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#141 fs_coheedsstb

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:41

You won't lose the old item and you will be able to do the quest again.

I understand not everyone will be happy with this, but we have to do what is fair for the majority of players.

I want to thank you for the 500 extra stam that you gave everybody...lets see I can use it to kill maybe 250 titans if I'm extremely lucky still not get an epic item waste another what 10-15K of stam to get the same item that some got for one killing a Titan plus they get the extra stam and you call this fair for the majority. Who are you kidding??? HCS this is so monstrously unfair that it is epic in proportion to the rest of your screw-up's. You made a mistake great so now for most of us you compound that mistake by making it impossible to be on equal footing with those who have already obtained the items. But wait you made it fair for me...you gave me 500 stam...no...the only way for it to be fair is to go back to the original release and correct your mistake in later releases but leave this as it was. Really disappointed that this knee jerk solution was the best that you could come up with. How sad.


It'll go toward your medal though right :wink:

#142 neil7887

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:41

Its a game people xD I know its unfair to those of you who didn't get it but doesn't that make it more worthwhile and a keepsake then doing what I did? Once I get to 300 I'm gonna work my @$$ off to get the Hammer I'm not gonna buy it, cause I want to earn it. So stop complaining, its more of an acomplishent with what your doing compared to what others do....you may gotta kill more but you get something HCs can't give you. Pride.

#143 dethtol

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:42

And to all the people who are saying you had 2 days to hunt I'm sorry but when did the titans come out? Not all of us can sit at FS all day some people have jobs others have school, they could have left it the same for at least a full 48 hours. I actually planned to come home from work today and get my 2 epics that I was able to get. Sure they could have made it a bit harder to get the items to kill the titan but their "fix" is a$$ end up.

#144 fs_orinjaxx

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:43

1 kill really didn't seem like enough to qualify as "Epic". But 2,700 (and progressively higher for the 300, 500 and 700 by what I've read) seems excessive. If you were buying stam to hunt them (1 FSP=25 stam), you would need 108 FSP assuming all 1 hit kills. The javelin still isn't selling for that much in the AH. So I see no reason why anyone would bother doing the re-vamped quests as they now are. However, why can't you simply change the quest XP to properly compensate the people doing the new quest for the extra stam and time required? 2,700 kills with walking around and the inevitable 2 hit kills must take at least 3,000 stam to complete. Using buffs and potions, I can get around 15 mil XP for that amount of stam at my level. So why should I do the quest for 53,462 XP? Change the quest XP. This seems fair to me. Those who only required 1 hit to get their item still have the unused stam points to go out and hunt for XP if they so choose.

I still think the 2,700 kills is excessive and I hope the last change to these quests we will see is to have that amount reduced. But as long as the quest XP is reflective of the time and stam required to finish it, I think this is probably the best possible solution at this point. There is no way everyone is going to be happy no matter what happens now, though.

#145 fs_nicodemus3

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:45

all i have to say is this. complaining when hcs is done with a thread is useless. they've made their decisions and are sticking by it.


Why do you really think the quest was changed in the first place??? People like you whining.

#146 fs_darklordsh

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:45

My thought is just made the ques condition same as it is yesterday and every people will be happy. Everyone gets a same quest and it is fair. Who cares about the quest is epic or not? We play the game for fun not for torture ourselves. Killing thousand of titan would take months as there is not only you but hundreds of people out there do the same quest.
Personally, I did the first 3 quests, so I aren't hurt from this. Just want to say my thoughts as it doesn't seem fair to me.

#147 ironcire

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:46

Everyone had the opportunity of doing the Quests...they've been out more then 24 hours, those who wanted to wait...thats your own fault not ours. So don't whine cause you gotta hunt 2700 or more titans. Think of this um well statment/quote: "The early bird gets the worm" the people who did this early get it easier, the people who wanted to wait...its your own fault



Do you even realize what you're saying?? Everyone who did the quests and got the rewards for killing one titan essentally got rewarded for exploiting a glitch in the quest that was never meant to happen. If you think you deserve to have an EPIC weapon for putting in 20 mins worth of work for it, then you're seriously delusional. All they have done is make instant FSP profits for people who exploited the quests and hoarded the items.


As a merchant yourself, wouldn't you have been one of the "hoarders" if given the opportunity? Be honest... i'm not a merchant and i wish i had done some hoarding last night...


Absolutely not.. if you have been reading the FSBox lately, I have actually been campaigning against people buying these new epics... that was until HCS just momentarily made each item that was worth 20 fsp, worth 200-300 FSP and it will only continue to increase. There was no need for me to hoard the items as I was not worried about completeing the quests.. they only took a level 700 person 1800stamina to complete, so i was going to get my own. that's why they were so cheap and not worth hording because they TOOK ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT TO OBTAIN. I knew there was an error in the quests when the first came out.. their delivery was terrible and HCS basically gave the best weapons in the entire game to people who exploited a glitch in the quests. While that is their fault, it's extremely unfair to make people who waited to complete the quests use thousands upon thousands of stamina to get the exact same item everyone else got in 45 minutes. I am a fair merchant and I didnt even buy one single new weapon... because the quest and its delivery was horrible.

