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#101 fs_wesleyao

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:04

Honestly I'd like to see something that only donators get.

I don't like it that people can get fsp without donationg or allegience points without donating but no HCS have to give something to you freeloaders, and then you still have the cheek to complain.
From now on HCS anything new introduced into the game, make it so you have to donate and then all the complaints you hear you can ignore happily as it'll be the non-contributors.

BTW I got nothing against you freeloaders, just against those who complain that donators get more than them, it's like sheesh take a second and work out why genious.



The thing with that is, most people don't donate because they don't have the real cash to fork over for pixels in a game. Games are supposed to be a way to get away from the stress of paying bills and all that, not to be another bill added on top of the ones you already have.

#102 fs_imetalusi

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:04

It would be GREAT if the Items where unbounded as some Players like Me do not Hunt or move on the world map, or have need for Unbreakable? I just like to GVG and PVP... and I have allot of points I cant use?

Also is "Donating" also included in Rewards as it says Thanks for Donating after completion "some in my guild are curious"

#103 fs_arkonas

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:05

i sure hope there will be more items to come for the loyalty rewards. 3 items doesnt seem like much. could we see some more sometime?

#104 DaleJunior

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:07

Kinda wondering what people at the end of content who have donated thousands of dollars to help themselves get there, are going to do with their loyalty rewards. Not much to use them on except every few weeks they get 10 new levels of content to try out. I guess that could help.

What if the doubler 1200's could be unbound somehow, but you could only give them to people in your guild, to help them level up? I have no idea how it could work. Of course, with these potions being unbound there is the potential for abuse, multis, etc. But with the new content coming out at the rate it is, the EOC folks won't be able to take advantage of them like I will as I level up.

Just a thought I had.

By the way, Hoofmaster, fantastic update, I absolutely love it. I am curious whether these are the 3 rewards you've decided on, ad infinitum, or if others will be added, or if these might be rotated in and out with some others. Also, if you do plan on some kind of a rotation, would there be any kind of a warning so that a person could "stock up" on potions they needed before they were rotated out? Thanks that's all my questions for now. OH, and I have absolutely loved what BG has done with the arena for us in the last few days. Give that boy a Beer!!!

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:08




if you haven't been on for a week and come back you don't get 35 tokens but just the 5. it is based on when your bank resets not the amount of days you've played the game. so if you log on twice a week, you'll only get 10 tokens then. these tokens though are being based on money spent on the game. they are trying to reward those who are spending money on the game since it makes them money. i see this clearly as a way to reward and keep players spending real money on the game. i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't give anyone tokens for logging in previously. why bother? this isn't what the update is about. if you don't like how they're doing it then you can play other games. it is rather obvious what they are trying to do. the nice part is they are giving 5 tokens per bank reset....so if you log on everyday you can use a doubler 1200 per month then. that is better than the current xmas gift of 3 per year. i'd like to see them rotate the prizes though...to be different items or even a choice of LE drops or something that is of value for lower level players. some items should be able to be sold though.


We won't be allocating it retroactively for logins as the loyalty medal wasn't there from day one and hence it wouldn't be possible to get an accurate count of days.


Ok, so your saying that my nearly 2 years of loyalty doesn't count as loyalty.


Nearly 2 years and you're only level 150 ? Yep, I'd agree with your assessment. :D

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:09

It would be GREAT if the Items where unbounded as some Players like Me do not Hunt or move on the world map, or have need for Unbreakable? I just like to GVG and PVP... and I have allot of points I cant use?

Also is "Donating" also included in Rewards as it says Thanks for Donating after completion "some in my guild are curious"


its just the same, because the high donators have a lot of points and they will sell a lot of this items, so the prices go down and u can just earn 2 fsp for that items... the circle of live

#107 fs_skerdog

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:09

Honestly I'd like to see something that only donators get.

I don't like it that people can get fsp without donationg or allegience points without donating but no HCS have to give something to you freeloaders, and then you still have the cheek to complain.
From now on HCS anything new introduced into the game, make it so you have to donate and then all the complaints you hear you can ignore happily as it'll be the non-contributors.

BTW I got nothing against you freeloaders, just against those who complain that donators get more than them, it's like sheesh take a second and work out why genious.


