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#341 ludwigo

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:31

again "perfect" HSC desision

good idea with new epics open without thinking what will come :( same AS GVG and friendly conflicts

you told quest are hard .....hmmmmmm i do quest for lvl 300 in 10min got earth hammer
than spend 4fsp by crafting and than another 5 by hellforging (incluuded money\)

I disagree with any rollback and items tagged for guild should remain tagged

and not untagging to player who is currently wearing

for a sample player do a quest will go to holiday return back after week and upsssss suprice items is no more tagged and fsp invested for guild defacto will be lost really fair thx a lot

#342 shdowdrgn

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:32

Hoof! please i am begging you come and fix this. you have nearly all of FS in an uproar here. step in and do something. PLEASE

#343 RayneRaven

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:32

Some of my Ideas :

ROLLBACK , so everyone will lose EPICS but everyone will be able to Re-DO Quest , add some reserve stamina , add new LE , no to caves but make a realm ..

or ...

Make Item Crystalline so they will all will be destroyed in few years :P

or ...

Change item rarity from ,,EPIC´´ to Rare , Decrease stats (keep stam gain pls) .. or just remove damage/attack stat and higher XP , Stam Gain so item will be good while we are not hunting .. and allow everyone to re-DO new quest .. I like the idea with 2700 kills .. rewards from quest will be really called ,,EPIC´´ then .. but make more spawns at once .. Like 4-5 so players with slow internet connection will be able to do the quest too .

or ...

Make a ,,Risk´´ Button .. something like this : YOu have 35% chance to obtain ,,XXX Item´´ but after try your Air ElementalAirJavelin will dissapeear ... this may greatly reduce ammout of Javelins in game .. so AH wont be fludded with Javelins and rarity of Javelins will rise ....




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Um and I also like an idea with Recipe .. Make the quest with 2 rewards .. first will befor players who dont have Javelins .. they will obtain anything other and second may be .. Recipe for upgrading of Javelin .. (make them bounds and recipe will unbound them :P)

#344 fs_yesimevil

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:32

You're kidding. Now im stuck with a sub-par item for being FASTER to complete a quest than For Fracks Sake?

#345 Nagoyaka

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:33

make a new quest where the reward is a recipe to upgrade our current epics to the new super stated ones.



+1



That is an excelent idea. But if people have sold items and such they will have another quest they cannot do.


You have unbound the items, so those who sold them can buy them back. It still seems the fairest solution


those that bought multiple of them for guild will still lose fsp for the ones extra + any forging and crafting

#346 fs_abhishek11

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:33

wadeo69 says: exc ffgd air javelin in my ah 10 fsp

hehehehehe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#347 fs_coheedsstb

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:33

HCS,

You messed up. Big. Please stop with your knee-jerk reactions. The flood gate is closed for the new Epic items and you now have a few options that have been said in here.

1.) Rollback. It sucks, no one likes them. But it is the only way to restore everyone to an equal standing.

2.) Merge the old Epic items with the new ones to where there are not two versions and leave the quest in its new stage to keep the flood gate closed. The people who got through in the first 24hrs will be lucky. But, it was your mistake afterall.

3.) A quest to update the old Epic item into the new. Too many people have sold their items. This will only create more chaos.

My vote is option 2. This is YOUR mistake. Do not punish us for it by making us replay our last 24hrs or screwing over people who have already bought/sold/upgrade the items.



Drimm is the man for option 2... i agree 1000000^10% with this. although i think there should be some kind of option to do a quest or something to make the items unbound... ESPECIALLY if the new ones are unbound... a rollback is the worst option by far of the possibilities

#348 fs_moxcyn

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:33

HCS,

You messed up. Big. Please stop with your knee-jerk reactions. [...]

2.) Merge the old Epic items with the new ones to where there are not two versions and leave the quest in its new stage to keep the flood gate closed. The people who got through in the first 24hrs will be lucky. But, it was your mistake afterall.


X a million!

Isn't there a site that shows how many items there are of each item...

I doubt there's more than a few hundred of each items floating around out there...

This will also keep greedy titan hunters from charging 5k-6k for the first drops... Because most of those who would pay that amount - will already have it (either by doing the quest or buying it now).

#349 Jonah Tebaa

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:34

Something HAS TO BE DONE HERE! Whatever choice you take, HCS, there is a mess. But what you are doing is stacking mess over mess... over mess!!!!

Stop any actions! Make all items temporarily bound and no new epics respawn. THINK. Think more, and more and more. Chat with us on the forum. Chat more, read, chat, read....

One idea I can give you is you make all new epics unbound but crystaline. this will make the player who wins it think a lot before selling it since he can not win another one. Also, make each player be able to win only one new epic and not more. so u choose which epic you want to win.

