Link please. This doesn't sound like Forn!
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 13:07
Posted 20 March 2010 - 13:09
Link please. This doesn't sound like Forn!also dont forget it was down to the players feedback that we chose this direction.
ok. But you realise that most likley the majority of the players that were online [and gave feedback] when this came down had already done the quest - and of course (doh!) they wanted it to go down the way it now became
Posted 20 March 2010 - 13:10
They were intended to be even harder than they are now! It was a glitch in the way the titan defeat and the ultimate kill of the titan were registered in the quest that caused the problem.
We did think of creating bound items and rolling back and more..but ultimately the way we chose to go was the one we felt was the best and also dont forget it was down to the players feedback that we chose this direction.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 13:17
Posted 20 March 2010 - 13:20
I don't care. Take it in contextLink please. This doesn't sound like Forn!ok. But you realise that most likley the majority of the players that were online [and gave feedback] when this came down had already done the quest - and of course (doh!) they wanted it to go down the way it now became
Unfortunately Luis, it WAS Forns comment - replied to post i made
Not a sniped version.They were intended to be even harder than they are now! It was a glitch in the way the titan defeat and the ultimate kill of the titan were registered in the quest that caused the problem.
We did think of creating bound items and rolling back and more..but ultimately the way we chose to go was the one we felt was the best and also dont forget it was down to the players feedback that we chose this direction.
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:24
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:28
Why bother argueing people? Forn and Hoof have their minds set...just stop now
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:31
Not weak one bit but think of it. Is it fair that the players who jumped on the quest travelling through tremendous lag get pentalized for being there first? No. I agree with one arguement...2700 kills for a level 100 Titan only going up from 300, 500, and 700 is far too great. It really shouldn't be more then 300-500 killsWhy bother argueing people? Forn and Hoof have their minds set...just stop now
God Neil are you really so weak that all you do is care what happens to you in the game and refuse to stand up for what is right.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:40
Not weak one bit but think of it. Is it fair that the players who jumped on the quest travelling through tremendous lag get pentalized for being there first? No. I agree with one arguement...2700 kills for a level 100 Titan only going up from 300, 500, and 700 is far too great. It really shouldn't be more then 300-500 killsWhy bother argueing people? Forn and Hoof have their minds set...just stop now
God Neil are you really so weak that all you do is care what happens to you in the game and refuse to stand up for what is right.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:43
Say what you wish, I'm standing up for what I think is RIGHT!!!! I am on your side for ONE thing, lower the kills.Not weak one bit but think of it. Is it fair that the players who jumped on the quest travelling through tremendous lag get pentalized for being there first? No. I agree with one arguement...2700 kills for a level 100 Titan only going up from 300, 500, and 700 is far too great. It really shouldn't be more then 300-500 kills
God Neil are you really so weak that all you do is care what happens to you in the game and refuse to stand up for what is right.
SO is it fair that because you got a one kill epic drop that was then made even better and there is now only one way to get that same item which is to use at least 2700 times the stamina 24 hours earlier. No your not weak just an opportunist who doesnt care about over all fair play. Good on you
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:46
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:49
Is this your people's answer to everything? Everytime theres a mistake its rollback. No. Do you know how many people hunted? They realeased the new areas so high level 800 players took possibly hours to hunt, Conflicts were won, Arenas were won, money donated to game. You gotta take all this into affect. Its far too late for a rollbackMany pages ago I said this, and I will say it again. I have the shiny trident - it is very nice, it will make my hunting life very easy and I can put my Brides set in mothballs now. However I would gladly lose my shiny trident in order to see this mess fixed.
Rollback. It is the only way. Yes some folk will lose hunts, yes some folk will lose invented items, but far more will benefit from an unmistakably level playing field. Apologies to all those who beta (or alpha!) tested the original quests, but they were so flawed as to be unmanageable. Rollback and do it right. If these people (our alpha/beta testers) can be given extra extra reserve stam to make up for their efforts, so be it. Rollback solves the problem of a flooded market, allows the new epics to be exactly that and allows the quests to be as intended. I think the game atmosphere will benefit from a rollback. Everyone who has paid attention will know how much things went wrong, and needed to be fixed. The new round of complaints will largely be led by those who made huge profit in the AH/want to hold onto their cheaply gained epics.
HCS - you screwed up. Admit it and wipe the slate clean and try again. And address the issues of epic item stats, elemental titans and RP farming etc. When the database went down and the game was out we effectively had a large rollback - do it again now because as it stands it seems that you may be alienating too many players, or have you done that calculation already - the number of happy epic wielding players versus the number of disenfranchised disillusioned players?
Rollback.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:55
Is this your people's answer to everything? Everytime theres a mistake its rollback. No. Do you know how many people hunted? They realeased the new areas so high level 800 players took possibly hours to hunt, Conflicts were won, Arenas were won, money donated to game. You gotta take all this into affect. Its far too late for a rollbackMany pages ago I said this, and I will say it again. I have the shiny trident - it is very nice, it will make my hunting life very easy and I can put my Brides set in mothballs now. However I would gladly lose my shiny trident in order to see this mess fixed.
Rollback. It is the only way. Yes some folk will lose hunts, yes some folk will lose invented items, but far more will benefit from an unmistakably level playing field. Apologies to all those who beta (or alpha!) tested the original quests, but they were so flawed as to be unmanageable. Rollback and do it right. If these people (our alpha/beta testers) can be given extra extra reserve stam to make up for their efforts, so be it. Rollback solves the problem of a flooded market, allows the new epics to be exactly that and allows the quests to be as intended. I think the game atmosphere will benefit from a rollback. Everyone who has paid attention will know how much things went wrong, and needed to be fixed. The new round of complaints will largely be led by those who made huge profit in the AH/want to hold onto their cheaply gained epics.