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#108 fs_grantslego

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:12




if you haven't been on for a week and come back you don't get 35 tokens but just the 5. it is based on when your bank resets not the amount of days you've played the game. so if you log on twice a week, you'll only get 10 tokens then. these tokens though are being based on money spent on the game. they are trying to reward those who are spending money on the game since it makes them money. i see this clearly as a way to reward and keep players spending real money on the game. i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't give anyone tokens for logging in previously. why bother? this isn't what the update is about. if you don't like how they're doing it then you can play other games. it is rather obvious what they are trying to do. the nice part is they are giving 5 tokens per bank reset....so if you log on everyday you can use a doubler 1200 per month then. that is better than the current xmas gift of 3 per year. i'd like to see them rotate the prizes though...to be different items or even a choice of LE drops or something that is of value for lower level players. some items should be able to be sold though.


We won't be allocating it retroactively for logins as the loyalty medal wasn't there from day one and hence it wouldn't be possible to get an accurate count of days.


Ok, so your saying that my nearly 2 years of loyalty doesn't count as loyalty.


Nearly 2 years and you're only level 150 ? Yep, I'd agree with your assessment. :D



take a look at people before assuming stuff, No, i don't level much, but i was level 241 before i deleveled myself, but i have had experience in pretty much every section of this game... PVP, Arena, GVG, inventing, hunting, buffing, bounty hunting, scavenging, plant hunting, and amatuer SE hunting... so find out what people are all about before accusing them of something. And i have seen some of the most controversial updates and fights in my 2 years, i have seen 2 roll backs and several loved and hated players terminated, and leave because of changes such as this, so don't give me that crap.

#109 fs_skerdog

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:13

Honestly I'd like to see something that only donators get.

I don't like it that people can get fsp without donationg or allegience points without donating but no HCS have to give something to you freeloaders, and then you still have the cheek to complain.
From now on HCS anything new introduced into the game, make it so you have to donate and then all the complaints you hear you can ignore happily as it'll be the non-contributors.

BTW I got nothing against you freeloaders, just against those who complain that donators get more than them, it's like sheesh take a second and work out why genious.



The thing with that is, most people don't donate because they don't have the real cash to fork over for pixels in a game. Games are supposed to be a way to get away from the stress of paying bills and all that, not to be another bill added on top of the ones you already have.


Unlike my rent, car payment, health insurance, life insurance, auto insurance, electricity, phone bills, etc, etc, .... no one pointed a (figurative) gun at my head and said "You MUST pay HCS to play or we will take you to court/shut off your electricity/repossess your car (etc)". I and others did it willingly because we enjoy the game.

And to the other commenter who said "Gee, aren't the FSPs (from donating MONEY) enough?"..... Damn dude. Just ..... damn.

#110 EJames2100

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:14

Honestly I'd like to see something that only donators get.

I don't like it that people can get fsp without donationg or allegience points without donating but no HCS have to give something to you freeloaders, and then you still have the cheek to complain.
From now on HCS anything new introduced into the game, make it so you have to donate and then all the complaints you hear you can ignore happily as it'll be the non-contributors.

BTW I got nothing against you freeloaders, just against those who complain that donators get more than them, it's like sheesh take a second and work out why genious.



its called gothador... :roll:


Subscription based, entirely different
(Also I wasn't including the new lvls added and items and such, just suff like this)

The thing with that is, most people don't donate because they don't have the real cash to fork over for pixels in a game. Games are supposed to be a way to get away from the stress of paying bills and all that, not to be another bill added on top of the ones you already have.


While that is true, is the game not already free to play ?
There are many ways to gain fsps without donating.
And I wouldn't look to this game for getting away from stress, seems to create more tbh whether it concerns money or not.

I have nothing against the contributors, like I said just against those who complain continuosly about donators getting extra, I'm sure a few people are bored of hearing these people over and over.

#111 fs_imetalusi

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:15

It would be GREAT if the Items where unbounded as some Players like Me do not Hunt or move on the world map, or have need for Unbreakable? I just like to GVG and PVP... and I have allot of points I cant use?

Also is "Donating" also included in Rewards as it says Thanks for Donating after completion "some in my guild are curious"


its just the same, because the high donators have a lot of points and they will sell a lot of this items, so the prices go down and u can just earn 2 fsp for that items... the circle of live



but then the loyalty points you earn will be able to be used for something... anyway glad HCS is doing it anyway allot of my Guild and Friends have use for the items... and you cant please everyone lol

#112 fs_cheetos185

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:19

Can you increases pts to 15 per day instead of 5 ... this way everyone can buy dblr1200 every 10 days. Also maybe add some extra rewards like epics or inventing components from arena

#113 fs_wesleyao

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:20

Honestly I'd like to see something that only donators get.

