice guild for 3 of your new recruits on their very first day in Fallen Sword! Well done m8!! :lol:

#33 fs_topsy

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 13:21

Oh, and congrats on finding a nice guild for 3 of your new recruits on their very first day in Fallen Sword! Well done m8!! :lol:


from guild bio: "Solo GvG guild." ... :lol:

#34 DaleJunior

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 13:24

Oh, and congrats on finding a nice guild for 3 of your new recruits on their very first day in Fallen Sword! Well done m8!! :lol:


from guild bio: "Solo GvG guild." ... :lol:


You Forgot: "Status: Back in Business!!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

#35 celendais

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 14:27

EPIC THREAD! :roll:

#36 fs_coyotik

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 15:37

Untrue - if you see something that look suspicious, please let us know via support ticket.


Hoof, wouldn't it be better to build the game mechanics in a way that does not invite cheating so much? It's the same issue as the GvG problems. You introduce a feature and when it's discovered that contrary to your expectations, it's being abused, your reaction is repression and limitations (and in this case "yes, we'll gladly reward the cheaters by an automatic system and if you think they're cheaters, please open a support ticket so that both you and we will have to waste time in administration").

What is the likely outcome? Unless the cheating recruiter is grossly stupid to do things from his own IP range, they can always say "I don't know who did it" - and you can either punish them anyway (and open a door for some very nasty revenges, because ANYBODY can fake recruits of anybody else) or they'll get away with it.

Why don't you reward people for bringing other real people into the game and making them stay? How hard would it be to give recruitment rewards only for recruits that stay several months? Bringing accounts is not anything that should be rewarded, as opposed to bringing new players!

#37 fs_coyotik

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 15:40

I find it really absurd that on one hand, restrictions are being placed on every LEGALLY mis-used feature (PvP prestige, honest free RP trading) and on other hand, recruit-cheaters are promoted in news post and new restrictions to the old features are a strong incentive for furhter cheating at worst and much shadier RP trading at least.

#38 fs_nette2309

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 15:54

once again a loop hole was found, this has to be the funniest thing i have read all day

ROFL :lol:

#39 dowuones

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 16:02

What about:

New recruit = 1 point
Recruit hits level 25 = 10 points
Recruit hits level 50 = 20 points
Recruit hits level 75 = 30 points
Recruit hits level 100 = 50 points

who gets more points in a day wins.

At least you will reward people who recruit active players.

#40 fs_nette2309

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 16:24

but they already do that with FSP rewards.


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