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#1 fs_slomoe

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:36

I would like to up the guild creation level and maybe the cost. I don't know about everyone else but all of these little guild that only GvG are kind of stupid. This is what the restrictions should be:

Level you have to be on to start guild: 100
Cost to create guild(still get back later): 150 fsp

That way you know the player can support the guild if they have that many and we won't have a ton of small guilds and inactive guild just floating around

#2 Glaucous

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:59

If you really have a problem with it then why not just gear your self properly and fight back? people are sore losers if you win they wont come back. its a game with many different aspects and gvg happens to be one

#3 fs_philip333

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:05

okay, this is the most unsmart move. 150 to start a guild?!?!?!?!? Are you crazy?

#4 fs_sparhawk09

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:25

its a game with many different aspects and gvg happens to be one


But with/to these GvG guilds, it is the ONLY aspect....
And yeah - 150 is ridiculous, but I think I understand the reasoning. 50 tops...or 25 with NO refunds.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:32

150 fsp is alot, but i do agree that someone lvl 25 shouldnt be able to creat a guild.. however all theyd have to do if hcs changed the lvl to creat a guild they will get a high lvl player to make it then make them founder... i do believe once a guild has less than 4 members they should be taken off the guild pvp ladder and their gvg rating dropped to 0 being as they dont gvg anymore apparently..

#6 fs_flames68

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:40

as me running a gvg guild plz don't hate on me i don't think 150 fsp in resonable 25 and a refund is better but i started my guild trying to make a qwick buck i'll be honest but i don't think it is resanable for someone level 150 to make a guild yeah i did it but if they are gvgers they won't go to 150 just to make a guild come on thats ridiculous and if you have a problem with gvg guilds i don't know why you would just like leveling guilds having leveling being the only aspect but if you have a problem with gvg guilds be specific don't just say i hate them beacuse there dumb everyone here was a idot at fs when they started yes some gvg guilds are annoying but it's better than someone attacking you in pvp and making you lose xp or gold hcs has made the system good and i think it sould just stay the way it is

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:54

GVG guilds are losing the sight of what a guild was originally intended for..... all they are becomeing is a group or GANG of players not careing about playing the game only at attacking and disrupting the economy

#8 fs_theoryman

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:17

Thumbs up.

So long as the 150 FSP become 150 Guild Points to use in upgrades what is the harm?

If you really have a problem with it then why not just gear your self properly and fight back? people are sore losers if you win they wont come back. its a game with many different aspects and gvg happens to be one


In our guild, we do hit back and try to force the draw and do so quite often. Your quote "if you win they wont come back" is false, many guilds attack us again after we force the draw.

#9 Spitfire666123

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:14

as me running a gvg guild plz don't hate on me i don't think 150 fsp in resonable 25 and a refund is better but i started my guild trying to make a qwick buck i'll be honest but i don't think it is resanable for someone level 150 to make a guild yeah i did it but if they are gvgers they won't go to 150 just to make a guild come on thats ridiculous and if you have a problem with gvg guilds i don't know why you would just like leveling guilds having leveling being the only aspect but if you have a problem with gvg guilds be specific don't just say i hate them beacuse there dumb everyone here was a idot at fs when they started yes some gvg guilds are annoying but it's better than someone attacking you in pvp and making you lose xp or gold hcs has made the system good and i think it sould just stay the way it is


umm... without being overly rude... i think you're the scum of this FS earth (apart from guild thieves, etc)

and i say that with utmost honesty... if they ever make it so you lose RP when you lose a GvG... these "Quick-Buck" Guilds better hope they dont have anybody in my range ;) ... because they're all getting hit :P

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 18:20

GVG guilds are losing the sight of what a guild was originally intended for..... all they are becomeing is a group or GANG of players not careing about playing the game only at attacking and disrupting the economy



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#11 fs_raklim

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 18:49

GVG guilds are losing the sight of what a guild was originally intended for.....


