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Poll: Do you like this idea? (384 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you like this idea?

  1. Voted Yes (260 votes [56.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.03%

  2. Voted No (204 votes [43.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.97%

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#141 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:55

11:29 21/Apr/2010 [Mass from MaximusGR]: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92826&start=0 <0----- The link to that topic..Please check it out and vote "NO" in it, as it competely change s the way Titan items are coming to the game, in a way that floods the market and make ours lose their value. Thank you

Interesting, so this isn't the mass message that got spread around FFS?


Ya, but dosent mean that 43 of us voted... yet lol


Just, don't even try SD. You guys are so busted. VERY lame.

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#142 Khanate

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:56

This would basically turn all titans into the epic quest titans. which means there will eventually be an uproar about how oggy gloves aren't epic enough, and they'll have the stats bumped a be bound, then bumped again and unbound.

now, 2500 kills on a titan awarding a decent item without stam/xp gain? i'd go for that.


Yeah, let's do some speculations that are completly out of touch with reality!

#143 fs_dikkedwerg

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:56

I think it would be interesting to se this idea posted on the FS homepage so more of the community is made aware of it tbh. As it stands now this poll is unbelievably biased..


Yip, all those no votes are from FFS. Those other people not supporting the change either voted yes or didn't vote I'm betting.


I'll eat my hat if it isn't over 50% of those no votes lol



Just to quote somewhere...but what value has a poll when the total votes don't even reach
the 100? 100 votes say nothing, no matter what...FFS as a guild is already bigger :?

#144 Khanate

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:57

The poll in itself has no value. But SD17 made some funny claims.

#145 SgtDrunkie

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:58

11:29 21/Apr/2010 [Mass from MaximusGR]: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92826&start=0 <0----- The link to that topic..Please check it out and vote "NO" in it, as it competely change s the way Titan items are coming to the game, in a way that floods the market and make ours lose their value. Thank you

Interesting, so this isn't the mass message that got spread around FFS?


Ya, but dosent mean that 43 of us voted... yet lol


Just, don't even try SD. You guys are so busted. VERY lame.


/me holds hands up for a slap
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Regardless, the poll counts for little, what do you say to the arguments presented by guildmates AND others?

#146 fs_knc

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 15:59

This would basically turn all titans into the epic quest titans. which means there will eventually be an uproar about how oggy gloves aren't epic enough, and they'll have the stats bumped a be bound, then bumped again and unbound.

now, 2500 kills on a titan awarding a decent item without stam/xp gain? i'd go for that.


Yeah, let's do some speculations that are completly out of touch with reality!


minus the part about the uproar, it's pretty accurate.

most people should be able to get 2500 kills solo in 6 hours.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:02

I do appreciate the effort to give fairness to the titan hunts, so that all guilds can get the epic drops. Nonetheless, I truly believe that any guild can win it today with the current system - it just takes some organisation on the part of the guild members. The proposed system in this poll will take away the fun challenge of the hunts and it will make the Epic items less valuable. It's the wrong thing to do. Keep that thinking cap on! :)

My vote is NO


comments like this are why people dont like you guys


you guys (only speaking to a few people, most of FFS is more realistic) need to stop spewing garbage about how "anyone can win".

I have been on guild where we were very well organized, i would argue as much, if not better then you guys

the fact is, it favors a group of people with tons of disposable stam, and high numbers.

although i think this is a bad solution, when i see posts like yours, i want to vote yes just to screw you guys over.

#148 Mister Doom

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:02

I have heard from SOOO many people in and out of FFS that going up against them head to head is suicide. FFS have been recruiting the top titan hunters for a long time now, hell one of the requirements in your applications is proximity to the servers.. :S Competition against the clock is the only way any other guild is ever going to see a titan drop and you very wel know it. Now the time limit should be very restricting but not impossible. I'm just curious to see the real lengths that FF will go to to protect their market. Snagging more kills than needed for a drop would ensure the prices for epics remain high but would hurt the stam reserves. Lets see..

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#149 DaleJunior

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:09

I do appreciate the effort to give fairness to the titan hunts, so that all guilds can get the epic drops. Nonetheless, I truly believe that any guild can win it today with the current system - it just takes some organisation on the part of the guild members. The proposed system in this poll will take away the fun challenge of the hunts and it will make the Epic items less valuable. It's the wrong thing to do. Keep that thinking cap on! :)

My vote is NO


Aww, c'mon Dulcharn....you and I both know that if your guild wants to win a titan, under the current system, it will win. You simply have the numbers, manpower and resources to do so. :D

I've read through the entire thread now, and seen lots of ideas. When I saw the poll I immediately (and selfishly) voted yes and thought "Hell yeah, now I can finally get my titan epics cheaper". But after reading through the whole thread I can see that this idea really won't work in the long run. It will result in far too many epics being introduced into the game more quickly, and as many people have pointed out this is not a good idea.

