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Poll: Which Potion(s) would you like to see added? (903 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Potion(s) would you like to see added?

  1. Voted Last Ditch 250 (102 votes [9.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  2. Voted Shatter Armor 300 (114 votes [11.01%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.01%

  3. Voted Sanctuary 300 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

  4. Voted Constitution 400 (261 votes [25.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.22%

  5. Voted Nightmare Visage 200 (42 votes [4.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.06%

  6. Voted Terrorize 250 (54 votes [5.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.22%

  7. Voted Buff Master 225 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

  8. Voted Reflection 300 (33 votes [3.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.19%

  9. Voted Extractor 275 (180 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  10. Voted Rage 350 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

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#101 boeffie

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:20

Please no direct levelling potions like AL/Lib, nor gold ones, levelling is fast enough as it is.

Remove UB or make it UB190.

I voted BuffMaster, mainly for use with GuildLevelling or Titan sessions, as they suck enormous amounts of buffstam.

Voted Constitution, mainly to have a PvP buff, but the idea of an Enchanted Shield sounds way better.

#102 MysticalD

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:21

Extractor and Sanctuary. Primarily because sanctuary isn't a normally castable buff and hence cannot be found at high levels - give those people who require armor for some reason a go : ). As for extractor that was my pick simply because it wasn't something that would leave a dent - directly at least in leveling also the level of the pot is quite decent to still leave a chancable fail rate.

UB200 has to be removed because spine items defiantly shouldn't stick around forever :?

Really don't have too much problems with the other two potions. I assume the people who donate alot and are into the xx xxx amound of tokens or more will treat it as a 'free' source of high end buffs though

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:22

I rather have summon shield imp but that is not on there. Also you should be able to sell them or get a epic armor with 5,000.

#104 Sustortias

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:25

Voted for 'constitution' and 'SA'.

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#105 C4RPY

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:25

I rather have summon shield imp but that is not on there. Also you should be able to sell them or get a epic armor with 5,000.


SSI is not really needed at your current level when most 1 hitting sets ups for that level are armor based so IMP is wasted

#106 Maehdros

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:27

I spy with my little eye, something that is Grim :)

#107 Spitfire666123

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:35

Rage350? Really?

Isnt it easy enough to 1-hit without giving more buffs to help?

Some of the other ones look good though, AL, Cons, Merch pots would be nice.


umm... Rage adds to attack... how is that going to help with Hunting? =\

#108 shdowdrgn

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:41

Talk about a hard choice. there are several there i would love to vote on. but since i could only pick 2 i went with const. as it is a fav of mine and would love to see that pot brought out, and nmv but my vote on that is contingent with the time on it lasting like the current buff/pot. i think these 2 would be awesome to have and use.

Like i said tho there are several there i would love to see so i am hoping people start showing some love for all of them up there.

As for the leveling pots mention through the thread i really think at this point there are enough right now really. the main thing needed was the higher doubler and the LF is really nice as well. the game currently has enough pots/buff packs i personally think.

i saw *at least* 1 post talking about a higher FI pot and i really think that would be a mistake. as much as i hate hitting endlessly to get something it is not meant to be super easy. at this moment the market is flooded on a lot of gear and making it easier to flood the market more would be a mistake.
sorry itis a tad long and if anything here was mentioned already sorry there as well still waiting for coffee to kick in :)

#109 fs_terraneus

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:42

rage is useless to over 90% of the players :)

#110 celendais

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:45

Just say NO to anything that speeds up leveling or makes it even easier to 1-hit. I can live with dbl1200 ( to hunt faster) , but keep all the rest contained.

What is beyond EOC? more EOC people.



Some unique rewards might be:

Tainted Ring for 10000 tokens????

Your choice of LE-item for 5000- 10000 tokens ( non -tradable so you must invent with it) ???

Some kind of "FIND SUPERELITE " buff?

Some kind of "get 2 titan kills for 1 blow 10% chance" buff??

#111 moonfrost

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:46

i'd like to see these rewards dissolved into nothingness...i thought when i seen this on sigma it was a joke..now i see it on here and im disgusted by it...this is such a waste of programmers time to bother with this...if we must make pots then make them deep pockets ones

#112 tlthomasjr

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:48

I want a Teleport potion! One that lets me go immediately to a portal without having to travel back through Mystic, or a Create clone potion/ buff that would work similarly to imps, except for pvp/gvg. Sorry if I went off topic, but I get bored with the old stuff, and just making them higher level isn't less boring, just more calculating to circumvent. Thanks guys, and still loving the update regardless. Something new to play with, that I don't have to pay for!