We all love this game, and personally I donate not for the FSPs only, but to thank you guys for what you do. Please, dont mess things up anymore, take some time and then get back to us.

Thank you,

Jonah Tebaa

#350 fs_cobra7781

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:34

make a new quest where the reward is a recipe to upgrade our current epics to the new super stated ones.


I think this is a good idea. That way those of us who have already completed quests can decide for ourselves if we want to upgrade our spoils.

Virtually yours,
Zennaro



got to agree with this i think this is a great idea a recipe to upgrade the epics we have :)

#351 fs_smunn02

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:34

Also, how many people are likely to be buying the epics in this next week when they know it'll be bound, and they'll have to discard it when they get the next one, losing the FSP they spend buying, crafting and forging it?

Not to mention that they'll be able to get a much, much improved one for free with some hard work.


If you are at or near level 500 (for example) - it is WELL worth buying the Elemental Trident, even if you throw it away a couple hundred levels later. You can build a better setup with that trident than the bladed war gauntlets.

I LIKE my flamey blade - even if someone else can get a better one.

And I did go through and make my own runes and such for that quest, got all the drops myself to get into the realm, etc. :D


Yeah, the quests were fun and a nice change. However the point still remains that there are likely to be many, many more people selling than buying. Right now there are 5 pages of Hammers, down to around 40-45fsp. 12 pages of Javelins for 35-38 fsp or so. Give it a day or two of the news seeping out and there could be double the pages, for an eighth of the price as people undercut and undercut. Good in the sense that you'll be able to pick up a +2 stam item for 5fsp, even if you have to discard it, I suppose.

#352 fs_fradiavolo

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:34

you have to understand that the quest was never intended to be as easy as it was. Its like giving away an EPIC item for a normal quest reward. Hence the changes and also the item changes.

The game mechanics are complex, flooding the game with epic items was not intended. I mean if we did a roll-back you would loose it all - would you rather have the epic items or loose it altogether? :D


So take it out on your QA department and/or whoever green-lighted this release, not your customers.




Indeed: Save changes for next time. Leave it as it was yesterday

#353 Trailman

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:36

so again I ask, what about all those people who paid out the whazoo for inferior versions? And a rollback would hurt you??only if you are one of the ones profitting from this mistake. Such objections can only come from those who Did make out like bandits and don't want to see their windfalls go down the drain even though someone has suffered because of it. How about putting greed to the side and permitting them to follow the only course that will be fair to all. With a rollback everyone has what the had before hand, no loss from forging crappy items, no potions wasted, nothing, nada.





I made a very nice profit from these items and I am still calling for a rollback. It is the only way to keep it fair to all in the game. I am very unhappy with this option because of where I am and again I will lose a level and have to redo a quest. I have also invested in those epics and forged them as well, without the rollback that investment is lost when the new ones come out. :idea:

#354 boeffie

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:36

Keep quests and items as they are, unbound, add new quest that needs one of the weapons as well as a number of titans killed, makes for a truly epic quest, with greatly reduced number of real Epic items

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#355 fs_saintlytl

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:37

We were the 1st guild to be posted as the Earth Guardian Titan slayer in the news feed, ok. So what if it was underpowered or only took one hit to kill or multiple kills, there were 2 of us killing it.

The quest clearly stated in black and white "1 kill" to complete the quest...Your fault not ours! And this was after you corrected the glitch, i did'nt know you messed up! I waited for many hours as did many for the Titan spawn. I did wear my spear with pride in what i acomplished and now you say we have to pay for your mistakes??? You guys fail big time on this F up

#356 Nagoyaka

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:37

im going outside to scream, or something similar. surely i hope you find a solution, i won't stay if this stays untouched

#357 Snakeviper47

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:38

I have to say do not do a rollback its a mess and will just cause a storm of complaints rolling in defently for the people who bought fsp through this time PLEASE DO NOT ROLL BACK ITS A MESS :!: :!:

#358 Keysi

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:39

HOOF,

I lost over 60 fsp only on crafting bug when you guys restored craft..now i lost more fsp,and you guys still don`t know what to do..ROLLBACK+RESERVE STAM gain or give enough fsp to every merchant.

#359 Yuuzhan

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:39

Keep quests and items as they are, unbound, add new quest that needs one of the weapons as well as a number of titans killed, makes for a truly epic quest, with greatly reduced number of real Epic items

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+1

that way people will still want the current "epic" items sans upgrading, and you have the option of spending the time to upgrade one. should fix the market (limited number will be created from now on, and current ones wont lose all value)

#360 kaos073

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 18:39

Keep quests and items as they are, unbound, add new quest that needs one of the weapons as well as a number of titans killed, makes for a truly epic quest, with greatly reduced number of real Epic items
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Yes, and I take back my vote for a rollback because I forgot about the loss of those who did rewards points or made purchases over the last day...


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