I don't like it that people can get fsp without donationg or allegience points without donating but no HCS have to give something to you freeloaders, and then you still have the cheek to complain.
From now on HCS anything new introduced into the game, make it so you have to donate and then all the complaints you hear you can ignore happily as it'll be the non-contributors.

BTW I got nothing against you freeloaders, just against those who complain that donators get more than them, it's like sheesh take a second and work out why genious.



The thing with that is, most people don't donate because they don't have the real cash to fork over for pixels in a game. Games are supposed to be a way to get away from the stress of paying bills and all that, not to be another bill added on top of the ones you already have.


Unlike my rent, car payment, health insurance, life insurance, auto insurance, electricity, phone bills, etc, etc, .... no one pointed a (figurative) gun at my head and said "You MUST pay HCS to play or we will take you to court/shut off your electricity/repossess your car (etc)". I and others did it willingly because we enjoy the game.

And to the other commenter who said "Gee, aren't the FSPs (from donating MONEY) enough?"..... Damn dude. Just ..... damn.


Way to take it way out of context. Then again, maybe I didn't give enough context in my first statement. Look at your list of Top Players for your month, and for the game in general. Now tell me, how many of those people have gotten where they are by not donating at all? None that are in the top 100. To be one of the "best" you HAVE to donate.

The simple fact is, if you want to donate, good for you. If people can't afford to donate that shouldn't mean that they get less joy from the same game. There are plenty of games out there that MAKE you pay to play it, if you are going to complain about "freeloaders" then go play one of them. Don't bring your "I have money so everything should go MY way" attitude here where a vast majority of players are, as you put it, "freeloaders".

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:24

I've gained a lot more fsp in game than I ever did from donations, and if I did donate it was because I chose to. I don't think that donating gives anyone the right to have their opinion valued any more than anyone else's. But I also think that we should appreciate the fact that we have a game that can be (and is) played without costing us anything. So yelling at HCS when they don't reward you just for playing the game that they have worked hard to provide you with for the past few years, is not exactly fair..

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:24

[quote name="hoofmaster"] We won't be allocating it retroactively for logins as the loyalty medal wasn't there from day one and hence it wouldn't be possible to get an accurate count of days. [/quote]

Ok, so your saying that my nearly 2 years of loyalty doesn't count as loyalty.[/quote]

Nearly 2 years and you're only level 150 ? Yep, I'd agree with your assessment. :D[/quote]


take a look at people before assuming stuff, No, i don't level much, but i was level 241 before i deleveled myself, but i have had experience in pretty much every section of this game... PVP, Arena, GVG, inventing, hunting, buffing, bounty hunting, scavenging, plant hunting, and amatuer SE hunting... so find out what people are all about before accusing them of something. And i have seen some of the most controversial updates and fights in my 2 years, i have seen 2 roll backs and several loved and hated players terminated, and leave because of changes such as this, so don't give me that crap.[/quote]

yes apparently 2400 posts later and you still complain? maybe you are going about this all wrong. i'd recommend not being so emotional...it is a game. as i said before if you don't enjoy it or not having fun then stop playing...as someone already commented...there is no one pointing a gun at your head and telling you to play. :D unless you're into that kind of kinky stuff...i'm not one to judge. this update is for those who pay and HCS is being nice enough to give out loyalty tokens from now on to those log on. they could just not bother giving out the tokens to players instead and just give it based on donations. i'd say donating to the game is showing far more loyalty than just playing it for a long time. shows more being invested. yes time is money but actual money is earned.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:30

Some people are just NEVER happy, HCS has implemented a system that rewards you for your loyalty, they have explained why they could not implement it retro-actively for day-clicks. It was obviously simple to implement for the money donations. WHAT is the big deal? I think it's awesome that HCS has backdated our donation AT, you know what, as much as I agree that regular loyalty is still loyalty. Guess what, without the donators, Fallensword simply wouldn't exist. You people disgust me sometimes, I sit here and read through these forums a lot (High max stam = FS boredom) All I ever seem to see these days are people whining, begging HCS to give them things, complaining about this, complaining about that. You are playing the game for free (If you don't donate) get that? FREE! You have nearly ALL of the same benefits that donators have, this is pretty damn rare on an online RPG (So I'm told) Maybe a little thanks and gratitude towards HCS wouldn't go amiss sometimes, ya know?

