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Poll: Which Potion(s) would you like to see added? (903 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Potion(s) would you like to see added?

  1. Voted Last Ditch 250 (102 votes [9.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.86%

  2. Voted Shatter Armor 300 (114 votes [11.01%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.01%

  3. Voted Sanctuary 300 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

  4. Voted Constitution 400 (261 votes [25.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.22%

  5. Voted Nightmare Visage 200 (42 votes [4.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.06%

  6. Voted Terrorize 250 (54 votes [5.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.22%

  7. Voted Buff Master 225 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

  8. Voted Reflection 300 (33 votes [3.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.19%

  9. Voted Extractor 275 (180 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  10. Voted Rage 350 (83 votes [8.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.02%

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#161 jeremymoore8286

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:33

Why not have different level of armors that can't be gotten anywhere else be involved in this or is it all going to be about potions?

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:39

why does it have to be just potions why not a piece of Armour or a weapon I.E Titan level? ( but not Titan items) but on a crystal line so it couldn't have unlimited uses (does this make sense? )

#163 lordthade

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:41

I totally understand the potions... they're useful and get consumed.

However, I was hoping for possible upgrades to my character, or perhaps some type of gear (perhaps crystalline) that may be bound, but is worth hunting with.

No biggie.

Maybe a new top-rated list! Most loyalty points accumulated! I know I'm not near the top, but it would be entertaining to see who would be. 8)

#164 Mister Doom

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:47

Bah, these potions are ALL fairly rubbish, high level potion to raise any stat are a BAD idea. Maybe a high level Shockwave, Stun, Force shield or Last Ditch but no stat increasing potions PLOX

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#165 Asahara

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:51

I really want a new constitution pot, but I didn't vote. 400 is WAY too low.

400 wouldn't even counteract the effects of DC 225, which costs like what, 100k? Even less sometimes.

If it were to be a loyalty reward, it should be maybe 600+. But even then that's still pretty weak.

#166 abeaudry

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:54

I like the current 3 potions offered and I do not think they should be removed. If you take out the UB200 pots then the ones I have in my pack become worth more again. I do think offering some other potion choices is a good idea, but for pvp pots it should only be ones that favor the defender.....not the attacker. The current buffs and gear in the game gives the attacker most/all of the advantages. I think to keep or add a bit more balance so that the attacker has a bit less of a chance to win in pvp / gvg.

Adding gear or components to invent some new gear would be wonderful.

Please add some more options though or there will be some that will take years to spend all of their tokens.

#167 lordthade

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:55

*smacks head*

Sorry. I just cruised to the rest of the forums and see threads already up about Top Rated lists and such.

Still, thanks for the goodies.

#168 fs_zubejda

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:12

I´m for Librarian and Adept Learner lvl 200 or more. 8)

#169 fs_babykelz

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:15

on a thought, how about something like empower 1000, to give max enhancements to the enhancements you have ;)

#170 Mister Doom

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:19

I´m for Librarian and Adept learner lvl 200 or more. 8)


Potion of the Bookworm = LIB 225, Adept Learner 200 is available (Along with CON 200) with the power leveler B RP pack.. No AT prizes for these please..

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#171 fs_forbidlife

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:35

So is allegiance points only going to buy potions, why not other stuff? like maybe unique items, and maybe even FSP for higher, or since i know, HCS probably won't want FSP on it, maybe a percentage raise in FSP from donations, like 5-10%, make a bit higher also, lol, i got like almost 14K tokens already, and just wondering if there could be other choices besides dblr, light foot, and the other one i didn't pay attention to, the dblr and light foot would really be good for level'ers, but i picked extracter and Buff master, because one, exactor potions are low levels afaik, and a higher level would really be nice por the potion makers (maybe ya get the idea lol) and buff master would apply to any guild buffers, personal buffers, so probably more than half the playerbase, (maybe a bit exxagerated) my ideas may not be consice, but others can probably work out most of the details, like how many tokens per item/percent point of extra FSP per donation, weither or not the percentage would be for only 1 donation, or for a a time period, and what the max percentage, if any, should be, and things along those lines, and maybe even, instead of items, rarer recipes, or the old PvP arena potions, or really anything that is good enough to spend the tokens on, things that you can only get with tokens, like the light foot XD

