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#1 Mister Doom

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 20:35

First thing would be to scrap the titan drops for the winning guild completely. Instead create RP recipes for the current drops.

Amounts of RP would be based purely on how much titan HP said titan has providing a larger reward for getting kills on the higher level titans.

Every guild who scored kills on the titan would then get a % of the RP after the titans HP is completely depleted. Obviously only the top 5 earners on each titan would be ranked.

Examples would be...



Fuvayu 6k titan HP

1200 RP available.

Every 60 kills a guild makes would earn them 1% of the total kills and 12 RP points.



Tsukiyaomo 6.6k titan HP

2000 RP available

Every 66 kills a guild makes would earn them 1% of the total kills and 20 RP points.




Before anyone starts accusing me of FFS bashing of any kind, this idea was actually thought up by me AND a member of FFS :wink:

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#2 Tegger

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 20:41

Maybe.

Same as GvG, though. at least a 4 man guild to prevent the one man Titan guilds. :P

#3 DragonLord

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 20:43

I'm liking :) - opening up the titan items to a wider audience without having to take out a 2nd mortgage is always a good thing in my book ...

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 20:46

Well... at least afterward we'll hear complaining about how FFS gets all the RP from a titan and no other guild can compete, right?

Same dog, different leg.

FFS can be beat. I don't mind them ruling the titans. Enjoy. TEG was dominating only a month or so ago and I don't recall people worrying then.

Oh, and no getting rid of the titan items until IIIIII get mine. Alright? Good!

#5 Mister Doom

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:03

Well... at least afterward we'll hear complaining about how FFS gets all the RP from a titan and no other guild can compete, right?

Same dog, different leg.

FFS can be beat. I don't mind them ruling the titans. Enjoy. TEG was dominating only a month or so ago and I don't recall people worrying then.

Oh, and no getting rid of the titan items until IIIIII get mine. Alright? Good!


The current items would actually become MORE available ;)

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:05

Well, I figured THAT... which makes them ever-less-likely to afford....

*sobs*

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:14

I'm liking :) - opening up the titan items to a wider audience without having to take out a 2nd mortgage is always a good thing in my book ...


I also like and for much the same reason - I like to see a variety of ways to acquire useful items. Of course I'd also add a way to use AT to get RP or the things RP can buy.

Then if all titan items have a RP recipe, they could be acquired by:

1) titan hunts
2) GvG
3) Buying and selling the item at the AH or elsewhere, and
4) Using AT earned by playing every day and donating to the game.

I am sure I'd support other ideas as well though I cannot think of any atm :)

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:31

First thing would be to scrap the titan drops for the winning guild completely. Instead create RP recipes for the current drops.

Amounts of RP would be based purely on how much titan HP said titan has providing a larger reward for getting kills on the higher level titans.

Every guild who scored kills on the titan would then get a % of the RP after the titans HP is completely depleted. Obviously only the top 5 earners on each titan would be ranked.

Examples would be...



Fuvayu 6k titan HP

1200 RP available.

Every 60 kills a guild makes would earn them 1% of the total kills and 12 RP points.



Tsukiyaomo 6.6k titan HP

2000 RP available

Every 66 kills a guild makes would earn them 1% of the total kills and 20 RP points.




Before anyone starts accusing me of FFS bashing of any kind, this idea was actually thought up by me AND a member of FFS :wink:


LOL I am the accused so I think i should have a say.

I do not think the titan drop should be scrapped. Anyone that has won a titan, knows how much fun it is to compete. Under this proposed system, a lot of the competition is removed. Some people might think that is good, but I speak for those that do not. Changing the system this way would also discourage guild from working together, as 1 or 2 can go kill a titan and will be guaranteed some kind of reward. Right now, guilds need to be organized and work together to achieve the epic win.

Lets look at some reality.


Tsukiyaomo (Titan)

1st For Fracks Sake 4773
2nd Elysian Fields 973
3rd The Order of Knights 363
4th The warrior race 312
5th angellife 19

The last Tsuki killed. So FFS would have earned almost 5 times the RP than the second place guild. Somehow, I still think people are going to complain. Lordthade is correct "same dog, different leg."

