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#701 Sakuliver

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 20:58

The lower entry fees definitely keep things running faster. But, of course after you're back from your trip, not really any of the structural changes which have been discussed in all the threads have been changed. Is there any chance that coders are going to have time to look at it...(like...move-non move, too many (all) epics, tweak moves so that they work)....it is still a Defense packers paradise, just go through the AH and see who have won multiple items of the same and compare that with how tournies are going....it's only pure Defense in there.

#702 Dayal

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 20:59

I am also curious to see how older and newer Arena LE's will coexist in tournamnets, they are so many that inventing of all of them(and obtaining Crystalline sets) will slow down considerably .


I'm curious as to if player would prefer the older Recipes being tweaked to be similar to these newer ones?

I can lower the Weight of the Recipes themselves in Admin, giving the Components a better chance to spawn.


Tweaked how??

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 20:59

changing the weight of the recipes so that more components spawn is the best solution. I don't think those who have been collecting/buying all those previous components to make the few sets would be happy if you cut the no. of components in the recipes in two.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 21:18

the EMERGENCY ISSUE is that components are spawning for 8 players only which is totally ridiculous. I can understand that fast connection should give a slight advantage in titan hunting but not for entering arenas.

#705 DaleJunior

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 21:19


I'm curious as to if player would prefer the older Recipes being tweaked to be similar to these newer ones?

Tweaked how??


I think he means changing them so that you don't need 15 components to create one set, like you did with Brices, or 10 like you did with Bhaltairs. BG, I think that was a bed that you made, and now, we as arena players must lie in it. If you change it now, you will significantly lower the value of the sets that have already been created. That simply would not be fair at all to the inventors or to the people who bought. The only change I would want to the older recipes is allowing them to be learned by all levels like the new ones, but I really wouldn't change the way the recipes are constructed, just my opinion. I would, however, like to see increased spawning of the components required to make those recipes. Increased spawning of things like power stones of sivill, yathul gems, crystal demon skulls and the like will allow more of those items to be invented while not driving the value down so quickly. What do you think?

#706 DaleJunior

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 21:19

the EMERGENCY ISSUE is that components are spawning for 8 players only which is totally ridiculous. I can understand that fast connection should give a slight advantage in titan hunting but not for entering arenas.


Agreed! Needs to be addressed ASAP!! The last 2 I tried to enter filled in 30 seconds. Barely enough time for me to switch to the appropriate setup and enter.. Oh, wait..it WASN'T even enough time.

#707 celendais

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 21:23


I'm curious as to if player would prefer the older Recipes being tweaked to be similar to these newer ones?

Tweaked how??


I think he means changing them so that you don't need 15 components to create one set, like you did with Brices, or 10 like you did with Bhaltairs. BG, I think that was a bed that you made, and now, we as arena players must lie in it. If you change it now, you will significantly lower the value of the sets that have already been created. That simply would not be fair at all to the inventors or to the people who bought. The only change I would want to the older recipes is allowing them to be learned by all levels like the new ones, but I really wouldn't change the way the recipes are constructed, just my opinion. I would, however, like to see increased spawning of the components required to make those recipes. Increased spawning of things like power stones of sivill, yathul gems, crystal demon skulls and the like will allow more of those items to be invented while not driving the value down so quickly. What do you think?


Yes changing the recipes might cause a lot of strange things to happen.

Just tweak the "spawn factor" of those components since you need 5 for most each item. << this has been the issue for 3 months, I am glad BG is adressing it and still mad at those that have done nothing for all this time.

and "spawn factor" is not necessarily tied to the levels learnable.

#708 celendais

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 21:23

the EMERGENCY ISSUE is that components are spawning for 8 players only which is totally ridiculous. I can understand that fast connection should give a slight advantage in titan hunting but not for entering arenas.


Agreed! Needs to be addressed ASAP!! The last 2 I tried to enter filled in 30 seconds. Barely enough time for me to switch to the appropriate setup and enter.. Oh, wait..it WASN'T even enough time.


Lol DAle , I was DRESSED and had the gold ready. Still did not get to enter.