I stand with you in your dislike of "looking for 4 lvl25 players for my new GvG" guilds, but even though I am a guild co-founder, I have no idea what guilds were originally intended for. I know why WE (Knot Guildy) formed one: to make playing FS more fun for us and for the friends we make here. Nothing more specific than that. And although I don't like the current GvG guilds, I have to admit that those forming those guilds are probably doing it to have fun, just like we did.



when the game first came out your a character thrown into a world filled with creatures stronger then you. Your forced to kill rats to find a sacred knife and various other common weak items to strengthen yourself. You can't just run into battle killing everything you see or else you would die alot. Guilds offer a way players could come together fight with each other for each other as a clan or family with the common idea of growing stronger together..... a champion monster shows up and you call on your family to help you take it down...... the game is just filled with selfish loop hole abusing mercenaries waiting to screw you over at the first chance they can..... Guild's are no longer seen as a family but as a way to "make a quick buck" or get your ranking up so you can hop to a different one.

When i started by the time you were lvl 30 you knew just about everything about the game through your own personal experience and struggle. Nowadays you find players lvl 100+ still confused and not knowing what their doing which is diminishing the fun of the game because these players are just letting everyone help them and not playing the game for themselves.

#12 fs_flames68

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:13

as me running a gvg guild plz don't hate on me i don't think 150 fsp in resonable 25 and a refund is better but i started my guild trying to make a qwick buck i'll be honest but i don't think it is resanable for someone level 150 to make a guild yeah i did it but if they are gvgers they won't go to 150 just to make a guild come on thats ridiculous and if you have a problem with gvg guilds i don't know why you would just like leveling guilds having leveling being the only aspect but if you have a problem with gvg guilds be specific don't just say i hate them beacuse there dumb everyone here was a idot at fs when they started yes some gvg guilds are annoying but it's better than someone attacking you in pvp and making you lose xp or gold hcs has made the system good and i think it sould just stay the way it is


umm... without being overly rude... i think you're the scum of this FS earth (apart from guild thieves, etc)

and i say that with utmost honesty... if they ever make it so you lose RP when you lose a GvG... these "Quick-Buck" Guilds better hope they dont have anybody in my range ;) ... because they're all getting hit :P


but what about just lain pvpers atleast when i try to make some fsp i don't cause harm to anyone elses game and i made the guild to make fsp but i have been loving my guild and trying to help it grow i'm not your avrage gvg founder i respect all aspects of the game but is gvg really something that distrupts other peoples game i don't think so i am noot taking anything from anyone or harming them there are more people in the game that take advantage of players but don't get messed with i have been a leveler a merchent farmer potion maker and currently gvger i am just trying to play the game the way i want to

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:24

and i just find it odd one of the few things that has almost no affect on this game is being just beaten to death by players who don't like it i don't like the complaint seeking level 25 players for my gvg guild but i really don't like all the messages about i am se hunting buying all locations or check my actions 20 times but i don't complain or try to make it so people can't se hunt or be a merchent beacuse that dosn't affect me

#14 fs_flames68

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:32

in short i have this to say don't whine about things that don't affect you

#15 fs_flames68

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:34

and worrying about the econemy really really how might i ask beacuse players might get more fsp lol

#16 8jose9

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:38

Case Closed

#17 fs_raklim

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:34

in short i have this to say don't whine about things that don't affect you


damage to armor especially crystaline spamming our guild logs our own personal log "the profit" off setting the economy adding more supply then demand crashing prices which reduces the flow of fsp which decreases the value of gold which effects everyone.... Every time a player kills a creature or dies to one the economy is being affected so don't claim that your actions aren't affecting anyone.

the easiest fix would be to have an option to choose to be in the GVG ranking ladder or not having RP only awarded to those risking their rank. To prevent abuse make it so you can only change the option once a month. With that in place the GVG can bug the other GVG and let some other update worry about how they are affecting the market and economy.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 05:23

and worrying about the econemy really really how might i ask beacuse players might get more fsp lol

Only players taking advantage of this are profit from this. All this RP farming solely for profit actually sinks FSP, just so someone would get more FSP transferred to them. Ultimate result is less FSP circulating and also *Too many overpower items means game breaker.*...Therefore game econemy would be affected.

This creating of powerful items with Guild RP should not have been implemented in the first place IMO.
I know HCS want to sink FSP as well. But there are already many other ways to sink FSP that are positive for the whole community. This creating of GvG guilds for quick bucks for loophole takers isn’t one.

#19 fs_philip333

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 06:24

Guys Guys Don't hate. Just Because you guys get owned in GvG shouldn't make you mad. And GvG is very slow right now. All the new GvG guilds in the prices in rp items are falling like stones. I predicate all economy will fall down if we don't get some new invent-able epics.

#20 fs_raklim

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 06:54

HCS wants a gold sink not FSP sink...


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