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Poll: Which Potion(s) would you like to see added? (903 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Potion(s) would you like to see added?

  1. Voted Last Ditch 250 (102 votes [9.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  2. Voted Shatter Armor 300 (114 votes [11.01%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.01%

  3. Voted Sanctuary 300 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

  4. Voted Constitution 400 (261 votes [25.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.22%

  5. Voted Nightmare Visage 200 (42 votes [4.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.06%

  6. Voted Terrorize 250 (54 votes [5.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.22%

  7. Voted Buff Master 225 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

  8. Voted Reflection 300 (33 votes [3.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.19%

  9. Voted Extractor 275 (180 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  10. Voted Rage 350 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

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#141 Lutrafs

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:03

an option to buy stam with the tokens might be another option to consider. something like say 5 tokens buys 20 stam or some other variation of the sort.

#142 Deathgun12

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:04

Put em all in : ) Well most of em, mainly Sanc Const DC and Rage

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:05

AL 500, Conserve 750, Lib 350, EW 2500, EA 500, QF(xxx) - level doesnt matter really but for only 1 AT i would use it to save skill points, SSI - infinity (would be interesting :) )


I agree totally, definately Conserve and Lib and EW would be good, i notice you didnt include them and pretty suprised as Conserve and EW would be my definate choice!

I voted Constitution and Extractor anyway lol.

#144 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:06

For everyone suggesting totally new and different buffs, please consider; if you add those things to loyalty rewards, you are essentially cutting off anyone who does not donate from acquiring these buffs.

As of this moment, nothing in FS is offlimits if you do not donate. Creating an enchant shield or a hide buff or some ridiculously overpowered inventor buff from loyalty awards would effectively formalize the class system in this game. Please let's don't go there :wink:


Gravely, it's not cutting anyone off. These rewards are earned at the rate of 5 points per day if you do not donate $ to the game. No one is cut off from them, they just take longer to earn the points, that's all.


Dale, a lightfoot 1250 potion costs 750 tokens; at that rate, we're talking almost four months before a non donator can purchase a potion that lasts a couple of hours, maximum. So while you're right that in limited quantities non donators could access this stuff, if we create buffs and / or gear that fundamentally changes the mechanics of the game or provides completely new advantages that require constant usage, they are effectively cut off.

#145 fs_aldronel

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:07

For everyone suggesting totally new and different buffs, please consider; if you add those things to loyalty rewards, you are essentially cutting off anyone who does not donate from acquiring these buffs.


That's the whole point of Loyalty Awards - to reward loyal supportive players something more for doing something more. If everything was available to everyone, they wouldn't be Loyalty Awards and there'd be no incentive to login every day or donate any real cash to the game to keep it running for those who don't pay anything to play the game.

Someone doesn't want to pay to play or log every day? Fine, that's their call but don't give them the same extras that the supporters get or you'll see less supporters (why should I pay to play so others can play the same game for free? Where's the incentive to support the game?)

Personally, I think the fair thing to do would be for to be an option for everyone to pay to play the full game. Then there'd be money coming into the game for development. For those who don't want to pay to play, they could only go to the first few realms and levelling would take a lot longer.

#146 fs_spoonie95

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:08

I Also think for like 20000 Points an epic item should be included, for any level with Very decent stats including stam gain, nobody can complain then can they? Non tradeable too so nobody is at a dis-advantage.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:09

For everyone suggesting totally new and different buffs, please consider; if you add those things to loyalty rewards, you are essentially cutting off anyone who does not donate from acquiring these buffs.


That's the whole point of Loyalty Awards - to reward loyal supportive players something more for doing something more. If everything was available to everyone, they wouldn't be Loyalty Awards and there'd be no incentive to login every day or donate any real cash to the game to keep it running for those who don't pay anything to play the game.

Someone doesn't want to pay to play or log every day? Fine, that's their call but don't give them the same extras that the supporters get or you'll see less supporters (why should I pay to play so others can play the same game for free? Where's the incentive to support the game?)

Personally, I think the fair thing to do would be for to be an option for everyone to pay to play the full game. Then there'd be money coming into the game for development. For those who don't want to pay to play, they could only go to the first few realms and levelling would take a lot longer.



Too right Dude, Why donate to get the exact same as people who do not donate, you still get points for logging in!

#148 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:12

You're free to make that argument.

However, a whole lot of people who have had essentially total access to this game for years, playing a game created by a company that encouraged and permitted that environment, might see things a bit differently.

Going by what people have said regarding their bank statements and a bit of a shock to their systems at the realization that GEE, HCS has sure gotten a lot out of me over the course of this game, I don't think the Cows are exactly hurting here. This is a nice way to say thank you, not a gimped subscription plan to keep the game alive.

#149 blaze72784

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:21

I think the buffs are fine just like they are,But i do think potions should be added for pvp players also.I didn't vote for any because i think the majority of players lvl more those who pvp,but those who do pvp shouldn't be left out. there should be a little something for everyone so that no style of playing is left out.

