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#481 Mister Doom

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:18



Ok... but they can still work then no? And I think I can honestly say, I've never seen a scripter,, in a long time anyway lol


Eh, perhaps not. I bet you've seen your fair share of people running around with the titan URL on a 0 second auto refresh on a seperate tab though.. lol


Thats a script? I thought auto refresh was allowed? if its not you might as well ban all titan hunters coz im sure everyone has their map on auto lol


Nah, I didn't say it was a script? It is a rather underhand method of titan hunting though. One that the 2 second delay eradicates WITHOUT having to resort to banning all AR users ;)

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:20

Please forgive my ignorance, but how is a 2 sec delay any harder on scripting than a 1sec delay. Isn't the only difference a single parameter, the amount of time to delay?


It doesn't stop it happening, it merely reduces the effects. ie. making it fairer.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:21

I dont see how it eradicates it, if your computer can handle it it the same as multiclicking, in fact it might actually save you from repetitive strain injury :lol:

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:22

I dont see how it eradicates it, if your computer can handle it it the same as multiclicking, in fact it might actually save you from repetitive strain injury :lol:


Refer to the post above yours :D

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:23

I dont see how it eradicates it, if your computer can handle it it the same as multiclicking, in fact it might actually save you from repetitive strain injury :lol:


Eradicates the effects? Like players simply using their reflexes for walking around and instantly clearing squares of their stacks of titans? You know damn well that this used to happen so stop playing silly buggers!! :P

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:26



Ok... but they can still work then no? And I think I can honestly say, I've never seen a scripter,, in a long time anyway lol


Eh, perhaps not. I bet you've seen your fair share of people running around with the titan URL on a 0 second auto refresh on a seperate tab though.. lol


Thats a script? I thought auto refresh was allowed? if its not you might as well ban all titan hunters coz im sure everyone has their map on auto lol


Auto refresh is allowed...on the map, not on the Titan kill link, and the longer the delay between kills, the less advantage people using this have.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:28

ok grim, lets say you wont change the 2 second delay ( but i do hope you change it to 1 second ). can you increase the skills/potions time too since we need them for colossus/tsuki/fuvayu and even skaldir?

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:29

Auto refresh is allowed...on the map, not on the Titan kill link, and the longer the delay between kills, the less advantage people using this have.


Has it ever been categorically said by HCS that using autoreload on the URL is against the rules?

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:30

ok grim, lets say you wont change the 2 second delay ( but i do hope you change it to 1 second ). can you increase the skills/potions time too since we need them for colossus/tsuki/fuvayu and even skaldir?


Stop being such a cheapskate fella!! :shock: If you want to carry on hunting just rebuff/drink some more potions :P

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:30



Auto refresh is allowed...on the map, not on the Titan kill link, and the longer the delay between kills, the less advantage people using this have.


Has it ever been categorically said by HCS that using autoreload on the URL is against the rules?


I actually think it has at some point tbh..

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:31

what scripters for 1 second? if they can't press a damn button or can't use millergusy's technique, then sorry mate, they are DUMB AND LAZY. i am using scrip, FSH, only for AH bulk, other then that, pure muscle, just like FS is. ha, scripters for 1 second kill, move your ass and hunt fair, lazy kids.


Heh, yes. However, not everyone thinks that way and we have to take measures to ensure things stay fair.


Who is scripting then? Why are they not banned if there are actually scripters out there?

#492 acvila

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:31

ok grim, lets say you wont change the 2 second delay ( but i do hope you change it to 1 second ). can you increase the skills/potions time too since we need them for colossus/tsuki/fuvayu and even skaldir?


Stop being such a cheapskate fella!! :shock: If you want to carry on hunting just rebuff/drink some more potions :P


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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:31



Auto refresh is allowed...on the map, not on the Titan kill link, and the longer the delay between kills, the less advantage people using this have.


Has it ever been categorically said by HCS that using autoreload on the URL is against the rules?