#709 Sakuliver

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 21:44

I think you got blocked because you won those last two Yin and Yang ones :wink:

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 22:06

I'm curious as to if player would prefer the older Recipes being tweaked to be similar to these newer ones?


What do you have in mind? Recipes being open to all levels or something to do with component requirements?

If its the latter i fear it will not be accepted in a good manner, especiall from those already having invented those items..adjusting the weights so that certain components appear more than others looks like a simpler and working solution to me(a component needed x4 times in a set appearing twice as often as one needed x2)

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 23:39

has any1 failed on the new invents yet

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 23:57

For the Hondos Neckpiece you need a Xinderoths Rune of Protection, but thats actually a quest reward. Is this a miss by BG or is it supposed to be that way?


Damn and Blast! I'll have to look at that!

*Edit*

Fixed.

I am also curious to see how older and newer Arena LE's will coexist in tournamnets, they are so many that inventing of all of them(and obtaining Crystalline sets) will slow down considerably .


I'm curious as to if player would prefer the older Recipes being tweaked to be similar to these newer ones?

I can lower the Weight of the Recipes themselves in Admin, giving the Components a better chance to spawn.



i think all the recipe should have the cyrstaline items as part of the inventing grim as it would keep them at least worth trying for at the moment

#713 dragon1234

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 01:56

Hey Grim, why is SA 20% chance to hit an opponent instead of 20% increase in attk like Power Attack is?

Also, are you guys gonna do anything about the inventing rate of the epics?


Gonna Ask this again...maybe decrease the +% to 10%...but something need to be change...also Crush need to be change..

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 02:12

BG, I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but the Acheron set is AMAZING. Thank you very, very much, and especially for taking into consideration our suggestions. That'll keep us 850+ quiet for at least 100 more levels :D

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 09:05

Hey Grim, why is SA 20% chance to hit an opponent instead of 20% increase in attk like Power Attack is?

Also, are you guys gonna do anything about the inventing rate of the epics?


Gonna Ask this again...maybe decrease the +% to 10%...but something need to be change...also Crush need to be change..



i think most will agree that the moves are fine SA needs a 20% to hit or max def would never be hit

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 09:14

I'd like to thank the RNG for completely and totally fucking me every time I try to invent anything...If there is a .5% chance of failing something, I will fail it. I believe this is the first failed invent of some new gear...
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Whatever I did to piss you guys off, I'm sorry. But I'm getting really fucking tired of failing every invent with anything that costs over 200 FSP. If it's not 10 of 11 Ward Parts and a Final it's this. I might have the worst luck in the game :lol:

#717 Keysi

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 10:17

I'd like to thank the RNG for completely and totally larks a lordy! me every time I try to invent anything...If there is a .00000001% chance of failing something, I will fail it.


Fixed.. :wink:

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 11:37

I'd like to thank the RNG for completely and totally larks a lordy! me every time I try to invent anything...If there is a .5% chance of failing something, I will fail it. I believe this is the first failed invent of some new gear...
http://easycaptures.com/8438560959
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Whatever I did to tinkle you guys off, I'm sorry. But I'm getting really larks a lordy! tired of failing every invent with anything that costs over 200 FSP. If it's not 10 of 11 Ward Parts and a Final it's this. I might have the worst luck in the game :lol:



am with u there mate my inventing rate is so bad also i failed 10-11 cuirass and a few ward parts then a fail the gideons ring

#719 acvila

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 11:51

hey stick, you are not alone. i spent 450 FSP last night on 2 yangs to invent the gloves, and failed to do so :(. nothing has been saved.

#720 celendais

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 12:27

already I think there is clear trend:

Unless we think the new inventables should be worth way way more than the crystallines , then the current spawn system is clearly leading to rapid decline in prices for new crysts.

Maths are very simple:
1 tourney for 1 cryst item= 1 cryst item more in game
1 toruney for 1 component= 20-50% of the item is ready to invent, which can always fail.

So components should spawn more often than crysts to keep prices balanced. ( helmars and all them were at 1 FSP each after a few weeks).

AND STILL 8 PLAYER TOURNEYS !!!!! HELLO ?!??!?!!


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