I like a couple of the ideas I've heard here, but I"m not as good with the quoting thing so I won't do that. MaximusGR seems to have some of the best ideas I've seen so far with his ideas to eliminate titan RP points and use another series of TK points and different components to invent other items. I also like the one about having more spawns on one particular square.

Someone mentioned having inventable titan epics... what if the current system was kept the same, to where the winning guild gets the drop, but 2-5th place each got a small piece of the titan epic that they could later use to invent it with. But it wouldn't be a specific piece, it would be a resource that would need to be extracted into a component, and you would need, say 5 or 6 different components to create the Oggy gloves, for example, with possibility of failure. Completely eliminate RP's awarded from titans and award 2-5th place all the same item, something like "Ogalith Glove Essence" or something.

Then you could have 6 Possible components that could be extracted. One would be "Ogalith Finger", "Ogalith Thumb", etc., etc., etc., Brighter and more creative minds than mine could come up with the final names and components. The point being that you would need to obtain and extract all 6(or however many were decided) items in order to create the epic item. This wouldn't be easy. First of all, it would take a minimum of 6 Ogalith spawns for a guild to get the required components and that's only IF they extracted the 6 different items. They might extract 3 thumbs in a row and therefore not be able to make the epic item until they had them all. This would not be such an easy task and would not flood the system with epics. However, it would give guilds other than just the one big one a chance over time to obtain the epic in this way.

I don't know if this kind of thing would work at all, but if it removed RP points from titan kills and left them with GvG but still gave smaller guilds an opportunity with hard work to obtain the titan item, I don't see how bad that could be. By the way, if I could change my vote on this subject I would change it to "no".

#150 Dulcharn

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:10

I do appreciate the effort to give fairness to the titan hunts, so that all guilds can get the epic drops. Nonetheless, I truly believe that any guild can win it today with the current system - it just takes some organisation on the part of the guild members. The proposed system in this poll will take away the fun challenge of the hunts and it will make the Epic items less valuable. It's the wrong thing to do. Keep that thinking cap on! :)

My vote is NO


comments like this are why people dont like you guys


you guys (only speaking to a few people, most of FFS is more realistic) need to stop spewing garbage about how "anyone can win".

I have been on guild where we were very well organized, i would argue as much, if not better then you guys

the fact is, it favors a group of people with tons of disposable stam, and high numbers.

although i think this is a bad solution, when i see posts like yours, i want to vote yes just to screw you guys over.



Phyr, I didn't mean to do any harm. I'm sorry if you feel differently, but I'll give you any advice on titan hunting, if you wish. How to win titan is no secret. Have you had any experience? pm me in game if you have any questions. Have a nice day.

#151 Khanate

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:12

This would basically turn all titans into the epic quest titans. which means there will eventually be an uproar about how oggy gloves aren't epic enough, and they'll have the stats bumped a be bound, then bumped again and unbound.

now, 2500 kills on a titan awarding a decent item without stam/xp gain? i'd go for that.


Yeah, let's do some speculations that are completly out of touch with reality!


minus the part about the uproar, it's pretty accurate.

most people should be able to get 2500 kills solo in 6 hours.


Okay, where to begin
- Epic quest titans are primarily solo efforts
- Epic quest titans reward RP and not Epic items
- No one claimed that the EQT epics weren't epic enough, they were bumped anyways
- No one has any reason EVER to claim oggy gloves aren't epic enough
- HCS will never bump their stats
- HCS won't bound them, they have seen that it was a bad idea with epic quest titans
- Stats won't be bumped a second time
- They weren't bound so they won't be de-bounded

The whole statement is an exageration of speculations

#152 Dulcharn

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:16

I do appreciate the effort to give fairness to the titan hunts, so that all guilds can get the epic drops. Nonetheless, I truly believe that any guild can win it today with the current system - it just takes some organisation on the part of the guild members. The proposed system in this poll will take away the fun challenge of the hunts and it will make the Epic items less valuable. It's the wrong thing to do. Keep that thinking cap on! :)

My vote is NO


Aww, c'mon Dulcharn....you and I both know that if your guild wants to win a titan, under the current system, it will win. You simply have the numbers, manpower and resources to do so. :D


It's true, our guild is very active. You should join the titan hunts, Dale ;)

#153 jinks

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:16

In my opinion this is an awful idea.

There are many much better ideas on the forum, this is one of the worst I have heard.

The competition will be gone completely and each titan could give 10 epics per spawn, how does that make them epic?

Admittedly FFS are unbeatable, whatever anyone says, they have more active players willing to drop everything and hunt titans than any other guild.

Having a limit to the players able to hunt each titan is a better idea to level the playing field, but we need to keep the competition in it...this is a WIN button for everyone...Titan Epic items for 25fsp anyone?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:18

Yes please Jinks. I'll buy for 25 FSP :P

#155 fs_phyrstormz

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:18

Phyr, I didn't mean to do any harm. I'm sorry if you feel differently, but I'll give you any advice on titan hunting, if you wish. How to win titan is no secret. Have you had any experience? pm me in game if you have any questions. Have a nice day.



advice.. you make me laugh....


no offense, but im pretty sure one on one, i can hunt as well or better then most in the game, and most in FFS

the problem is, most guild have 5 people like me, not 50 like you guys

stop being so naive

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:20

I like a couple of the ideas I've heard here, but I"m not as good with the quoting thing so I won't do that. MaximusGR seems to have some of the best ideas I've seen so far with his ideas to eliminate titan RP points and use another series of TK points and different components to invent other items. I also like the one about having more spawns on one particular square.

