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#581 Belaric

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:07

I recognise that Forn and Hoof talked about a rollback and discounted it. I simply wished to state my case. So we will have to live in the new FS world that has been made around us by the decisions made by HCS - this has always been so, and for the most part has been a lot of fun! We have had flaws and glitches happen before, and after a while the ripples smoothed out - the scavenging glitch for instance. Hopefully this will also work itself out over time.

I would merely ask, in a spirit of tired resignation, that the HCS team rigorously test their new ideas before unleashing them. I know that seems a reach.

I hope you guys are beta testing Eldevin to the limit, because otherwise it is going to be stillborn, if it ever arrives.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:09

I recognise that Forn and Hoof talked about a rollback and discounted it. I simply wished to state my case. So we will have to live in the new FS world that has been made around us by the decisions made by HCS - this has always been so, and for the most part has been a lot of fun! We have had flaws and glitches happen before, and after a while the ripples smoothed out - the scavenging glitch for instance. Hopefully this will also work itself out over time.

I would merely ask, in a spirit of tired resignation, that the HCS team rigorously test their new ideas before unleashing them. I know that seems a reach.

I hope you guys are beta testing Eldevin to the limit, because otherwise it is going to be stillborn, if it ever arrives.


LMAO

So agreed

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#583 FORN

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:10

And mine is set dead against them, too many players will be affected, and honestly if it wasn't for the amount of players who hunted, won arenas, conflicts, even Titans, etc. would be affected I would gladly hand in my Javelin and kill 2700 Titans, even though thats not really the fair way. Forn says the quests were meant to be harder. He's lieing. It took over 24 hourse for them to notice this. The quests were meant to be 1 kill but because of complaints and whiners the quests were made that much harder.

Of course you would. I believe you. But since you already have your epic with one kill, no point in doing that anymore, right? You are so honest.



Not a lie, the quests were actualy were intended to be even harder than they are now! one kill titan for an epic was not ment to happen. It is now in its intended state.

On the note of a rollback, me an hoof disscussed this and decided it was not the way to go. We are happy with the chosen path.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:11

And mine is set dead against them, too many players will be affected, and honestly if it wasn't for the amount of players who hunted, won arenas, conflicts, even Titans, etc. would be affected I would gladly hand in my Javelin and kill 2700 Titans, even though thats not really the fair way. Forn says the quests were meant to be harder. He's lieing. It took over 24 hourse for them to notice this. The quests were meant to be 1 kill but because of complaints and whiners the quests were made that much harder.

Of course you would. I believe you. But since you already have your epic with one kill, no point in doing that anymore, right? You are so honest.



Not a lie, the quests were actualy were intended to be even harder than they are now! one kill titan for an epic was not ment to happen. It is now in its intended state.

On the note of a rollback, me an hoof disscussed this and decided it was not the way to go. We are happy with the chosen path.

Forn I understand that, not gonna argue with it. But come on 2700 Titan kills for a level 100? Thats ridiculous, its just gonna be another Titan market

#585 DaleJunior

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:16

Forn...oh Forn....could you maybe take our minds off of this quest for a while, reach over to your keyboard and click the "Release LE into the Caves" button? Might ease tensions a bit...hehe...

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:17

And mine is set dead against them, too many players will be affected, and honestly if it wasn't for the amount of players who hunted, won arenas, conflicts, even Titans, etc. would be affected I would gladly hand in my Javelin and kill 2700 Titans, even though thats not really the fair way. Forn says the quests were meant to be harder. He's lieing. It took over 24 hourse for them to notice this. The quests were meant to be 1 kill but because of complaints and whiners the quests were made that much harder.

Of course you would. I believe you. But since you already have your epic with one kill, no point in doing that anymore, right? You are so honest.



Not a lie, the quests were actualy were intended to be even harder than they are now! one kill titan for an epic was not ment to happen. It is now in its intended state.

On the note of a rollback, me an hoof disscussed this and decided it was not the way to go. We are happy with the chosen path.


so it took people actually telling you that its only 1 kill to look at the Quest text?... how's THAT for lame beta testing?

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:18

Not a lie, the quests were actualy were intended to be even harder than they are now! one kill titan for an epic was not ment to happen. It is now in its intended state.

On the note of a rollback, me an hoof disscussed this and decided it was not the way to go. We are happy with the chosen path.

I understand that HCS intended this to be the Ultimate Quest for Ultimate Weapon. But it is far too late for that. The damage done by the terrible decision you made is disastrous and no way to fix it. Ultimate weapon? Come on! Every Elemental epic gear in existence gained by a single kill, none of them gained by 2700 kill. Absolutely none. There's no way you could deny that.

So, please consider my suggestion:

1. Do not roll back. Instead, nerf make the elemental epic gear. Make them weak. Possibly without the +2 stamina. Perhaps only +1 stamina. Do not reset the craft and forges.
2. Continue the quest for each epic by creating a new one. In this quest, you need to kill 500 titan and the elemental gear. When you finished, you'll receive the powerful "Reborn Elemental" gear.
3. Problem solved.

