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Poll: Do you like this idea? (384 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you like this idea?

  1. Voted Yes (260 votes [56.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.03%

  2. Voted No (204 votes [43.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.97%

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#121 fs_ithangor

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:22

I am ignoring the poll. You are the one that made the unsupportable claim about what a "majority of players" agree with. Are you now implicitly withdrawing that claim ? And I obviously DO read the comments, so your directive that I should is ridiculously unnecessary.

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The majority of the comments are still against this change, that is what I meant by ignore the poll and read the comments.


I apologize, I am not sure what you intend by this. The comments do not represent a valid sample of the player base either, and perhaps you agree with that, in which case what the "majority" thinks carries little weight.
As to the arguments against the change in presented in those comments, I agree they point out flaws in the original proposal, but I think my proposed alterations fix those flaws.

I think what HC proposed can be tuned into a workable system. And I think that's a more productive approach than just pointing out the flaws without proposing a fix for them.


My point is that the majority of players on here, ignoring Frackers have left a comment to say that they oppose this change.

As to your other point, what is extremely frustrating is that many players (including Frackers) have posted numerous suggestions about how to make improvements to Titan hunting. At the start of this thread they said that they have read over them, which is clearly rubbish as this idea comes out of nowhere.

There are so many other suggestions all over the place and it gets really tiresome to have to repeat them all the time. That is why a lot of players have said no, without giving suggestions - the suggestions are already there.

#122 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:23

HCS, time for a comment from ye, fore this topic goes by the way of a train wreck :lol:

#123 fs_gravely

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:24

You know they're gone for the day, SD :P

#124 fs_largesack

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:24

I'd like to re-iterate, this system isn't as terrible as many people are making it out to be and would bring several ameliorations to the current system. However it is missing any type of competition, which is really upsetting.


Do you think my changes put the competition back in? Can you see how the current 5th place guild having 2501 kills, while 6th place has 2499, with an hour left to go, would lead to competition if only the top 5 got a drop ? :)

And as those two fought for 5th, they'd eventually catch up with 4th place . . . and so on ....

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I like this idea.

In my own opinion I do believe after the first week or so of this not many more guilds would participate in it. I don't know many guilds that are willing to give up that much stamina besides maybe the top 5-7 guilds.

#125 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:26

Hi all,

We've been reading the forums with regard to some of the issues with Titan Hunting and as such are looking to make some changes to the current system to improve it and also make it more fun and fairer to all guilds.

The idea we have at the moment would be to change how the Titan works in that when a Titan is released each guild will have a number of kills as before but the Titan will not despawn for a set period of time. (Lets say 6 hours) During this time period every guild will be able to compete for the Titan and each guild would have its own threshold of kills.

What I mean by that is say over 100 kills would give the guild a small RP reward, over 1500 kills would give a large RP reward and over 2500 kills would reward the epic item. Now these rewards would be irrespective to other guilds. Meaning both smaller guilds and also guilds with less Titan hunters would now be able to compete and receive the epic items.

Feedback on this is appreciated


I like it :) This would certainly mean that guilds aren't put off from trying before they even start. More affordable epics, higher participation rates. The only downside I could possibly see here is a dent in one guilds profit margin. Wait, did I just say downside? Ignore that, I can't see any downsides. :)

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#126 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:26

You know they're gone for the day, SD :P

Still another 30min of office time ;)

#127 klem70

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:29

I think they are 1 of the guests, Not signed in, so we can't bombard them :P

#128 fs_lonr

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:31

Hi all,

We've been reading the forums with regard to some of the issues with Titan Hunting and as such are looking to make some changes to the current system to improve it and also make it more fun and fairer to all guilds.

The idea we have at the moment would be to change how the Titan works in that when a Titan is released each guild will have a number of kills as before but the Titan will not despawn for a set period of time. (Lets say 6 hours) During this time period every guild will be able to compete for the Titan and each guild would have its own threshold of kills.

What I mean by that is say over 100 kills would give the guild a small RP reward, over 1500 kills would give a large RP reward and over 2500 kills would reward the epic item. Now these rewards would be irrespective to other guilds. Meaning both smaller guilds and also guilds with less Titan hunters would now be able to compete and receive the epic items.

Feedback on this is appreciated


I actually like the idea tbh.

As long as the Titan spawn time is adjusted correctly then there wont be dozens of guilds getting a drop each spawn.

FFS will still get their regular drop and other guilds can have some fun competing against themselves and the rest of their guild at their own pace for some rp.

