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#41 Maehdros

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:05

to everyone whining about only getting 1500 reserve stam -- GET OVER IT !! they did not have to give us ANYTHING and you sound like a bunch of spoiled kids -- take what they gave you gracefully and say THANK YOU ---



Of Course and i dont need to donate either after all without looking after their community they will lose players out of this debacle.


We worked non-stop (I personally worked for 37 hours without any sleep) to get the game back up and running smoothly again. I'm not sure how you think we're not looking after the community?




I wonder what the final bill was for all the Irn Bru you drank? :shock:

#42 Filletminion

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:15

to everyone whining about only getting 1500 reserve stam -- GET OVER IT !! they did not have to give us ANYTHING and you sound like a bunch of spoiled kids -- take what they gave you gracefully and say THANK YOU ---



Of Course and i dont need to donate either after all without looking after their community they will lose players out of this debacle.


We worked non-stop (I personally worked for 37 hours without any sleep) to get the game back up and running smoothly again. I'm not sure how you think we're not looking after the community?



Well the game has had stability / lag / playability issues for pretty much all the time i have been playing it , we continually get told we have fixed this we have fixed that only to find out days or weeks later those issues are still there .

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:31

Thanks for the stam and (though it doesn't seem so to everybody) prompt fix for the problems :) I know it could've taken a hell of a lot longer than it did...

I also don't see any more lag either, all seems well! Thanks again.

#44 MaximusGR

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:34

Well the game has had stability / lag / playability issues for pretty much all the time i have been playing it , we continually get told we have fixed this we have fixed that only to find out days or weeks later those issues are still there .


Then do us all a favor and leave the forum or, in fact, the game if you cant deal with it..People didnt work all these hours non stop to hear some players bitch and bicker..Stamina was awarded hourly despite the downtime, so even 1,500 is a treat rather than a compensation..

#45 fs_toc13

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:35

zizzwyly - are you asking to have a very upset wife launched at you? I'm sure Mrs Hoof is as thrilled as you are :)

#46 dragon1234

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:36

Thanks for your work Hoof and the HCS Team! Game been running smoothly for the past hour or so.

dragon1234 - Ranger - lv 45

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#47 DaleJunior

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:43

to everyone whining about only getting 1500 reserve stam -- GET OVER IT !! they did not have to give us ANYTHING and you sound like a bunch of spoiled kids -- take what they gave you gracefully and say THANK YOU ---



Of Course and i dont need to donate either after all without looking after their community they will lose players out of this debacle.


We worked non-stop (I personally worked for 37 hours without any sleep) to get the game back up and running smoothly again. I'm not sure how you think we're not looking after the community?


AND THANK YOU FOR THAT HOOF!!!! So..how many cans of diet soda did you go through anyway??????? :lol:

#48 Filletminion

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 07:06




Well the game has had stability / lag / playability issues for pretty much all the time i have been playing it , we continually get told we have fixed this we have fixed that only to find out days or weeks later those issues are still there .


Then do us all a favor and leave the forum or, in fact, the game if you cant deal with it..People didnt work all these hours non stop to hear some players bitch and bicker..Stamina was awarded hourly despite the downtime, so even 1,500 is a treat rather than a compensation..



Im entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours , that people like you seek to stiffle debate for what ever reasons doesnt change that.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 07:22

zizzwyly - you are letting the small things get in the way of the big picture. Lag is a pain yes, but it is small potatoes. The site going down with the possible loss of data... that's a steak. We all saw the cows pull it together when it counted and do an outstanding job and give us a gift to boot for the minor inconvenience of not being able to play for a while. BTW I also lost some armor from the down time but you are not going to hear me cry about it as it is small potatoes.

#50 Filletminion

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 07:27

zizzwyly - you are letting the small things get in the way of the big picture. Lag is a pain yes, but it is small potatoes. The site going down with the possible loss of data... that's a steak. We all saw the cows pull it together when it counted and do an outstanding job and give us a gift to boot for the minor inconvenience of not being able to play for a while. BTW I also lost some armor from the down time but you are not going to hear me cry about it as it is small potatoes.



Thats fine what you seem to be missing from my point is will that be the last we see of it or will it happen again next week ?
Lag has been fixed 20 times in my time as a player yet it still happens daily.

#51 fs_bilael

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 07:32

Damn dood. Your favorite game comes back online and you are upset. Can I get you bottle? Join the thousands of players of classic sigma, solarfleet, and battle dungeon that never got any support from HCS when the games went offline.... and never went back online!

#52 fs_shyguy82

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 07:41

zizzwyly - you are letting the small things get in the way of the big picture. Lag is a pain yes, but it is small potatoes. The site going down with the possible loss of data... that's a steak. We all saw the cows pull it together when it counted and do an outstanding job and give us a gift to boot for the minor inconvenience of not being able to play for a while. BTW I also lost some armor from the down time but you are not going to hear me cry about it as it is small potatoes.