#150 fs_lopkiu

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:25

why is reward only include potions?

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:34

I voted for sanctuary - as it's the only buff on list that is only available in weaker potion forms (not a usable buff)

In addition I voted for LD 250 - think this would add a lot of excitement to combat when used.

The DC225 potion is powerful enough - don't think a stronger one needs to be made

Rage is a good suggestion - would of been my 3rd choice

SA is effective enough as is - less then a 1/4 dmg to armor (target) stat ration is needed to prevail against armor as is (given current SA values + enchantment existing)- the frequency SA would kick from SA pot would be overkill. I have not read through the thread, but imagine most that would want this are looking more for additional hunting help - not PvP benefits (could be wrong : P )

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:36

This topic is being started in response to Radneto's request to have a poll run so that developers can see what the playerbase feels would constitute desirable alternatives to the Doubler1200, UB200, and LF1250 potions.

Please respond with a what you voted for, why if you feel necessary, and anything you feel should be added to the poll if it isn't there. I'm allowing up to 2 options to be voted for per player.

I'd ask that you keep responses concise so as to provide ease of reading for the devs. Lots of us would like alternatives to the current rewards! I've provided some ideas for the potions, but left a few spaces for potions to be added if good ideas are presented.

Thanks,

Grave

EDIT: Rage 350 (to match Fury 350) added.


"Alternatives"???? Why not "in addition to"? I happen to like these 3 potions, thank you very much. :)

#153 fs_imetalusi

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:37

1st Place Sanctuary 300 - Last Ditch 250

2nd Terrorize - Nightmare

#154 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:43

This topic is being started in response to Radneto's request to have a poll run so that developers can see what the playerbase feels would constitute desirable alternatives to the Doubler1200, UB200, and LF1250 potions.

Please respond with a what you voted for, why if you feel necessary, and anything you feel should be added to the poll if it isn't there. I'm allowing up to 2 options to be voted for per player.

I'd ask that you keep responses concise so as to provide ease of reading for the devs. Lots of us would like alternatives to the current rewards! I've provided some ideas for the potions, but left a few spaces for potions to be added if good ideas are presented.

Thanks,

Grave

EDIT: Rage 350 (to match Fury 350) added.


"Alternatives"???? Why not "in addition to"? I happen to like these 3 potions, thank you very much. :)


Apparently many players have misread my intentions. I clarified further back in the thread but will do so again. I have no wish to replace any of the existing potions.

I'm simply suggesting alternative options for non leveling players to enjoy the same thank you that levelers have already received. No replacement is being suggested.

#155 fs_imetalusi

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:56

absorb 250 , aura of protection 350 , greater vigor 400 ?

*quits snickering at GV long enough to talk* I have actually seen people using abs and AOP but GV? I think maybe two players in the entire game add it to their hunting regimen to increase their hp to 14 from 10 where it starts. Fact is no one uses hp anymore.



LMAO! I have Great Vigor 100 for those who need 1 to 5 more Hit points! V```V so far Obamageddn gets the most gain I have seen with 14 lol

#156 fs_imetalusi

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:05

I think the current poll is not correctly listed and therefore, I will cast NO vote.

An idea would be:

5X Offense potions

5X Defense Potions

5X Special Potions

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When the majority of the player base has placed all level up points into damage, fury, rage, aura of protection, rock skin, fortify and many of those others would be useless.

So its important to have the right potions..

CONSERVE, LIGHT FOOT to save stamina while titan hunting, bounty boards, hunting creatures

ADEPT LEARNER, LIBRARIAN, ARTERIAL STRIKE for EXP

SHATTER ARMOR, DARK CURSE, TERRORIZE, WITHER, FLINCH to reduce the targets stats

SANCTUARY, CONSTITUTION, KEEN EDGE, BERSERK, FORTITUDE to increase individual stats

LAST DITCH, FORCE SHIELD, REFLECTION for PvP defense

EXTRACTOR, INVENTOR for the plant farmers and potion makers out there.

****This is merely the needs the of the gamers without adding too much clutter****

Note: Whos to say you cant have more then a few potions? why not make it so the players have something to spend all their [Allegiance Token] on?


A No Brainer

#157 sakana

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:09

Can some idea be considered in making the potion bound in a way that we can share them with guild mates. I get not wanting them sold, but it would make it more fun to be able to share some wealth with fellow guild members who maybe can't earn as many loyalty points.

And having not read most of this would like to see high lvl EA and EW pots

EA - 1500
EW - 1500

#158 fs_robo1229

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:19

I like the Last Ditch, Shatter Armor, and Reflect potions mentioned. :twisted:

I would also like to see a higher level conserve potion. :wink:

#159 fs_robotussin

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:22

i like levys idea... a high level AS pot is an awesome idea, and will have VERY little effect on the game mechanics...

#160 Goklee

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:26

i like to see a higher lvl of the 'Enchanted Armor' buff , like lvl 450 or lvl 500 =D or something like ...


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