HCS - you screwed up. Admit it and wipe the slate clean and try again. And address the issues of epic item stats, elemental titans and RP farming etc. When the database went down and the game was out we effectively had a large rollback - do it again now because as it stands it seems that you may be alienating too many players, or have you done that calculation already - the number of happy epic wielding players versus the number of disenfranchised disillusioned players?
Rollback.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:56
Is this your people's answer to everything? Everytime theres a mistake its rollback. No. Do you know how many people hunted? They realeased the new areas so high level 800 players took possibly hours to hunt, Conflicts were won, Arenas were won, money donated to game. You gotta take all this into affect. Its far too late for a rollbackMany pages ago I said this, and I will say it again. I have the shiny trident - it is very nice, it will make my hunting life very easy and I can put my Brides set in mothballs now. However I would gladly lose my shiny trident in order to see this mess fixed.
Rollback. It is the only way. Yes some folk will lose hunts, yes some folk will lose invented items, but far more will benefit from an unmistakably level playing field. Apologies to all those who beta (or alpha!) tested the original quests, but they were so flawed as to be unmanageable. Rollback and do it right. If these people (our alpha/beta testers) can be given extra extra reserve stam to make up for their efforts, so be it. Rollback solves the problem of a flooded market, allows the new epics to be exactly that and allows the quests to be as intended. I think the game atmosphere will benefit from a rollback. Everyone who has paid attention will know how much things went wrong, and needed to be fixed. The new round of complaints will largely be led by those who made huge profit in the AH/want to hold onto their cheaply gained epics.
HCS - you screwed up. Admit it and wipe the slate clean and try again. And address the issues of epic item stats, elemental titans and RP farming etc. When the database went down and the game was out we effectively had a large rollback - do it again now because as it stands it seems that you may be alienating too many players, or have you done that calculation already - the number of happy epic wielding players versus the number of disenfranchised disillusioned players?
Rollback.
I know that all of your objections seem to add up to "let me keep my shiny javelin" Neil. I am aware of the number of actions that may well have occurred in the time required. Game balance has been affected, and at base - the quest roll out was bad and has adversely affected too many aspects of the game - hunting/arena, the AH, epic market etc. I am not saying that this is ideal, or even nice, but the status quo isn't that pleasant either. I would rather take a rollback than the status quo, that is my position.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:57
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:58
Posted 20 March 2010 - 14:59
And mine is set dead against them, too many players will be affected, and honestly if it wasn't for the amount of players who hunted, won arenas, conflicts, even Titans, etc. would be affected I would gladly hand in my Javelin and kill 2700 Titans, even though thats not really the fair way. Forn says the quests were meant to be harder. He's lieing. It took over 24 hourse for them to notice this. The quests were meant to be 1 kill but because of complaints and whiners the quests were made that much harder.Is this your people's answer to everything? Everytime theres a mistake its rollback. No. Do you know how many people hunted? They realeased the new areas so high level 800 players took possibly hours to hunt, Conflicts were won, Arenas were won, money donated to game. You gotta take all this into affect. Its far too late for a rollbackMany pages ago I said this, and I will say it again. I have the shiny trident - it is very nice, it will make my hunting life very easy and I can put my Brides set in mothballs now. However I would gladly lose my shiny trident in order to see this mess fixed.
Rollback. It is the only way. Yes some folk will lose hunts, yes some folk will lose invented items, but far more will benefit from an unmistakably level playing field. Apologies to all those who beta (or alpha!) tested the original quests, but they were so flawed as to be unmanageable. Rollback and do it right. If these people (our alpha/beta testers) can be given extra extra reserve stam to make up for their efforts, so be it. Rollback solves the problem of a flooded market, allows the new epics to be exactly that and allows the quests to be as intended. I think the game atmosphere will benefit from a rollback. Everyone who has paid attention will know how much things went wrong, and needed to be fixed. The new round of complaints will largely be led by those who made huge profit in the AH/want to hold onto their cheaply gained epics.
HCS - you screwed up. Admit it and wipe the slate clean and try again. And address the issues of epic item stats, elemental titans and RP farming etc. When the database went down and the game was out we effectively had a large rollback - do it again now because as it stands it seems that you may be alienating too many players, or have you done that calculation already - the number of happy epic wielding players versus the number of disenfranchised disillusioned players?
Rollback.
I know that all of your objections seem to add up to "let me keep my shiny javelin" Neil. I am aware of the number of actions that may well have occurred in the time required. Game balance has been affected, and at base - the quest roll out was bad and has adversely affected too many aspects of the game - hunting/arena, the AH, epic market etc. I am not saying that this is ideal, or even nice, but the status quo isn't that pleasant either. I would rather take a rollback than the status quo, that is my position.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:03
Of course you would. I believe you. But since you already have your epic with one kill, no point in doing that anymore, right? You are so honest.And mine is set dead against them, too many players will be affected, and honestly if it wasn't for the amount of players who hunted, won arenas, conflicts, even Titans, etc. would be affected I would gladly hand in my Javelin and kill 2700 Titans, even though thats not really the fair way. Forn says the quests were meant to be harder. He's lieing. It took over 24 hourse for them to notice this. The quests were meant to be 1 kill but because of complaints and whiners the quests were made that much harder.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:05
Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:06
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