If more drops are brought into the game because of this then yes the price will go down but come on the majority of items don't hold their price. Maybe its time for a crash in the market and then HCS can release the new batch of Epics ;)

#129 MaximusGR

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:32

I like it :) This would certainly mean that guilds aren't put off from trying before they even start. More affordable epics, higher participation rates. The only downside I could possibly see here is a dent in one guilds profit margin. Wait, did I just say downside? Ignore that, I can't see any downsides. :)


I thought cheap epics, and the lack of the need to donate to get some, is a downside?

I am probably wrong, i am sure HCS can maintain the game with buttons instead of $ :lol:

#130 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:36

HCS's income will go up not down, FFS will have to donate again instead of powerlevelling from titan profits. HCS could probably set a new profit record.. Either that or the game could go back to being balanced.. Just a thought.

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#131 Khanate

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:37


I like it :) This would certainly mean that guilds aren't put off from trying before they even start. More affordable epics, higher participation rates. The only downside I could possibly see here is a dent in one guilds profit margin. Wait, did I just say downside? Ignore that, I can't see any downsides. :)


I thought cheap epics, and the lack of the need to donate to get some, is a downside?

I am probably wrong, i am sure HCS can maintain the game with buttons instead of $ :lol:


As has been said, the number of epics entering the game can be maintained even with the implementation of the proposed changes.

#132 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:42

I think it would be interesting to se this idea posted on the FS homepage so more of the community is made aware of it tbh. As it stands now this poll is unbelievably biased..

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:46

I think it would be interesting to se this idea posted on the FS homepage so more of the community is made aware of it tbh. As it stands now this poll is unbelievably biased..


Yip, all those no votes are from FFS. Those other people not supporting the change either voted yes or didn't vote I'm betting.

#134 Dulcharn

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:46

I do appreciate the effort to give fairness to the titan hunts, so that all guilds can get the epic drops. Nonetheless, I truly believe that any guild can win it today with the current system - it just takes some organisation on the part of the guild members. The proposed system in this poll will take away the fun challenge of the hunts and it will make the Epic items less valuable. It's the wrong thing to do. Keep that thinking cap on! :)

My vote is NO

#135 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:47

I think it would be interesting to se this idea posted on the FS homepage so more of the community is made aware of it tbh. As it stands now this poll is unbelievably biased..


Yip, all those no votes are from FFS. Those other people not supporting the change either voted yes or didn't vote I'm betting.


Yeah, I'd be willing to state my fs character on the fact that 80-90% of those no votes are from FFS.

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#136 Khanate

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:49

I think it would be interesting to se this idea posted on the FS homepage so more of the community is made aware of it tbh. As it stands now this poll is unbelievably biased..


Yip, all those no votes are from FFS. Those other people not supporting the change either voted yes or didn't vote I'm betting.


I'll eat my hat if it isn't over 50% of those no votes lol

#137 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:50

I think it would be interesting to se this idea posted on the FS homepage so more of the community is made aware of it tbh. As it stands now this poll is unbelievably biased..


Yip, all those no votes are from FFS. Those other people not supporting the change either voted yes or didn't vote I'm betting.


Yeah, I'd be willing to state my fs character on the fact that 80-90% of those no votes are from FFS.


Ok, 43.... I'll do a rough count, but I dont think 43 of us have even been on the forum today, but, for the craic, I'll have a count :lol:

#138 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:52

11:29 21/Apr/2010 [Mass from MaximusGR]: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92826&start=0 <0----- The link to that topic..Please check it out and vote "NO" in it, as it competely change s the way Titan items are coming to the game, in a way that floods the market and make ours lose their value. Thank you

Interesting, so this isn't the mass message that got spread around FFS?

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#139 fs_knc

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:53

This would basically turn all titans into the epic quest titans. which means there will eventually be an uproar about how oggy gloves aren't epic enough, and they'll have the stats bumped a be bound, then bumped again and unbound.

now, 2500 kills on a titan awarding a decent item without stam/xp gain? i'd go for that.

#140 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:54

11:29 21/Apr/2010 [Mass from MaximusGR]: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92826&start=0 <0----- The link to that topic..Please check it out and vote "NO" in it, as it competely change s the way Titan items are coming to the game, in a way that floods the market and make ours lose their value. Thank you

Interesting, so this isn't the mass message that got spread around FFS?


Ya, but dosent mean that 43 of us voted... yet lol


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