#148 Mekrushu

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:46

VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION:

Put everything back to the way it was, stats and all, make the components and runes BOUND and ADD PART 2 to the quest!!! Part 2 being, kill a zillion titans to get the new improved stats...how hard is that HCS?

Either that, or change it to ONE titan kill, like everyone else had to do!

#149 fs_coheedsstb

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:47

1 kill really didn't seem like enough to qualify as "Epic". But 2,700 (and progressively higher for the 300, 500 and 700 by what I've read) seems excessive. If you were buying stam to hunt them (1 FSP=25 stam), you would need 108 FSP assuming all 1 hit kills. The javelin still isn't selling for that much in the AH. So I see no reason why anyone would bother doing the re-vamped quests as they now are. However, why can't you simply change the quest XP to properly compensate the people doing the new quest for the extra stam and time required? 2,700 kills with walking around and the inevitable 2 hit kills must take at least 3,000 stam to complete. Using buffs and potions, I can get around 15 mil XP for that amount of stam at my level. So why should I do the quest for 53,462 XP? Change the quest XP. This seems fair to me. Those who only required 1 hit to get their item still have the unused stam points to go out and hunt for XP if they so choose.

I still think the 2,700 kills is excessive and I hope the last change to these quests we will see is to have that amount reduced. But as long as the quest XP is reflective of the time and stam required to finish it, I think this is probably the best possible solution at this point. There is no way everyone is going to be happy no matter what happens now, though.


If anything needed to be changed with this system that would be it... the lvl 100 is 2700 kills now... i think a reduction of about 2k is in order there considering all the people that can hit that thing... either that or that titan needs a LOT higher hp so that people actually have a shot at it...

#150 MaximusGR

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:48

2,700 is not an excessive number of Titan kills...You have to kill that many Fuvayus as a guild for a rune..But please have the Titans spawn in the very small maps the champions are, players will have tons of fun racing for them and they can do it fast without crazy stam expense walking around...

It will take a few thousand stamina but there is a shiny Epic waiting in the other end, keep that in mind :)

I will be looking forward to the 700 Titan if its done that way

#151 silmarilen

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:48

hcs just gave the people who only had to kill 1 titan a "win button"

#152 fs_torin

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:49

if it takes 2700x more work, increase xp award for completing the quest *2000, and it will more friendly

#153 DaleJunior

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:49

All I can say is thanks for the extra 150 damage on my Elemental Earth Hammer. And Thank God I don't have to kill the Air Titan 3600 times to have gotten it!

#154 WitHalfwit

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:49

This is by far the most unfair thing I've seen HCS do. The progression has been ridiculous: allowing so many Epics into the wild with one titan kill; binding, then unbinding the item as well as increasing the stats, which totally messes with the economy; jacking up the number of required kills for those without an itchy trigger finger; and the stats themselves are entirely unbalanced compared to other epics.

Ever heard of a focus group or beta testing, HCS? You guys seem to not understand games and what makes them fair and fun.

#155 fs_assass1n3

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:50

I just want to kill the titan, but it's not on my map.. Thanks for making it a contest and leaving people like me in a map with nothing to do but wait :(

#156 ironcire

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:50

hcs just gave the people who only had to kill 1 titan a "win button"


Everyone who now has a new Epic at a limited cost can dominate the arena and if you decide to sell it, well guess what?? HCS made it worth hundreds of FSP for your 10 minutes of time... SUPER. I thought HCS doesnt give out FREE FSP, but this is even worse.

#157 Mekrushu

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:51

2,700 is not an excessive number of Titan kills...You have to kill that many Fuvayus as a guild for a rune..But please have the Titans spawn in the very small maps the champions are, players will have tons of fun racing for them and they can do it fast without crazy stam expense walking around...

It will take a few thousand stamina but there is a shiny Epic waiting in the other end, keep that in mind :)

I will be looking forward to the 700 Titan if its done that way


As you stated "You have to kill that many Fuvayus as a guild for a rune..". This is having to SOLO it, therefore it is a ridiculous amount IMO.

#158 Calista

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:52

Everyone keeps complaining about people exploiting a glitch in the quest. Newsflash....there was no way for us to know that the quest was not turning out exactly the way it was suppose too. The quest told me to kill the titan once, and I did exactly that. How is that exploiting the quest?

 


#159 fs_fradiavolo

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:52

So much effort to have a few players recruit dozens of level 1 bogus players

and now driving away many others into inactivity or desinterest ...

#160 silmarilen

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 20:52

2,700 is not an excessive number of Titan kills...You have to kill that many Fuvayus as a guild for a rune..But please have the Titans spawn in the very small maps the champions are, players will have tons of fun racing for them and they can do it fast without crazy stam expense walking around...

It will take a few thousand stamina but there is a shiny Epic waiting in the other end, keep that in mind :)

I will be looking forward to the 700 Titan if its done that way


As you stated "You have to kill that many Fuvayus as a guild for a rune..". This is having to SOLO it, therefore it is a ridiculous amount IMO.


and alot more people are doing these quests than regular titans.


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