You may say that more people will come out and hunt if this change is implemented. At first, just like the last change. But I say people need to come out and hunt the titans as they are. The current "problem" with titans is not the structure of the titan system, but the players who have given up. Is this going to ruin the game? No, the titan items are still won, RP is still earned. If you all don't like us winning, then stop buying the items. When all 124 members of FFS have an epic from each titan and no one is buying, maybe we will stop.

An old saying goes "If it aint broke, then don't fix it." I have yet to see a valid argument as to the titan system being broke. It works when people participate.

But the cows can do what they think is best in the end. It just seems to me that the titans were created to be something EPIC in the game. With these proposed changes, they become less epic than SE's, as far as the killing and teamwork goes.

So yes, I was thinking about ways to improve titans for the 2nd-5th place finishes, and for them I think a percentage would be more fair, but the winner should get something EPIC.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:34

First thing would be to scrap the titan drops for the winning guild completely. Instead create RP recipes for the current drops.

Amounts of RP would be based purely on how much titan HP said titan has providing a larger reward for getting kills on the higher level titans.

Every guild who scored kills on the titan would then get a % of the RP after the titans HP is completely depleted. Obviously only the top 5 earners on each titan would be ranked.

Examples would be...



Fuvayu 6k titan HP

1200 RP available.

Every 60 kills a guild makes would earn them 1% of the total kills and 12 RP points.



Tsukiyaomo 6.6k titan HP

2000 RP available

Every 66 kills a guild makes would earn them 1% of the total kills and 20 RP points.




Before anyone starts accusing me of FFS bashing of any kind, this idea was actually thought up by me AND a member of FFS :wink:


LOL I am the accused so I think i should have a say.

I do not think the titan drop should be scrapped. Anyone that has won a titan, knows how much fun it is to compete. Under this proposed system, a lot of the competition is removed. Some people might think that is good, but I speak for those that do not. Changing the system this way would also discourage guild from working together, as 1 or 2 can go kill a titan and will be guaranteed some kind of reward. Right now, guilds need to be organized and work together to achieve the epic win.

Lets look at some reality.


Tsukiyaomo (Titan)

1st For Fracks Sake 4773
2nd Elysian Fields 973
3rd The Order of Knights 363
4th The warrior race 312
5th angellife 19

The last Tsuki killed. So FFS would have earned almost 5 times the RP than the second place guild. Somehow, I still think people are going to complain. Lordthade is correct "same dog, different leg."

You may say that more people will come out and hunt if this change is implemented. At first, just like the last change. But I say people need to come out and hunt the titans as they are. The current "problem" with titans is not the structure of the titan system, but the players who have given up. Is this going to ruin the game? No, the titan items are still won, RP is still earned. If you all don't like us winning, then stop buying the items. When all 124 members of FFS have an epic from each titan and no one is buying, maybe we will stop.

An old saying goes "If it aint broke, then don't fix it." I have yet to see a valid argument as to the titan system being broke. It works when people participate.

But the cows can do what they think is best in the end. It just seems to me that the titans were created to be something EPIC in the game. With these proposed changes, they become less epic than SE's, as far as the killing and teamwork goes.

So yes, I was thinking about ways to improve titans for the 2nd-5th place finishes, and for them I think a percentage would be more fair, but the winner should get something EPIC.


Somehow I knew you'd start backtracking. This change would be the best possible thing for FS. You'd still be able to cream the titans and 'invent' the items ;)

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 22:13

Honestly, in my view, RP should be scrapped from the Titan system, and bringing more RP into it instead of divorcing the two is a horrible idea. RP is already flooded in the game as it is.