Someone mentioned having inventable titan epics... what if the current system was kept the same, to where the winning guild gets the drop, but 2-5th place each got a small piece of the titan epic that they could later use to invent it with. But it wouldn't be a specific piece, it would be a resource that would need to be extracted into a component, and you would need, say 5 or 6 different components to create the Oggy gloves, for example, with possibility of failure. Completely eliminate RP's awarded from titans and award 2-5th place all the same item, something like "Ogalith Glove Essence" or something.

Then you could have 6 Possible components that could be extracted. One would be "Ogalith Finger", "Ogalith Thumb", etc., etc., etc., Brighter and more creative minds than mine could come up with the final names and components. The point being that you would need to obtain and extract all 6(or however many were decided) items in order to create the epic item. This wouldn't be easy. First of all, it would take a minimum of 6 Ogalith spawns for a guild to get the required components and that's only IF they extracted the 6 different items. They might extract 3 thumbs in a row and therefore not be able to make the epic item until they had them all. This would not be such an easy task and would not flood the system with epics. However, it would give guilds other than just the one big one a chance over time to obtain the epic in this way.

I don't know if this kind of thing would work at all, but if it removed RP points from titan kills and left them with GvG but still gave smaller guilds an opportunity with hard work to obtain the titan item, I don't see how bad that could be. By the way, if I could change my vote on this subject I would change it to "no".


Seems like a decent idea to me, make it so everyone can get them, but they have to work hard to do it.

#157 DaleJunior

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:21

I do appreciate the effort to give fairness to the titan hunts, so that all guilds can get the epic drops. Nonetheless, I truly believe that any guild can win it today with the current system - it just takes some organisation on the part of the guild members. The proposed system in this poll will take away the fun challenge of the hunts and it will make the Epic items less valuable. It's the wrong thing to do. Keep that thinking cap on! :)

My vote is NO


Aww, c'mon Dulcharn....you and I both know that if your guild wants to win a titan, under the current system, it will win. You simply have the numbers, manpower and resources to do so. :D


It's true, our guild is very active. You should join the titan hunts, Dale ;)


I used to join them. Truth is my computer is old and my internet connection is not the best. I simply can't keep up with the other best titan hunters out there, no matter how much coaching I get from others who know what they're doing. My computer just won't handle it. But I have competed in the past when we had players in our guild who cared about titan hunting and we have even won before, but that was a long time ago. I think things are different now.

#158 fs_knc

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:21

Okay, where to begin
- Epic quest titans are primarily solo efforts
- Epic quest titans reward RP and not Epic items
- No one claimed that the EQT epics weren't epic enough, they were bumped anyways
- No one has any reason EVER to claim oggy gloves aren't epic enough
- HCS will never bump their stats
- HCS won't bound them, they have seen that it was a bad idea with epic quest titans
- Stats won't be bumped a second time
- They weren't bound so they won't be de-bounded

The whole statement is an exageration of speculations


missing the point:

-True, but it's the same killthisXnumberoftimesandgetanEPIC!! system.
-quest titans reward epics (quest) and RP, just like all other titans. except you can get 8-12 epics brought into the game by one epic titan.
-Actually they did, which is why they were bumped.
-joke
-joke
-joke

#159 fs_knc

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:22




Phyr, I didn't mean to do any harm. I'm sorry if you feel differently, but I'll give you any advice on titan hunting, if you wish. How to win titan is no secret. Have you had any experience? pm me in game if you have any questions. Have a nice day.



advice.. you make me laugh....


no offense, but im pretty sure one on one, i can hunt as well or better then most in the game, and most in FFS

the problem is, most guild have 5 people like me, not 50 like you guys

stop being so naive


There you go. We're not better than everybody else. We just want it more.

#160 Khanate

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 16:23



Okay, where to begin
- Epic quest titans are primarily solo efforts
- Epic quest titans reward RP and not Epic items
- No one claimed that the EQT epics weren't epic enough, they were bumped anyways
- No one has any reason EVER to claim oggy gloves aren't epic enough
- HCS will never bump their stats
- HCS won't bound them, they have seen that it was a bad idea with epic quest titans
- Stats won't be bumped a second time
- They weren't bound so they won't be de-bounded

The whole statement is an exageration of speculations


missing the point:

-True, but it's the same killthisXnumberoftimesandgetanEPIC!! system.
-quest titans reward epics (quest) and RP, just like all other titans. except you can get 8-12 epics brought into the game by one epic titan.
-Actually they did, which is why they were bumped.
-joke
-joke
-joke


If you are joking, then don't go and claim that it wasn't purely speculations.


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