Discuss away lol, hope i don't get flammed 'o'

#172 krypt118

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:37

I´m for Librarian and Adept Learner lvl 200 or more. 8)




I would have to agree with Zubejda here. i would rather see a high Adept learner potion then all of these other ones like AL 250. I mean who really needs a high LD potion anyways, LvL 175 works great already. To be honest i would like to use the LP points for something actually useful and not a higher LD or Rage thats just dumb here is a few suggestions.

Adept Learner lvl 250/300 500LP
Librarian lvl 350 500Lp
Conserve lvl 350 500Lp

and last but not lease a potion called Ultimate Defense lvl 1000 50% stat increase to defense and armor stats and 50% chance of counter attack with DBL Damage 1500 RP.

Now those potions i would buy the rest suck. Please make them better. :mrgreen:

#173 mikkyld

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:37

There are many of the potions listed that I would use if given the choice but I'd far prefer to be able to get items rather than potions.

I don't really care what type of items or what level they are or if they are new or existing items. As long as they are not readily available elsewhere, it would be all good IMO.

It could be a legendary item that isn't going to be seen much if ever in the future but which has another use like the plague helm or ursa helm.

It could be a new elite or legendary level item and it could be either bound or not to suit HCS taste on the matter.

It could be existing quest items that are used to make exciting items like those you get with RP or those you get in the arena.

It could even be a titan item.


The prices should reflect the rarity and difficulty in acquiring whatever the item is; I won't be silly enough to think I can tell HCS what the right price is. Even if it costs 100000 and thus very few people will ever get it, it would still represent another way people can get the things they want and which are hard to acquire.


Of all the ideas I can imagine I selfishly would like to get titan stuff but there is another idea that interests me a lot:

HCS creates bound potions that changes existing items into different stats. There are 5 attributes and so (by my count) that would mean 15 new potions, 5 of which have just one new attribute and 10 of which would mix and match all the various 2 attribute possibilities like attack and defense or attack and damage or even attack and HP. Of course I can imagine HCS selling a blank potion which lets the players decide what stat(s) and in what ratio those stats exist to each other. Players buy it and can use it to change whatever items they have into the potion defined stats.

Stat numbers wouldn't increase or decrease, they'd just fall into the potion's defined stats. elite items stay elite, as do legendary and epic items. Items would be gauged as they are not as they could be, so a FF poor item would have fewer points available than a FF perfect but more than the same item that isnt forged. The points on the item would be transferred into the new template

So, for example the rapieo armor I just found with 1680 points would become 1680 attack or 1680 damage or 840 att and 840 damage (and it could even be possible for the potions to give specific mixes - like 2/3 damage 1/3 attack) and it would remain common and level 840. Meanwhile my Ex not forged ice maiden blade would have 1718 points to distribute into the new template and would remain unique but not excellent - existing crafting and forging would be wiped away. And yes I realize that the way I describe would allow an item to be effectively forged twice, once before and once after using a transformation potion - seems like a good sink for gold and fsp to me.

Such things should be fairly expensive of course but again I hesitate to tell HCS just how expensive. Transformed items could become bound in the process if HCS doesn't want even more ridiculously priced items on the market but I'd argue not to do that.

Bottom line is I'd like to see the poll add "I'd probably use many of the potions suggested but I'd rather have an item."

#174 Placeboo

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:44

how bout stop adding potions that make the game to easy?

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:48

Potion of the Bookworm = LIB 225, Adept Learner 200 is available (Along with CON 200) with the power leveler B RP pack.. No AT prizes for these please..