#588 neil7887

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:20

To be honest Forn, make this whole quest a 1 kill then make it higher for the next Epic quests...allow EVERYONE to complete at least one of these quests, that way we have no complainers and everyone's happy. :D :D :D :D

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:21

The kills are reflective of the actual structure points of the Titan - we could change it so you must kill it compleatly! but we wont.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:22

The kills are reflective of the actual structure points of the Titan - we could change it so you must kill it compleatly! but we wont.


yeah , give it 1 hp and change it to that .. problem solved

#591 Denyza

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:23

To be honest Forn, make this whole quest a 1 kill then make it higher for the next Epic quests...allow EVERYONE to complete at least one of these quests, that way we have no complainers and everyone's happy. :D :D :D :D


You still trying to keep your shiny gear aren't you.
Shameful.
Nerf is the best way for all parties and you know it.

#592 neil7887

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:23

The kills are reflective of the actual structure points of the Titan - we could change it so you must kill it compleatly! but we wont.

Why don't you do my option :cry: it seems fair. Noone loses anything on the items, and everyone can get at least the weapon. Then for the next batch do your option or listen to Feedback and make it like 500 kills :D.
Beats a rollback
Beats making people who jumped on the quest lose their items
And allows everyone to obtain one without months of Titan work which not everyone is good at :D :D :D

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:24

To be honest Forn, make this whole quest a 1 kill then make it higher for the next Epic quests...allow EVERYONE to complete at least one of these quests, that way we have no complainers and everyone's happy. :D :D :D :D


You still trying to keep your shiny gear aren't you.
Shameful.
Nerf is the best way for all parties and you know it.

No I'm not. I'm trying to make it so everyone can get one this round then make it harder next round :D

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:25

To be honest Forn, make this whole quest a 1 kill then make it higher for the next Epic quests...allow EVERYONE to complete at least one of these quests, that way we have no complainers and everyone's happy. :D :D :D :D


You still trying to keep your shiny gear aren't you.
Shameful.
Nerf is the best way for all parties and you know it.

No I'm not. I'm trying to make it so everyone can get one this round then make it harder next round :D


yet you're trying to avoid any scenario that would require you to re-do the quest...

#595 neil7887

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:26



You still trying to keep your shiny gear aren't you.
Shameful.
Nerf is the best way for all parties and you know it.

No I'm not. I'm trying to make it so everyone can get one this round then make it harder next round :D


yet you're trying to avoid any scenario that would require you to re-do the quest...

DX Why does everyone think I'm saying this to keep my Javelin? I would gladly redo the quest and kill the Titan 2700 times if I had to.

#596 DaleJunior

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:28

You guys are wasting your breath. They've made their decision. I, for one, am one of the lucky ones, I have my Level 300 Earth Hammer. Unfortunately, with my slow computer connection and ancient computer I will most likely never be able to earn the next 2 epic weapons. I will have to pay large amounts of fsp to obtain one by then, I am sure. Only thing we can do is just accept it and move on. Now Forn, about those Legendaries in the caves........ :twisted:

#597 neil7887

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:29

You guys are wasting your breath. They've made their decision. I, for one, am one of the lucky ones, I have my Level 300 Earth Hammer. Unfortunately, with my slow computer connection and ancient computer I will most likely never be able to earn the next 2 epic weapons. I will have to pay large amounts of fsp to obtain one by then, I am sure. Only thing we can do is just accept it and move on. Now Forn, about those Legendaries in the caves........ :twisted:

SEE!!! Hes the heartless one not me DX I'm trying to make it so everyone can obtain one :( is that so bad?

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:29

You guys are wasting your breath. They've made their decision. I, for one, am one of the lucky ones, I have my Level 300 Earth Hammer. Unfortunately, with my slow computer connection and ancient computer I will most likely never be able to earn the next 2 epic weapons. I will have to pay large amounts of fsp to obtain one by then, I am sure. Only thing we can do is just accept it and move on. Now Forn, about those Legendaries in the caves........ :twisted:


more like wearing out my keyboard :D

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:30

Why don't you do my option :cry: it seems fair. Noone loses anything on the items, and everyone can get at least the weapon. Then for the next batch do your option or listen to Feedback and make it like 500 kills :D.
Beats a rollback
Beats making people who jumped on the quest lose their items
And allows everyone to obtain one without months of Titan work which not everyone is good at :D :D :D

DX Why does everyone think I'm saying this to keep my Javelin? I would gladly redo the quest and kill the Titan 2700 times if I had to.

Because your suggest us to keep the epic gained by 1 kill. ONE. Which shows that you want to keep it. Be less obvious please.

Let's make one thing clear. If my logic server me right, HCS wanted the reborn elemental epic to be the "Ultimate Weapon". But gaining them with one kill is wrong wrong wrong. Please, consider my suggestion for a tiny bit.

1. Do not roll back. Instead, nerf make the elemental epic gear. Make them weak. Possibly without the +2 stamina. Perhaps only +1 stamina. Do not reset the craft and forges.
2. Continue the quest for each epic by creating a new one. In this quest, you need to kill 500 titan and the elemental gear. When you finished, you'll receive the powerful "Reborn Elemental" gear.

If anyone could point out the weak point for this, I would be very grateful.

#600 sohail94

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:33

Just reset the quest so its 1 kill for evryone because evryone who has this epic has obtained it using 1 kill so why not let everyone one kill it?
seriously you guys didnt think this out .
for the next batch of Epic quests reflect the amount of kills on the titan lvl and stats
but for now leave it as 1 kill since its virtually impossible to kill the titan 2700,3600 ... etc times
im not whining im expressing my point of view

when theres at least 300 - 500 people on one map day in day out killing the same titans how is it possible to get 2700 kills? even the best hunter cant do tht


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