Yes, because its automation, isn't it? you aren't clicking no buttons yourself to kill the Titan, you are just stepping on the square, and it was insta-killing all the Titan spawns at once (when there was no delay)

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:33

ok grim, lets say you wont change the 2 second delay ( but i do hope you change it to 1 second ). can you increase the skills/potions time too since we need them for colossus/tsuki/fuvayu and even skaldir?


Stop being such a cheapskate fella!! :shock: If you want to carry on hunting just rebuff/drink some more potions :P


is not just about me


I know, I was teasing you?? My statement applies to everyone though. The potions are fine as they are, hell some of them last wayyy too long already if you ask me. Noone forces anyone to hunt for prolonged periods. Infact your GP would actually even advise you against it. 8)

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:37



Auto refresh is allowed...on the map, not on the Titan kill link, and the longer the delay between kills, the less advantage people using this have.


Has it ever been categorically said by HCS that using autoreload on the URL is against the rules?


Yes, because its automation, isn't it? you aren't clicking no buttons yourself to kill the Titan, you are just stepping on the square, and it was insta-killing all the Titan spawns at once (when there was no delay)

It kills one per load surely? depending on your connection I guess it would seem as instant.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:39

It kills one per load surely? depending on your connection I guess it would seem as instant.


On a zero second refresh with a good connection this would be VERY fast. It obviously also takes away the few milliseconds of reaction between getting to the square and actually killing the titan..

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:41




Yes, because its automation, isn't it? you aren't clicking no buttons yourself to kill the Titan, you are just stepping on the square, and it was insta-killing all the Titan spawns at once (when there was no delay)

It kills one per load surely? depending on your connection I guess it would seem as instant.


Yeah, but if you have say 8 tabs open, all with the kill link on auto refreshing, you step on the Titan - bang...8 instant deaths before they changed it

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:45




Yes, because its automation, isn't it? you aren't clicking no buttons yourself to kill the Titan, you are just stepping on the square, and it was insta-killing all the Titan spawns at once (when there was no delay)

It kills one per load surely? depending on your connection I guess it would seem as instant.


Yeah, but if you have say 8 tabs open, all with the kill link on auto refreshing, you step on the Titan - bang...8 instant deaths before they changed it


Then why dont they make Titans show up as LE creatures used to? Each with their own kill link?
The only way you can automate killing that kind of creatures is a script similar to FSHelper that will stall your page loads enough to be useless ;)

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:45


It kills one per load surely? depending on your connection I guess it would seem as instant.


On a zero second refresh with a good connection this would be VERY fast. It obviously also takes away the few milliseconds of reaction between getting to the square and actually killing the titan..

Ok, I see its advantage now.. but how would HCS know whos using it and whos just mashing the attack button? So I don't see how they can make it a bannable offence.

Yeah, but if you have say 8 tabs open, all with the kill link on auto refreshing, you step on the Titan - bang...8 instant deaths before they changed it

I dunno bout you but my laptop slows to a crawl if I open 8 taps at once never mind have them constantly refreshing. I guess someone on a really high spec PC could do it though.

#500 Leos3000

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:45

The 1 second delay is a tad too short. It opened the door to Scripters again. We changed it to 2 seconds as we believe this is fair and keeps all connection speed on a level playing field.


there was no issue with scripting...Hoof saw a few people say 2 seconds and went with it...1 second made it pretty close to the old days with a fun pace, but still let the titan sit for a bit for others to get kills, 2 and 3 seconds essentially drag on the hunt. Especially for a colossus or tsuki where there are very few hunters and often its 1 person sitting there waiting 2 seconds or more to get each kill. Not to mention the higher the delay the more map a faster person can cover.

I have done all 3 systems 0, 3, 1. I can get about 1000 kills a titan in each system, the difference is the 1 with the delay is hardly fun, 1 brought some thrill of running to the titan 1st and trying to get kills before it was gone. A game should be about challenges to overcome, not win keys to allow anyone with 1/2 a brain to do well.

I'll just say its a lot more challenging and fun when you know you have to be attentive and if you miss click 1 time on the way to the titan you may miss the kills.

Most of the people who hunt all the time would agree...but probably not the people who just come on here hunt once and complain they didnt win or do well their 1st try.


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