I agree, Potion of the Bookworm IS Available in the AH (and to those of us who have personal contacts outside of it) so a Librarian Potion being made available in an Allegiance Token Pack is not the most intelligent. BUT! I will say that an Adept Learner Potion being made available through Allegiance Tokens would not be un-intelligent seeing as often as not the availability of Leveling Packs is often at the discretion of others, through the majority, and dependent on the RP available to the Guild. Often Guilds Schedule when RP Packs are going to be activated, and to schedule your Hunts around other schedules isn't the best way to consolidate stamina (seeing as often as not people Hunt using their Full Stamina until the majority is depleted) to gain the most XP out of your Hunts. So a Conserve and Adept Learner Potion being made available would not only provide those with an opportunity to maintain their own Hunting Schedule, but it would lead to greater investments in the game because people would actually WANT such Potions.

#176 Lavalord

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:49

maybe LEVEL BUFF POTIONS to be good more :mrgreen:

#177 mikkyld

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:50

how bout stop adding potions that make the game to easy?


I don't necessarily agree that they make the game too easy though they certainly do make it easier. However, shouldn't that also include items that make the game easier too? Like epic items - for example the epic shield you are wearing to make your stamina and XP growth faster?

I'm not taking a shot here because I'd certainly wear the razored shield if I had it but the point is instructive IMO - EVERYTHING HCS adds to the game is at least intended to make aspects of the game more enjoyable and thus easier. Should they just stop trying to make things better for their customers?

#178 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:53

Almost all of the potions originally suggested would make PvP harder, not easier.

Ditch, Nightmare, Sanctuary, and Terrorize all have almost no leveling benefit whatsoever, as they are primarily either armor base, reduce stats too much, or only activate after an Imp does.

Constitution 250 is currently no match for existing Dark Curse and Keen Edge combinations; while Con400 would provide some benefit to levelers, most players can already make defensive sets work with Con250 and Flinch, so this isn't game breaking. On the other hand, Con 400 with Flinch and Nightmare, and a stacked defense setup, would actually be viable for bounty board defense and GvG attack in the correct circumstances, which can only be a good thing.

Shatter is a very low kick rate, and it may have some leveling benefit, but SK stacks in PvE and activates just as often - and does more.

Extractor and Buff Master are not things that really make anything easier - they simply provide a more cost effective method of doing things.

#179 krypt118

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:53

There are many of the potions listed that I would use if given the choice but I'd far prefer to be able to get items rather than potions.

I don't really care what type of items or what level they are or if they are new or existing items. As long as they are not readily available elsewhere, it would be all good IMO.

It could be a legendary item that isn't going to be seen much if ever in the future but which has another use like the plague helm or ursa helm.

It could be a new elite or legendary level item and it could be either bound or not to suit HCS taste on the matter.

It could be existing quest items that are used to make exciting items like those you get with RP or those you get in the arena.

It could even be a titan item.


The prices should reflect the rarity and difficulty in acquiring whatever the item is; I won't be silly enough to think I can tell HCS what the right price is. Even if it costs 100000 and thus very few people will ever get it, it would still represent another way people can get the things they want and which are hard to acquire.







I really like this idea. It would be awesome to use your LP on cool new items that you have to be Loyal to get maybe an item with extra stam gain like the epics do or a potion that gives you like +5/10 Sta, gain for 24 hrs but cost really high like 5k LP.

#180 Mister Doom

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:54

Potion of the Bookworm = LIB 225, Adept Learner 200 is available (Along with CON 200) with the power leveler B RP pack.. No AT prizes for these please..


I agree, Potion of the Bookworm IS Available in the AH (and to those of us who have personal contacts outside of it) so a Librarian Potion being made available in an Allegiance Token Pack is not the most intelligent. BUT! I will say that an Adept Learner Potion being made available through Allegiance Tokens would not be un-intelligent seeing as often as not the availability of Leveling Packs is often at the discretion of others, through the majority, and dependent on the RP available to the Guild. Often Guilds Schedule when RP Packs are going to be activated, and to schedule your Hunts around other schedules isn't the best way to consolidate stamina (seeing as often as not people Hunt using their Full Stamina until the majority is depleted) to gain the most XP out of your Hunts. So a Conserve and Adept Learner Potion being made available would not only provide those with an opportunity to maintain their own Hunting Schedule, but it would lead to greater investments in the game because people would actually WANT such Potions.


Con and AL uber potions is just a BAD idea.

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