#113 Spitfire666123

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:50

rage is useless to over 90% of the players :)


Yet would work wonders in GvG/PvP... I currently have all my level-up points in attack, as do alot of the people in a top GvG guild (who really focus on GvG)... it would be for the people who could use it effectively...

The leveling pots... to include LF1250+DBL1200 are near worthless for me... due to my low max stam... so why not suggest something i can use?

#114 fs_yesimevil

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:55

absorb 250 , aura of protection 350 , greater vigor 400 ?

*quits snickering at GV long enough to talk* I have actually seen people using abs and AOP but GV? I think maybe two players in the entire game add it to their hunting regimen to increase their hp to 14 from 10 where it starts. Fact is no one uses hp anymore.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:58

Some kind of "get 2 titan kills for 1 blow 10% chance" buff??

Okay, you're now added to the list of "*slurp slurp* i love you FFS please let me be one of you overpowered overpaid godlings *slur slurp*" who think the world is about titans and giving them to FFS. They win every titan they go for. And it isnt skill or numbers. It's HCS feeling that if FFS can macro they should be alolowed to since they're the biggest and the "best"

#116 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 13:58

well, not to be rude, but if you plan on replacing the current rewards with the new once voted for, shouln't the old pots be on the list aswell.

Yes, many may have complained about the potions, but many still like them. I just think it would have been way more fair to have the Doubler, Lighetfood and UB pots on the list aswell since there is members like myself that would have voted for one of them for sure


Playdd,

These suggestions are in addition to. Levelers deserve their rewards as well; however currently, there is nothing beneficial to this new system if you are disinclined to level.

Rage350? Really?

Isnt it easy enough to 1-hit without giving more buffs to help?

Some of the other ones look good though, AL, Cons, Merch pots would be nice.


Rage isn't going to help you 1 hit, really. I did not add leveling oriented buffs/potions because it is already possible to level extremely efficiently; in my opinion, loyalty/allegiance items should not bring more gold into the game beyond what the new doubler1200 and LF1250 potions will bring, which is what any of the buffs you mentioned would do.

Wait a second...has this poll been sanctioned by the developers so as to remove the potions associated with Loyalty Points??

And replace them with, by the looks of it, mainly PvP related potions????

As other people have mentioned...I vote with the missing NO option.


In a word, no. I'm not advocating any removal of any kind; while UB200 may need to be looked at, that's not what this topic is about.

I vote 'no' to your potions.


Why, exactly, does this have to be a zero sum game, Khanate? I have no problems with levelers being given benefits for donating and logging in.

Why do you feel that PvPers/GvGers should not see equal value for their support of the game? None of the suggestions are game breaking, and in fact most of the listed suggestions help DEFEND yourself in PvP, thus making it more complicated and less a question of "ooh! Higher level player on the bounty board! Slap on three attack sets, get KE, last ditch, force shield, and dark curse, and smack!"

To the community at large:

While some of the proposed alternatives to add are interesting, I focused on mainly pvp alternatives because none are there currently. I support HCS enlarging and doing things with this new mechanism, but I did not feel it was effective to get into a new buff debate when there are many, many skills that are either substandard compared to others or unavailable unless you know/are willing to pay high level buffers; and in many cases, even if you pay for the 175 buff, it's beaten by other currently available potions.

Also, no new changes will be made to the poll as it seems many, many people have voted while I was away, and editing the poll completely resets the values.

Thanks,

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#117 Maehdros

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 14:01

StangValle says: A "hide buffs" potion would be great. You could see your own buffs but other people cannot see them. It would be great for gvg or defending on the BB.And Also A High level Fortitude buff.



#118 Spitfire666123

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 14:01

absorb 250 , aura of protection 350 , greater vigor 400 ?

*quits snickering at GV long enough to talk* I have actually seen people using abs and AOP but GV? I think maybe two players in the entire game add it to their hunting regimen to increase their hp to 14 from 10 where it starts. Fact is no one uses hp anymore.


ive known people to put all their Level-up points into HP... and with an armor set... it can make for an interesting turtle set... Especially if they're in a Def/Armor setup with Fortitude + Chi Strike :P ... or even a Defense turtle set with both buffs... ;)

Im just saying... HP can make for an interesting PvP allocation... but worthless in levelling... for obvious reasons

#119 tlthomasjr

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 14:03

StangValle says: A "hide buffs" potion would be great. You could see your own buffs but other people cannot see them. It would be great for gvg or defending on the BB.And Also A High level Fortitude buff.


I like that idea. +1

#120 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 14:03

@supermum : hmmm you hunt with armor set up in those high levels (700+)? If yes then OK, if no, I dont see point of sanctuary pot for hunting, except if you like to have all pots n buffs in game activated while you hunt :lol:


The point of most of these potions isn't to hunt with :)


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