Make those who place in the titan rankings receive components to build the titan items, including titan specific components that would mean you couldn't hunt oggy 10 times to get a fuva rune. The winners would continue to recieve whole titan epics, but this would do two things:

1. Destroy monopolies, from anyone,

and

2. Help restabilize the market for GvG epics.

#11 fs_robotussin

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 20:31

Honestly, in my view, RP should be scrapped from the Titan system, and bringing more RP into it instead of divorcing the two is a horrible idea. RP is already flooded in the game as it is.

Make those who place in the titan rankings receive components to build the titan items, including titan specific components that would mean you couldn't hunt oggy 10 times to get a fuva rune. The winners would continue to recieve whole titan epics, but this would do two things:

1. Destroy monopolies, from anyone,

and

2. Help restabilize the market for GvG epics.



this is actually an AWESOME idea...

instead of RP, shards of epics... me likie

#12 fs_phool123

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 20:40

How did I endup posting my idea exactly while this one is being posted.
Strange.
If ya' wanna' see it:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=91797
: )

#13 fs_robotussin

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 01:05

there is a new idea on how to "improve" titans posted every 45 seconds in the forum...

#14 MaximusGR

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 01:27

there is a new idea on how to "improve" titans posted every 45 seconds in the forum...


And all the "improvements" are talking about how to prevent FFS from winning them while there is no serious effort to do that in the map...

As shown by yet another 2 Fuvayu spawns today..

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 03:13

Honestly, in my view, RP should be scrapped from the Titan system, and bringing more RP into it instead of divorcing the two is a horrible idea. RP is already flooded in the game as it is.

Make those who place in the titan rankings receive components to build the titan items, including titan specific components that would mean you couldn't hunt oggy 10 times to get a fuva rune. The winners would continue to recieve whole titan epics, but this would do two things:

1. Destroy monopolies, from anyone,

and

2. Help restabilize the market for GvG epics.



this is actually an AWESOME idea...

instead of RP, shards of epics... me likie


Yup, this is a good one.

As it is no one hunts the titans for RP pretty much as GvG is so darn easy to do.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:12

Right. I have removed all the tit for tat posts. Let's try and keep this on-topic, yes?

#17 fs_ithangor

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:20

I actually see some merit to this idea.

Whilst it wont change the domination over Titans, at least it opens it up to anyone over level 100. They can go in, make 60 or more kills and at least get a few RP for their trouble.

It will get more of the community involved and it may actually encourage players to try harder on Titans once they realise that they can do it. I think one of the main problems that restrict players trying, is failing. Blowing 1K or more stamina for no return is quite disheartening, so at least anyone who gets the required 60 kills will have something to show for it.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 16:15

Honestly, in my view, RP should be scrapped from the Titan system, and bringing more RP into it instead of divorcing the two is a horrible idea. RP is already flooded in the game as it is.

Make those who place in the titan rankings receive components to build the titan items, including titan specific components that would mean you couldn't hunt oggy 10 times to get a fuva rune. The winners would continue to recieve whole titan epics, but this would do two things:

1. Destroy monopolies, from anyone,

and

2. Help restabilize the market for GvG epics.


Bump.

#19 jinks

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 16:36

Honestly, in my view, RP should be scrapped from the Titan system, and bringing more RP into it instead of divorcing the two is a horrible idea. RP is already flooded in the game as it is.

Make those who place in the titan rankings receive components to build the titan items, including titan specific components that would mean you couldn't hunt oggy 10 times to get a fuva rune. The winners would continue to recieve whole titan epics, but this would do two things:

1. Destroy monopolies, from anyone,

and

2. Help restabilize the market for GvG epics.


This is an awesome idea.

Leave rp purely for gvg and give either components or a % of the epic to guilds coming in 2nd - 5th.

In all reality 98% of the time, smaller guilds never stand a cat in hells chance of getting the titan epic any other way than buying it.

This would give everyone a chance to win it for themselves over a period of however many titan hunts.

#20 Mister Doom

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 16:43

How would you get different Titan components? Place differently? Nah, I don't buy that, scrap the titan drop altogether..

If titans don't give out RP let them give out TP, build your own epics built from TP purchased components?

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