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#21 Mister Doom

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:50

Well I'm glad someone does Iceman..

#22 fs_thanos

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:55

Look, I am not trying to demonize HCS here. All I want is some answers. I want to know why they don't want a beta tester. I also want to know why Hooftest is level 810 and why they don't check content before they release it.


Darn straight!! Answers!! That's what ya need! Though... I know someone said that they dont have the time to do it, however I beg to differ... with Hooftest, they have infinite amount of stamina, and could go through it 3, 4, 15 times to make sure its all working, even using the gear most likly that's gonna be used for those levels, even make him to where he is not able to be targeted so no one is attacking it. There's gotta be some sort of quality control that these realms go through before being put into play for the general public... Either through HCS using a proper leveled Test character, or through HCS allowing players to Beta test the areas before they come into play.

#23 iceman66

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:00

Look, I am not trying to demonize HCS here. All I want is some answers. I want to know why they don't want a beta tester. I also want to know why Hooftest is level 810 and why they don't check content before they release it.


Darn straight!! Answers!! That's what ya need! Though... I know someone said that they dont have the time to do it, however I beg to differ... with Hooftest, they have infinite amount of stamina, and could go through it 3, 4, 15 times to make sure its all working, even using the gear most likly that's gonna be used for those levels, even make him to where he is not able to be targeted so no one is attacking it. There's gotta be some sort of quality control that these realms go through before being put into play for the general public... Either through HCS using a proper leveled Test character, or through HCS allowing players to Beta test the areas before they come into play.



Shardoom made a great point earlier saying that we could "talk about this until we are blue in the face" but until the cows see it, nothing will change. Hopefully this thread will get some Cow love! WUB THIS THREAD COWS!

#24 Leos3000

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:08

Yea I got tired of the bugs on the contents I went through 1st, so now I just hang back some and wait for the bugs to be fixed 1st :)...I really only level immedietly if 1 we need to get out of Xp lock, or 2 There is a cool new Elite set to use, and quite frankly the 2nd seems like it isnt going to happen anytime soon :( best we can hope for at this point is a level 900 SE to have some fun with...

#25 fs_thanos

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:11

There was a time, long long... yeah even longer yet ago... that I ran a game myself... I had about 20 people coding for me... yes it was all free coding from them however they still had certain amount of quality that they had to go through... and it was all text based, but they were required to go through and play the area, at level, above level, and because we didnt have level restrictions below level... and make sure it was right for the level that they were making it for, before it could even be submitted for quality control... All functionality was then checked by a senior staff member, made sure that all exits were proper, all quests were usable, all items were correctly placed... it added about an extra 8 hours on the area that was being built... but the quality of the areas was alot better for it.... darn these graphical games.... made my text based playing about obsolete... but not the fundamental concepts of quality. :)

#26 Mistle

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 10:52

I'm against players as beta testers, it'd give too much of an advantage to the person. Hooftest being level 810 doesn't mean anything, I'm sure it's possible to just put him in a higher level map.

The problem is that the content isn't tested properly, that is, in the last stage completed like a player would complete it, bugs denoted, fixed and then completed again to check. If bugs still exist, repeat. Obviously, that's not a very "interesting" thing to do, so it's not done, and the players suffer. I have lost hope that it'll ever be done, so nowadays I just stay back and will complete the content only after a while, when -most- of the bugs are fixed (or, if I'm lucky, -all-).

#27 Morgwyn

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:22

From my experience in programming, I'd say it could not be that hard to make a script that does a few, if not most, basic steps in map creating. (p.e. stairs).

#28 fs_coyotik

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 13:01

From my experience in programming, I'd say it could not be that hard to make a script that does a few, if not most, basic steps in map creating. (p.e. stairs).


Most of all, it is NOT that hard to test the new content. We can make it through the 10 levels in 1-2 hours... Hoof with AL2000 and DW5000 would have to kill only a few creeps, so how much time would it take to verify that all the stairs work and all the quest steps work as they should? Time is not an issue, it's about the principle - they don't give a damn, they just release the new content and wait for the unpaid EOC players to do the testing for them.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 13:31

I'm wondering how 2 cows managed to comment and look into a stupid post about a non-existent image bug, yet they have not shown their faces here. Pffft.

Hopefully, yet doubtfully, they are preparing their answer.

#30 Pablobison

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 13:36

Most of all, it is NOT that hard to test the new content. We can make it through the 10 levels in 1-2 hours... Hoof with AL2000 and DW5000 would have to kill only a few creeps, so how much time would it take to verify that all the stairs work and all the quest steps work as they should? Time is not an issue, it's about the principle - they don't give a damn, they just release the new content and wait for the unpaid EOC players to do the testing for them.


Why would HCS want one of their employees to take time out from doing whatever they pretend to do, when they can get the EOC players to do it for free?

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#31 Mister Doom

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 18:10

I spy RADNETO! Look at this thread and comment!! Pretty please?!

#32 fs_gravely

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 19:37

The cows fled after seeing the horror that is this thread.

#33 fs_spudulike

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 20:52

fled? nah, they have been in the pub since before this thread started :D

#34 iceman66

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 00:56

Now I am curious why this thread is clearly being ignored when this is obviously a problem. That kind of depresses me...

#35 fs_thanos

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:06

This doesn't appear to be the only thread that is seemingly being ignored.

#36 iceman66

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 03:15

I SHALL NOT BE IGNORED!

#37 Leos3000

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:24

I SHALL NOT BE IGNORED!


It is hard to ignore Ice, he will msg you until you respond just check at my logs of him begging me to post here :P

I did just think of another thing that would be nice of the cows to do for new content, UPDATE the new guide, There has been 20+ levels released since the guide came out...and it has been out for a while and none of it was added to the new FS guide

Can you at least show us some attention up here other then planned releases of content made a few months ago?

#38 fs_thanos

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:31

Kind of hard to ignore Iceman... I tried to before... he started throwing cubes at my head....

#39 FORN

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:35

Hey,
We do take hoof through the game but he is also subject to some of the stranger ideas we have here, ones that don't make it into the game, some that do. Recently hooftest has been working on new ideas for our game, Events, and special quests, some you will be privy too soon.
As far as im aware, there will be no mods in the game for now. That realy is the realm for the people at the top to decide.
As for the Guide, we update it every update or so, so that new content is only for the eyes of those who are there first time around.


As for the pub :D sure must live up to our Scottish stereotype! :P

#40 fs_conscar

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 13:00

ooh nice, hoof is 890 now :)
and we do appreciate the new content being 'for your eyes only' on the first pass, but with the recent leveling of hoof, can you confirm that there are no bugs in the next content release?

somebody gonna get a pvp'ed...somebody :D


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