Thats fine what you seem to be missing from my point is that will that be the last we see of it or will it happen again next week ?
Lag has been fixed 20 times in my time as a player yet it still happens daily.


Keep in mind we are dealing very complicated equipment stuff happens. Lag is a super complicated issue it often is to due with balancing the load on the servers. Easy problem to spot, hard to fix. To fix it you try this then that ...it is fixed by trial and error. Have some patience I'm not there but I can see they are trying. As long as they are trying they will have my support.

#53 fs_bhellion

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 08:04

@zizzwyly:
What could HCS do to make you happy?
The database crash that occurred the other day was an unfortunate incident and reserve stamina was given freely by HCS because of it. The also put in a lot of man hours and hard work to fix the problem.

Today's downtime was due to maintenance and to improve server reliability, basically to ensure that what occurred the other day, doesn't happen again.

Perhaps your issue is just with the lag. Well, lag isn't a simple issue to deal with. There are multiple servers and thousands of users from all around the world. We will ignore the lag that is caused by having to traverse half the globe to get to the destination, because that is an obvious problem that you (and I) face. HCS has been working for quite some time now to eliminate any lag from their end of the system. New servers have been installed and Dan has been configuring them to operate optimally. However I am sure that if you are as knowledgeable as you seem to think you are, any suggestions* that you have for improving the lag situation would be taken on board.

* "Get rid of lag" is not a suggestion.

#54 fs_coyotik

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 08:07

Some people think that reserve stam is supposed to be full compensation of any and all "losses" they've had. No, it's not, it's not supposed to be. It's a way of showing, uniformly across the board, that they're sorry the downtime happenned.

They worked their assess off to get it fixed. I wonder how many of you whiners would pull 30+ hrs nonstop in their place and how many would simply say "Hmm, the disks are dead, tough luck, I'll get them replaced tomorrow".

Sure, giving out reserve stam isn't fair. But asking for more reserve stam for higher levels is nonsense. The only "fair" solution would be to give reserve stam based on stamgain AND maxstam - in a way that only those who actually overflowed due to the downtime would get their overflow compensated. Lots of people (me included) were not affected by the downtime at all. But such calculations would be very hard to implement (especially when not only downtimes, but serious lag and small breaks in service) should be compensated - so instead, we live with a flat compensation to everyone, knowing that just as today we didn't deserve it and others did, next time we'll deserve it and others won't.

#55 DragonLord

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 08:52

to everyone whining about only getting 1500 reserve stam -- GET OVER IT !! they did not have to give us ANYTHING and you sound like a bunch of spoiled kids -- take what they gave you gracefully and say THANK YOU ---


Well said - the number of whiners and crybabies on here is getting way out of hand. Anyone would think HCS corrupted the database on purpose, just to pee off players *chuckles*. FFS people, it's a game - if it goes down, do something else, do someone else, play another game. Get over it :)

We got 1500 stam - be thankful

#56 andyvince

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 08:57

Thank you Hoof and HCS team, appreciate the long hours you have spent and over the weekend to get the things going. Hope you can finally have a nice rest.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 10:06

Well due to the timing of the shutdowns (the first after I had leveled for three hours), the return too late for me to level so stam was spilled until a few minutes from now when I restart leveling, I lost much more than the pitiful stam the cows saw fit to toss our way. They did not even return half of my loss from stam bleeding. This in addition to costing me MORE to repurchase lots of potions that I had bought previously much cheaper and the wasted time there as well, the inability to replace the great mercs we had due to the worthless ones available now etc. I am not impressed at all.

I do appreciate the long and hard work of the game makers and crew. But when folks have a loss due to the business' shortcomings, business usually make up the loss and more. HCS has not lived up to that tradition.

#58 Mister Doom

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 10:12

1,500 Free stam woohoo! AND Due to the downtime I didn't waste any stam buffing people etc :) Max stam people, it's the FUTURE! :P

#59 ajred20

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 11:13

yay 1500 reserve but most of all thanks hoof and hcs! :D :D

#60 Lutrafs

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 15:11

1500 stam are you serious? The game was down for almost 40 hours total in 2 days time. Anyone who has their stam gain maxed at 90/hr that was maxed at the time the game went down and was about to hunt as I was lost over 3k stam in just stam gain alone not counting the buffs that we received from ourselves and other players. I know you all worked hard to get the game back up and I do appreciate it but I feel that we were the ones who were inconvienced and that we should have at least been given equal amount of stam to that that we have lost out on because it was down. 3k stam for me is around 250k gold and 3.5-4 lvls, thats 3k stam that cant be made up for it is lost forever now. Its not like it costs you all anything to give us the amount of stam that we lost out on. I am a loyal player every single hcs game that there is including the rarely heard of (unless you look at the huntedcowstudios webpage) cowplay, I even still play sigmastorm 1 and yet I see that in every game hcs owns they do pretty much the same thing. I dont think its too much to ask to be given what we have lost out on because of a failure in the game or the servers, its not our fault they went down.


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