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:30

[quote name="bewslayer"][quote name="hoofmaster"] We won't be allocating it retroactively for logins as the loyalty medal wasn't there from day one and hence it wouldn't be possible to get an accurate count of days. [/quote]

Ok, so your saying that my nearly 2 years of loyalty doesn't count as loyalty.[/quote]

Nearly 2 years and you're only level 150 ? Yep, I'd agree with your assessment. :D[/quote]


take a look at people before assuming stuff, No, i don't level much, but i was level 241 before i deleveled myself, but i have had experience in pretty much every section of this game... PVP, Arena, GVG, inventing, hunting, buffing, bounty hunting, scavenging, plant hunting, and amatuer SE hunting... so find out what people are all about before accusing them of something. And i have seen some of the most controversial updates and fights in my 2 years, i have seen 2 roll backs and several loved and hated players terminated, and leave because of changes such as this, so don't give me that crap.[/quote]

yes apparently 2400 posts later and you still complain? maybe you are going about this all wrong. i'd recommend not being so emotional...it is a game. as i said before if you don't enjoy it or not having fun then stop playing...as someone already commented...there is no one pointing a gun at your head and telling you to play. :D unless you're into that kind of kinky stuff...i'm not one to judge. this update is for those who pay and HCS is being nice enough to give out loyalty tokens from now on to those log on. they could just not bother giving out the tokens to players instead and just give it based on donations. i'd say donating to the game is showing far more loyalty than just playing it for a long time. shows more being invested. yes time is money but actual money is earned.[/quote]

this isn't whining this is being concerned about a game that is being ruined by players like you, that think Donators are better than Non-donators... The FSP should be enough, but now you get 50, 60, 70k or more LP? You think we whine, when you aren't satisfied with getting your FSP

just wait and enjoy your 250k fsp...

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:32

this isn't whining this is being concerned about a game that is being ruined by players like you, that think Donators are better than Non-donators... The FSP should be enough, but now you get 50, 60, 70k or more LP? You think we whine, when you aren't satisfied with getting your FSP

just wait and enjoy your 250k fsp...



I got 180k+ :)

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#119 fs_wesleyao

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:33

Some people are just NEVER happy, HCS has implemented a system that rewards you for your loyalty, they have explained why they could not implement it retro-actively for day-clicks. It was obviously simple to implement for the money donations. WHAT is the big deal? I think it's awesome that HCS has backdated our donation AT, you know what, as much as I agree that regular loyalty is still loyalty. Guess what, without the donators, Fallensword simply wouldn't exist. You people disgust me sometimes, I sit here and read through these forums a lot (High max stam = FS boredom) All I ever seem to see these days are people whining, begging HCS to give them things, complaining about this, complaining about that. You are playing the game for free (If you don't donate) get that? FREE! You have nearly ALL of the same benefits that donators have, this is pretty damn rare on an online RPG (So I'm told) Maybe a little thanks and gratitude towards HCS wouldn't go amiss sometimes, ya know?


I have given a (in my opinion) valid alternative to this. Seeing as it was the last post of the page though, I doubt many people have seen it.

We won't be allocating it retroactively for logins as the loyalty medal wasn't there from day one and hence it wouldn't be possible to get an accurate count of days.


Well then do a general guess and say that on average every player has logged in maybe 15 days a month sense they started playing. While I am aware that this isn't the case for a lot of people it would be better than not giving us anything for days we have already logged in.


Just saying.



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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:33

Some people are just NEVER happy, HCS has implemented a system that rewards you for your loyalty, they have explained why they could not implement it retro-actively for day-clicks. It was obviously simple to implement for the money donations. WHAT is the big deal? I think it's awesome that HCS has backdated our donation AT, you know what, as much as I agree that regular loyalty is still loyalty. Guess what, without the donators, Fallensword simply wouldn't exist. You people disgust me sometimes, I sit here and read through these forums a lot (High max stam = FS boredom) All I ever seem to see these days are people whining, begging HCS to give them things, complaining about this, complaining about that. You are playing the game for free (If you don't donate) get that? FREE! You have nearly ALL of the same benefits that donators have, this is pretty damn rare on an online RPG (So I'm told) Maybe a little thanks and gratitude towards HCS wouldn't go amiss sometimes, ya know?



Doom, I really don't give a dang about the LP points for me, i simply think that the LP system should be done away with completely, and if it must stay, it shouldn't be based on money spent, but on actual loyalty.


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