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#1 karinajaya

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 14:54

Dear Admin/Staff,

i'm request add more EPIC ITEM for Alliegence Tokens...

it's make player can use paypal/credit card to get Alliegence Tokens to buy EPIC ITEM :)

i'm hope my request can consider :)

thanks before,
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#2 fs_dreptile

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:02

only if it can be purchased using gold only ..and the gold must not be banked :)

#3 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:03

I'd say that's a bad idea, for a lot of reasons.

If it's bound, you've just completely burned non donators. Loyalty rewards should never completely cut off non donators. It's one thing to offer higher levels of currently available buffs; it's another to create gear that sets new paradigms and then close off access to it, even players who are successful in the arena, auction house, or just plain smart savers.

If it's unbound, you're going to create a massive profit potential for donators that will, initially, simply counter the whole point of donation, which is that the Cows profit from your cash and you get reasonable consideration. After a while, the market will glut as more and more people buy them.

MAYBE, MAYBE, components for a new epic item or bound legendary items that are used in inventing arena items or wards or other new recipes through loyalty rewards. Not whole epics.

#4 karinajaya

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 15:17

Mr.Gravely,

i'm agree with your reason but i'm have other reason why i'm request EPIC ITEM ..

now so many guild make GVG for get RP and make EPIC ITEM and sell it .. its mean make profit for player ..

but i'm think to make profit for fallen sword if they add more epic item at Alliegence Tokens its make who player use paypal/credit card to donators to fallen sword ... so player happy donators happy too..

i'm say that becouse i'm donators to fallen sword almost 3 years now i'm have Alliegence Tokens 48.000 .. :)

please admin/staff consider my request..

thanks before,
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#5 fs_robotussin

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 16:09

you already can use your credit card to buy epic items, like you suggest... simply purchase fsp, then buy an epic... no need to bring allegiance tokens into it

#6 lordthade

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:07

I was hoping for stam gain, personally, which is the best thing about epic items. The cows have been pretty loosey-goosey with stam gain with all the relics and new RP items... thought it was in the works.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:02

Mr.Gravely,

i'm agree with your reason but i'm have other reason why i'm request EPIC ITEM ..

now so many guild make GVG for get RP and make EPIC ITEM and sell it .. its mean make profit for player ..

but i'm think to make profit for fallen sword if they add more epic item at Alliegence Tokens its make who player use paypal/credit card to donators to fallen sword ... so player happy donators happy too..

i'm say that becouse i'm donators to fallen sword almost 3 years now i'm have Alliegence Tokens 48.000 .. :)

please admin/staff consider my request..

thanks before,
karinajaya


I totally agree with you karinajaya , I consider my self average donator(i have 20,750 A tokens),i rather give my real money straight to HCS not first spend 150 dollars to order 1000fsp then give all those points some big guild how have just killed one Titan.

#8 shokolo

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:08

I dont see anything wrong with adding epic components to the loyalty awards ...but thats me

#9 fs_gravely

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:14

Components, maybe. Straight epics, no.

#10 mikkyld

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:19

I'd say that's a bad idea, for a lot of reasons.

If it's bound, you've just completely burned non donators. Loyalty rewards should never completely cut off non donators. It's one thing to offer higher levels of currently available buffs; it's another to create gear that sets new paradigms and then close off access to it, even players who are successful in the arena, auction house, or just plain smart savers.

If it's unbound, you're going to create a massive profit potential for donators that will, initially, simply counter the whole point of donation, which is that the Cows profit from your cash and you get reasonable consideration. After a while, the market will glut as more and more people buy them.

MAYBE, MAYBE, components for a new epic item or bound legendary items that are used in inventing arena items or wards or other new recipes through loyalty rewards. Not whole epics.


I understand your points but disagree that it would counter the whole point of donation. HCS would still have the results of those donations and likely would see some increase in donations by people chasing after an epic the way they do now. The fact that people would be making a huge profit from their donations doesn't affect donations at all really - people will or won't make them and likely a great reward would make more people donate more often IMO.

Also if it is bound, no non-donor has been burned at all although donors have been given an edge for sure. Of course some would argue that it is in a company's interest to reward those who are their best customers. I am ambivalent on the matter as I can see the advantage to the company to increase profits but would prefer my games to be playable the same way by all players regardless of donations they have made.

BTW I concur with the idea of letting the rewards system get you components that can ultimately become epics but if the price is high enough it could just as easily be the whole epic at once. No real difference in paying X for 3 components and X for 1 items really - not at the high % of successful epic invention anyway :) As long as X is high enough so it isn't easy to achieve, I am fine with it

#11 shokolo

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:22

Components, maybe. Straight epics, no.


No...no epics, the components, even the new ones that are used in the new LE gear

#12 mikkyld

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:23

I totally agree with you karinajaya , I consider my self average donator(i have 20,750 A tokens),i rather give my real money straight to HCS not first spend 150 dollars to order 1000fsp then give all those points some big guild how have just killed one Titan.



This is, I think, an excellent point. If a person is willing to pay X dollars to buy fsp and then get an epic item, wouldn't it be in HCS interests to allow them to donate X dollars and be able to select one as a loyalty reward?

In general, making a variety of routes to similar results is an excellent way to structure a game IMO. Some people donate and buy stam, some do not and all want to own some (epic?) items. Some can hunt them, some can earn fsp within the game and buy the items that were hunted and some can donate and use that approach to get the item they want.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:28

An example of non donators getting burned would be if totally new bound epics were released; say, for example, a 2 stat attack / damage epic at any range, or a defense epic in the mid 400's. Suddenly you've eliminated people from the chance to own the best available hunting gear or completely shafted arena strategies; while some people may feel that is a fair and warranted advantage, I don't see that changing the style of the game from completely open in terms of all players having all access to suddenly giving massively advantageous exclusive content is a good thing, for us or the Cows.

Your point about prices and invention rates is well taken; I seriously believe the best answer to a lot of problems is to have a "legendary store" that people can purchase bound versions of legendary gear from - it would do several things at once:

1. Reduce the amount of gold coming into the game because people would spend AT on stuff besides efficiency potions.

2. Burn speculators who have reborn dragon rings up for several hundred FSP a pop, but at the same time not glut the market, as these items would be a nice big chunk of AT.

3. Allow players to get access to stuff that hasn't been in the caves for a long time or won't be there for a long time. I'd love to have a pharoahs set - I wouldn't pay current AH price for one. I'd be just fine with a bound set.

4. Allow the second (and first wave) arena sets to be invented at a good clip, since a lot of reborn gear is drying up, REALLY fast.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:31



I totally agree with you karinajaya , I consider my self average donator(i have 20,750 A tokens),i rather give my real money straight to HCS not first spend 150 dollars to order 1000fsp then give all those points some big guild how have just killed one Titan.



This is, I think, an excellent point. If a person is willing to pay X dollars to buy fsp and then get an epic item, wouldn't it be in HCS interests to allow them to donate X dollars and be able to select one as a loyalty reward?

In general, making a variety of routes to similar results is an excellent way to structure a game IMO. Some people donate and buy stam, some do not and all want to own some (epic?) items. Some can hunt them, some can earn fsp within the game and buy the items that were hunted and some can donate and use that approach to get the item they want.





i would have to agree with these points here. i have not donated to the that game yet most of my FSP has come from the game it self or the point rewards page, however i play everyday and my LP's should move up pretty quick so it would be nice to be able to get some components to make an epic but HCS shouldnt make it easy for us though. they should only offer 1 or 2 components and the other 1 or 2 you should have to get in a quest or earn it from the PvP arena or something along those lines.

#15 asterxemil

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 23:31

Dear Admin/Staff,

i'm request add more EPIC ITEM for Alliegence Tokens...

it's make player can use paypal/credit card to get Alliegence Tokens to buy EPIC ITEM :)

i'm hope my request can consider :)

thanks before,
karinajaya


Hmm aren't ALL the Ally-Tok items ALREADY Epic items? >.>

#16 andyvince

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 00:02

I think potion type items are suitable, as they would sink as player use them. The equipments type would accumulate eventfully making them not so special, like many of LE items already.

#17 jzarashi

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 00:32

If epic items are convertible from allegiance points, then they should be bound :)

#18 spidey101

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 04:55

my head hurts reading some of this. :P However I think its a bad idea to get epics through alegiance tolens if thats whats being proposed.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 13:14

This would be good, if they are excluded from the arena, bounded and non-tagable...meaning that it will only help with leveling/PvP/GvG somewhat.

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#20 karinajaya

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 14:26

dear all player here

that point is i'm counfuse use 48k AT for only potion epic item? lol :D

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